Player Watch: Kieran Trippier

[TheAmerican]

It's strange that there's such heavy interest in Tripper from big European clubs. He's very much an English style attacking RB, good delivery and passing but not great in tight spaces or particularly patient or varied in his attacking play, he needs a high volume of crossing opportunities to be effective and is a pretty poor defender. Stylewise it's a really weird fit with a team that plays like Atletico.

I actually think he would suite Atletico very well. They set up more structured-defensively. He won't be caught out as much. He should also have more time on the ball out wide, allowing him to put some good crosses in.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

Amazes me people always forget about possibly the most important factor in any transfer fee - age. Trippier is 29 in a few months.

The fee is very fair for Trippier. As you’ve said he’s nearly 29 and has just come off the back of a very poor season. Multiple teams targeted him and looked to exploit his lack of pace and poor positional awareness. We can’t then expect someone to pay £30-40m for him.

 

[Snarfalicious]

Think it's clear now that this was the fan favorite that could be sold. Really difficult times.

 

[Mackan110]

Think it's clear now that this was the fan favorite that could be sold. Really difficult times.

Fan favourite? Never heard anyone here in sweden rate him (atleast last season)

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Think it's clear now that this was the fan favorite that could be sold. Really difficult times.

This is so dry, I laughed.

 

[scat1620]

Fan favourite? Never heard anyone here in sweden rate him (atleast last season)

 

[spursfan77]

Are the Sess brothers that good? I honestly have no idea.

I think we can all safely say they currently aren’t going to be able to be starters at fullback in a title challenging team, which is what I now expect us to be.

 

[$hoguN]

If the rumour is true that Trippier is going, I wish him the best of luck. I don’t think we will be weaker without him next season

 

[$hoguN]

I think we can all safely say they currently aren’t going to be able to be starters at fullback in a title challenging team, which is what I now expect us to be.

I wouldn’t underestimate Ryan Sessegnon. Much like Dele I think he will quickly push for a starting spot if we can secure his services

 

[spursfan77]

I wouldn’t underestimate Ryan Sessegnon. Much like Dele I think he will quickly push for a starting spot if we can secure his services

Yeah he’s a good player but he’s not a PL challenging left back as of today. I’d love him to come in and be one (if we sign him) but it’s a big big ask of him. You know what fans are like nowadays. One bad game and he’s in trouble. We can’t throw him in like that.

 

[WePlayWednesday]

thanks lyall. in other news, i've a dinosaur in the back garden.

plum.

Is your dinosaur any good at right back? ?

 

[GetSpurredOn]

Media reports floating between £20-25m. Looks a little low to me given the value other players are going for. Can’t say I’m too concerned about him going, as I think with more consistent minutes Aurier and Walker-Peters will improve. Some use Trent Alexander-Arnold as a benchmark for Walker-Peters, but I look back to how fast he developed from promising youth player to England international, and can’t help but think that is down to getting regular gametime to develop.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Yeah he’s a good player but he’s not a PL challenging left back as of today. I’d love him to come in and be one (if we sign him) but it’s a big big ask of him. You know what fans are like nowadays. One bad game and he’s in trouble. We can’t throw him in like that.

We have Davies though. If Sessegnon struggles with consistency then he'll just be rotated out. I really don't see the issue, the lad has lots of talent if we don't sign him now and start playing him he'll go on to a different team and be out of price range before too long.

 

[spursfan77]

We have Davies though. If Sessegnon struggles with consistency then he'll just be rotated out. I really don't see the issue, the lad has lots of talent if we don't sign him now and start playing him he'll go on to a different team and be out of price range before too long.

I definitely think we should sign him. I just think we should be realistic with how he adapts.

 

[JamieSpursCommunityUser]

Assuming for a moment it's not intended for KWP to step up and given that we're splashing some cash, what right backs could we realistically get that could be an improvement?

Its rumoured that Atlético were in advanced negotiations with Napoli for Hysaj for around 20m Euros, who is said to want a move and has 2 years left on his contract. Napoli were said to want 25m Euros.

If so, I guess it must have fallen apart in the last few days for them to switch to Trippier.

So in answer to your question, this would probably be the best RB upgrade we could possibly make this window.

Maybe even better than Walker, certainly defensively and in possession.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Its rumoured that Atlético were in advanced negotiations with Napoli for Hysaj for around 20m Euros, who is said to want a move and has 2 years left on his contract. Napoli were said to want 25m Euros.

If so, I guess it must have fallen apart in the last few days for them to switch to Trippier.

So in answer to your question, this would probably be the best RB upgrade we could possibly make this window.

Maybe even better than Walker, certainly defensively and in possession.

We have just been linked with him in the Italian press actually. Does say Sarri wants him to however.

 

[Stoof]

I watched this twice. Lol

 

[glospur]

We need attacking output from our fullbacks almost as much as them being able to defend. Foyth is limited in this area, thus he's likely either going to get caught out of position defensively whilst trying to push on, or be ineffective going forward. He's also rash in the challenge still. He absolutely cannot start there for us if we want to compete.

What makes you say he's limited in that area? I would argue that we don't actually know what he's like in this area yet. What we do know is that he is outstanding technically and is generally a good decision maker on the ball. He's also quick enough without being rapid. There's enough that we do know about him to suggest that he could be good going forward, but we just don't know that for sure yet.

I listened to an interesting discussion a couple of weeks ago about attacking fullbacks. I can't remember if it was on Tifo Football or the Extra Inch. It might have been in relation to Wan-Bissaka. Anyway, one of those tactical style podcasts/videos. It mentioned that crosses from fullbacks is actually a statistically negligent ways in which goals are scored, Ie. really attacking fullbacks are a bit of a myth. It mentioned that what's important about most FBs in the modern game is the threat of width that they provide in an age where it's all number 8s and inside forwards, and the necessity of teams to be mindful of them and as a result not being able to limit room inside. I think back to the years we finished 3rd and 2nd in the league with Walker. He wasn't a great crosser, and he didn't tally many assists. Often he would provide a threat by being wide, but then when in a crossing position, he would regularly cut back to Eriksen, or a Dele, or even as far back as Dembele. Think of those two goals against Chelsea where Walker had the ball, cut back to Eriksen at the corner of the box, who then found Dele at the back post.

My point is that the emphasis you place on having great attacking output is a bit misplaced imo. What we would have in Foyth is someone who can get on the ball in wide area, and with his excellent technique and passing range, find players inside as the opposition shifts over to our right, leaving gaps. In this way he can have his own style of attacking play, without it firing 100 crosses into the box and hoping one finds Kane or Dele unmarked.

 

[thefierycamel]

What makes you say he's limited in that area? I would argue that we don't actually know what he's like in this area yet. What we do know is that he is outstanding technically and is generally a good decision maker on the ball. He's also quick enough without being rapid. There's enough that we do know about him to suggest that he could be good going forward, but we just don't know that for sure yet.

I listened to an interesting discussion a couple of weeks ago about attacking fullbacks. I can't remember if it was on Tifo Football or the Extra Inch. It might have been in relation to Wan-Bissaka. Anyway, one of those tactical style podcasts/videos. It mentioned that crosses from fullbacks is actually a statistically negligent ways in which goals are scored, Ie. really attacking fullbacks are a bit of a myth. It mentioned that what's important about most FBs in the modern game is the threat of width that they provide in an age where it's all number 8s and inside forwards, and the necessity of teams to be mindful of them and as a result not being able to limit room inside. I think back to the years we finished 3rd and 2nd in the league with Walker. He wasn't a great crosser, and he didn't tally many assists. Often he would provide a threat by being wide, but then when in a crossing position, he would regularly cut back to Eriksen, or a Dele, or even as far back as Dembele. Think of those two goals against Chelsea where Walker had the ball, cut back to Eriksen at the corner of the box, who then found Dele at the back post.

My point is that the emphasis you place on having great attacking output is a bit misplaced imo. What we would have in Foyth is someone who can get on the ball in wide area, and with his excellent technique and passing range, find players inside as the opposition shifts over to our right, leaving gaps. In this way he can have his own style of attacking play, without it firing 100 crosses into the box and hoping one finds Kane or Dele unmarked.

The best attacking fullbacks create overloads by overlapping the winger. Balls inside the box lead to goals. Trippier hasn't been capable of beating a player (due to limited dribbling ability and pace), which is why he's only ever been dangerous in acres of space. If foyth sits just past the halfway line and plays passes then he might as well just play central midfield. We need pace out there, especially when 2/3 of the job is to get back and defend. We don't need another right back getting caught out of position because they misplaced a pass, and then didn't have the pace to recover. We lose attacking threat or a large amount of defensive stability by playing him out there. He should be a third choice option (like Jan is at LB) at best.

We've gone from peak walker to talking up the possibility of playing a young, relatively inexperienced CB at RB. There's nothing right with that imo. I'm fine if poch thinks Aurier and KWP can improve and hold down the position, but if he plays foyth there as his first choice then I'll be concerned.

 

[Clark28]

Just an opinion but I think we'll regret this. I'm not happy relying on Aurier, KWP and Foyth.

For people who aren't convinced by Tripps, having Aurier, KWP and Foyth as our RB options is no scarier than having Tripps, Aurier, KWP and Foyth.