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Player Watch: Kieran Trippier

nickspurs

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Really? I think his best games have come against the better teams. What you mean is against teams with a very quick LF/LW. but then every full back will struggle against them. Definitely suits him better as a WB though(as it does Rose) so lets see if we change it up to suit them both this season.
I’m fascinated by this decision this season. While I’m sure Poch will have some tactical flex depending on the opponent, it will be a case of 1) I have a firm philosophy of not deploying WBs so will flex the players’ coaching accordingly or 2) I have some naturally very strong WBs and should play to their strengths. Of course it’s more nuanced than that in practice but that’s a big one for Poch IMHO.
 

coys200

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I’m probably being to logical here. But if his best attributes are creativity touch vision and passing and his weakest are defending 1 on 1 pace and getting out jumped at far post. Wouldn’t he be better suited in midfield. Effectively that’s what he was for England hence the Beckham comparisons in the media. And if not can someone logically explain to me why ? It seemed to work for Lahm.
 

Trix

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Put it this way, when he has to defend I'm never overwhelmingly confident. Both in terms of his decision making and his physical attributes to make up for positional problems (like Walker can do - mopping up his own mistakes because he's faster and stronger than most guys out there).

That's not to say he's a bad defender. Not at all. Just a limited one.

If he's contributing with the ball, then it doesn't matter. Or if he's against poor opposition. Most of the teams he faced in the WC are well below PL and CL levels and he thrived. But honestly, most people were (correct me if I'm wrong) quite down on his season last year - I think that is a better indicator of next season than the WC.

BUT - if he is going to share set piece duty and we really take that seriously, he could be a very valuable weapon for us. Someone you'd want on the field even if they aren't haven't a great game (sort of like Dele I suppose).

I'm hoping we see WC Trippier this season. I'm just not sure we will, but I'm curious to find out.
He should 100% be taking all the corners and free kicks from the right hand side central and left is up for debate afaiac.
 

TropicalYid

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Trippier had such and impressive WC. I think he will have a great season for us.
Serge should prepare for playing second fiddle.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Put it this way, when he has to defend I'm never overwhelmingly confident. Both in terms of his decision making and his physical attributes to make up for positional problems (like Walker can do - mopping up his own mistakes because he's faster and stronger than most guys out there).

That's not to say he's a bad defender. Not at all. Just a limited one.

If he's contributing with the ball, then it doesn't matter. Or if he's against poor opposition. Most of the teams he faced in the WC are well below PL and CL levels and he thrived. But honestly, most people were (correct me if I'm wrong) quite down on his season last year - I think that is a better indicator of next season than the WC.

BUT - if he is going to share set piece duty and we really take that seriously, he could be a very valuable weapon for us. Someone you'd want on the field even if they aren't haven't a great game (sort of like Dele I suppose).

I'm hoping we see WC Trippier this season. I'm just not sure we will, but I'm curious to find out.

You’ve already seen the WC Trippier. The one that outperforms Walker offensively, massively, and not just his crossing, but his intelligent passing, key passing and pre assist passing. The one that was the most productive RB in the PL per minute on the pitch two years running.

Here is the per 90 metrics for the top creative FB's (not just RB's) in the PL last season:

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The stuff about him being a liability in big games is also a bit of a misnomer. Trippier started our wins over Liverpool, Real Madrid, ManU, Arsenal & Chelsea away (just about all of our big game wins). I'm hard pushed to remember a game where Trippier's defending actually cost us much. That doesn't mean I think he's wonderful defensively, I just don't think it's much of an issue, and I don't think there's much in it between him and most other RB's in this league. He's not lightning quick, but he's not slow, he's not physically imposing but he's quite tenacious, intelligent and rarely does stupid shit.

And the thing is, for all Walker's superior pace and physicality - which did help him for sure - it's not like he never cost us goals is it? He played in plenty of games where he got skanked by the likes of Bolasie, Zaha, Lanzini and games where he just did stupid shit, the likes of which Trippier never does. He played in games where we got tonked by big teams.

I think Trippier had one game, verses City away where playing him in a back 4, in a high press system against Guardiola's system with Sane on the left, where he got exposed, but that was tactically piss poor from Pochettino, in the home game, although we lost, Trippier was fine, and Sane had a quiet game and ended up being subbed. And Walker had a torrid time at City a couple of year back when we got beat 5-1.
 

mano-obe

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There was a time when you fancied Eriksen to score every freekick but not had that feeling for a while now. Tripps to takeover from now on? What a superb freekick yesterday
 

allatsea

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So many poor crosses against Fulham despite being out on his own without a Fulham player near him. But a brilliant free kick.
 

chinaman

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Without Son, nobody was attacking the near post where Trippier's crosses are most effective. Also, Delli was playing too deep and was not attacking the far post as often as last year. Trippier had no one to aim for and just put in hopeful ones.
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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Spurs are a much lesser side without Trippier in it. I don't know what some were expecting for a first game back. He was bollocksed end of the wc. Even at half mast Trippier is way ahead of any competition he has for that position. He scored and I seem to recall set 1 up yesterday. No defending horror shows. A certain other player makes me sweat when I see him on the sheet almost as much as when I saw Doherty on the list.
 

Ironskullll

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That free kick seemed to stay very flat and come down quickly. Based on that, I reckon he’ll be deadly from much closer in as well.
 

eViL

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So many poor crosses against Fulham despite being out on his own without a Fulham player near him. But a brilliant free kick.

I'm not sure I agree wholly with this - I think there's a lack of physical prowess in the box, particularly at the front post which makes the crosses look a lot more wayward than they actually are.

Kane's game has evolved from being a physical bully to anticipating errors in and around the area for his goal chances. He was on the back post for every single one of Trippier's crosses; that means every ball has to make it past 2 CBs AND the goalkeeper to get a chance on goal.

You've only got to look at Brighton v United yesterday to see what real attacking physicality can do in the 18 yard box.

Why aren't we more ruthless in front of goal? It's not rocket science.

If you also look at our midfield and defence at the moment; we are generally shit in the air lately - I'm not sure how much it's being coached but we lose an awful lot of aerial duels and it's been costing us a lot of goals.
 

Sophos151

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Kane's game has evolved from being a physical bully to anticipating errors in and around the area for his goal chances. He was on the back post for every single one of Trippier's crosses; that means every ball has to make it past 2 CBs AND the goalkeeper to get a chance on goal.

This is what annoyed me - why is Kane attacking the back post when that's Dele's speciality, and Trippier is putting great balls in at the near post?
 
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