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Player Watch: Kieran Trippier

SUIYHA

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I see the cult of KWP are out in force tonight :ROFLMAO:

This year's Jonathan Blondel / Jamie Slabber / Rohan Ricketts / Adel Taraabt / Zeki Fryers / Marcus Edwards - a young player that people only seem to think is good because they haven't had enough game time to play worse than the established first teamer getting picked in their position. I remember a teenage Phillip Ifil playing well at RB in a 1-1 draw against Liverpool and then a 1-0 win away at Newcastle back when they were good under Bobby Robson. Think he got released by a non-league club a few years later...

Given Poch's record of fast-tracking talented youngsters I'd be highly doubtful of KWP being what some of you think he is. Happy to give him a chance to see what he can do but he'd have likely been a rabbit in the headlights if thrown in at the deep end last night. And that kind of baptism of fire can destroy young players with fragile confidence.

Back on topic - Trippier is badly out of form and I can't think of many big teams who play with RBs as slow as he is. He needs someone fast to play alongside him as part of a back three (eg - Walker for England) to make it work. Though I do find it funny how many people who after the Newcastle game immediately declared Aurier as not fit for purpose and that Trippier had to be first choice are now saying the exact opposite.
 

Tucker

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This year's Jonathan Blondel / Jamie Slabber / Rohan Ricketts / Adel Taraabt / Zeki Fryers / Marcus Edwards - a young player that people only seem to think is good because they haven't had enough game time to play worse than the established first teamer getting picked in their position. I remember a teenage Phillip Ifil playing well at RB in a 1-1 draw against Liverpool and then a 1-0 win away at Newcastle back when they were good under Bobby Robson. Think he got released by a non-league club a few years later...

Given Poch's record of fast-tracking talented youngsters I'd be highly doubtful of KWP being what some of you think he is. Happy to give him a chance to see what he can do but he'd have likely been a rabbit in the headlights if thrown in at the deep end last night. And that kind of baptism of fire can destroy young players with fragile confidence.

Back on topic - Trippier is badly out of form and I can't think of many big teams who play with RBs as slow as he is. He needs someone fast to play alongside him as part of a back three (eg - Walker for England) to make it work. Though I do find it funny how many people who after the Newcastle game immediately declared Aurier as not fit for purpose and that Trippier had to be first choice are now saying the exact opposite.

Yup, which is why Poch stuck Sanchez on the right of defence last night eventually. Trippier works better with a back three imo. He’s not world class, but he’s nowhere near as bad as many on here are saying. Same with Davies.
 

JCRD

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Yup, which is why Poch stuck Sanchez on the right of defence last night eventually. Trippier works better with a back three imo. He’s not world class, but he’s nowhere near as bad as many on here are saying. Same with Davies.

He is fucking shit but lets side step that issue for a moment. Teams are targeting him because he is clearly the weak link, Davies is also a bit shit but he is competent defensively... it is no coincidence that Barca, Liverscum, Man Shitty have all targeted Trippier.
 

ajspurs

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I actually like Trippier and think he's been one of our better attacking outlets for large parts of the season so far. I like how he's a tidy passer and can pass himself out of tight spaces on that right hand side or play that little clipped ball down the line to whoever is running on to it. Unfortunately the defensive side is not up to scratch enough and he can really get caught out and attackers can get past him with too much ease at times.

I think he still has a place in the squad, without a doubt and against lesser teams we can more often than not get away without the added defensive protection and even sometimes against the bigger sides, that also can't be ignored. But I would rather have a fullback who can defend well first and foremost.
 

wrd

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Yup, which is why Poch stuck Sanchez on the right of defence last night eventually. Trippier works better with a back three imo. He’s not world class, but he’s nowhere near as bad as many on here are saying. Same with Davies.

I agree Trippier is an entirely different player when its 3-5-2 but I think what pisses people off is that in 18 months we have gone from the by far best fullback pair in england to arguably the worst in the top6.
 

Paolo10

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I agree completely I didn’t said I liked Davies.
Well those days are over. We sold the best RB in the league and the LB lost his shit and probably that amazing career he could have had if he’d continued like that.

Lol@best RB in the league for the fucking MILLIONTH TIME.
 

spurs9

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This year's Jonathan Blondel / Jamie Slabber / Rohan Ricketts / Adel Taraabt / Zeki Fryers / Marcus Edwards - a young player that people only seem to think is good because they haven't had enough game time to play worse than the established first teamer getting picked in their position. I remember a teenage Phillip Ifil playing well at RB in a 1-1 draw against Liverpool and then a 1-0 win away at Newcastle back when they were good under Bobby Robson. Think he got released by a non-league club a few years later...

Given Poch's record of fast-tracking talented youngsters I'd be highly doubtful of KWP being what some of you think he is. Happy to give him a chance to see what he can do but he'd have likely been a rabbit in the headlights if thrown in at the deep end last night. And that kind of baptism of fire can destroy young players with fragile confidence.

Back on topic - Trippier is badly out of form and I can't think of many big teams who play with RBs as slow as he is. He needs someone fast to play alongside him as part of a back three (eg - Walker for England) to make it work. Though I do find it funny how many people who after the Newcastle game immediately declared Aurier as not fit for purpose and that Trippier had to be first choice are now saying the exact opposite.
There’s the mythical reputation right there. He’s an unproven youngster who’s done ok when called upon against lesser opposition. Trippier is an international with tonnes of PL experience. Yet there’s plenty of comments in this thread and others claiming KWP should be starting ahead of Tripps. It’s complete fantasy to think that would end well against Man City.

Should KWP start in the league cup against the spammers? Sure why not. But anyone who thinks he’d have done any better than Trippier last night is deluded.
KWP has started 2 games at RB in the PL, got MOTM in both games and got 2 assists, do you honestly think Trippier and Aurier have been doing enough to prevent KWP getting further PL starts to prove himself?
 

bc205

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He is fucking shit but lets side step that issue for a moment. Teams are targeting him because he is clearly the weak link, Davies is also a bit shit but he is competent defensively... it is no coincidence that Barca, Liverscum, Man Shitty have all targeted Trippier.

Trippier certainly has his weaknesses, and it's fair to say he has been in poor form this season. But trying to argue that he is "fucking shit" is just plain stupid. I don't understand how any fan who has seen the number of good performances he has put in for Spurs and England can spout such nonsense. He is a limited full back, that is true, and not top class, but he is also quite clearly not "fucking shit".

But now that Sissoko, Lamela and Winks are playing well i guess we have to find some new scapegoats...
 

TEESSIDE1

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Trippier certainly has his weaknesses, and it's fair to say he has been in poor form this season. But trying to argue that he is "fucking shit" is just plain stupid. I don't understand how any fan who has seen the number of good performances he has put in for Spurs and England can spout such nonsense. He is a limited full back, that is true, and not top class, but he is also quite clearly not "fucking shit".

But now that Sissoko, Lamela and Winks are playing well i guess we have to find some new scapegoats...

To be a successful full back you need to either and/or:

Quick
Strong
Positionally aware

Trippier is none of these... runs in treacle, very weak and doesn’t have a clue where the ball, he and/or the opposition is half the time. He’s just nowhere near the standard needed for a top 4/6 side. He’s a weak link and is targeted by every man and his dog.
 

JCRD

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Trippier certainly has his weaknesses, and it's fair to say he has been in poor form this season. But trying to argue that he is "fucking shit" is just plain stupid. I don't understand how any fan who has seen the number of good performances he has put in for Spurs and England can spout such nonsense. He is a limited full back, that is true, and not top class, but he is also quite clearly not "fucking shit".

But now that Sissoko, Lamela and Winks are playing well i guess we have to find some new scapegoats...

I have never called anyone fucking shit but he is an exception... And I mean defensively so I should have made that clear. His attacking play is ok at best and yes he has an excellent cross and a half decent chip down the line and his finger pointing is exceptional.

My main gripe is he is extremely fucking shit defensively. That's not an exaggeration. Every team will target him as the weak link and have done so this season. Again, his defending which is a core part of his job is fucking shit.

Against man city, not only was it shit defending but he had the audacity to then look at Hugo like he was at fault.
 

bc205

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He’s just nowhere near the standard needed for a top 4/6 side.

Rubbish. He has limitations, and is in poor form at the moment, but it is ridiculous how some people are suddenly trying to ignore the number of good performances he has put in for us (a top 4 side) over the past 2 seasons. Not to mention him being one of the best players for an England side that reached the semi finals of a World Cup.

My main gripe is he is extremely fucking shit defensively. That's not an exaggeration. Every team will target him as the weak link and have done so this season. Again, his defending which is a core part of his job is fucking shit.

That is a complete exaggeration. He is not "extremely fucking shit" defensively. He is in poor form and has limitations to his game. There is a big difference between the two.


If people want to say that he is not a top defender fair enough. If you want to argue that he is not suited to a 4 man defence, or that he can't handle pace, then fair enough. If you want to argue that he shouldn't be playing at the moment due to poor form, then fair enough.

But can we please stop the ridiculous exaggerations and over the top attacks on a Spurs player who has made valuable contributions to the team over the past 2 seasons. Can we support a player, or at the very least use some proportionate/constructive criticism, rather than start scapegoating and attacking him.
 

fortworthspur

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that was a diabolical bit of play to concede the goal when he fucked up badly not once but twice. no point in sugarcoating it.
 

JCRD

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Rubbish. He has limitations, and is in poor form at the moment, but it is ridiculous how some people are suddenly trying to ignore the number of good performances he has put in for us (a top 4 side) over the past 2 seasons. Not to mention him being one of the best players for an England side that reached the semi finals of a World Cup.



That is a complete exaggeration. He is not "extremely fucking shit" defensively. He is in poor form and has limitations to his game. There is a big difference between the two.


If people want to say that he is not a top defender fair enough. If you want to argue that he is not suited to a 4 man defence, or that he can't handle pace, then fair enough. If you want to argue that he shouldn't be playing at the moment due to poor form, then fair enough.

But can we please stop the ridiculous exaggerations and over the top attacks on a Spurs player who has made valuable contributions to the team over the past 2 seasons. Can we support a player, or at the very least use some proportionate/constructive criticism, rather than start scapegoating and attacking him.


I appreciate his qualities and have mentioned them in my previous post. You seem to be reading that im criticising every aspect which I have not, again see above.

I call a spade a spade, im not going to sugarcoat it, his defensive qualities is non existent and it is clear as day every team is targeting him, there is a reason for that. I dont think too highly of Ben Davies for example but his defending is far better than Trippiers. As a squad player, lets keep him but certainly not a first teamer. It is not his form, it is his defensive ability that is the issue, it was schoolboy/sunday league stuff.

His defending is fucking shit, he was beaten so many times by Sterling even in the air he had been beaten.
 

Stamford

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He's honestly bang average. Couple of good games against dross at the World Cup will not convince me otherwise
 
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The joys of playing a good wing back as a classic right back. Who would have thought ....
 

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Japhet

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that was a diabolical bit of play to concede the goal when he fucked up badly not once but twice. no point in sugarcoating it.

Absolutely, but over the 90+ minutes he was a damn site better than Kyle Walker, or should I say, Kyle Walker was a damn site worse.
 
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