Ex-Player Watch Player Watch: Kyle Walker

[Blackrat1299]

Here is Kyles part time job when not playing...........selling mcdonalds

 

[whitesocks]

I doubt Rose has disclosed the full conversation there. Can you imagine "gaffer, there are rumours I am attracting interest from the world's biggest clubs, offering to double my wages"

"Focus on enjoying your football, Danny"

"You're the best, Poch"

There must have been some kind of promise to review it at the end of the season, either a new contract with us or whatever. Certainly his agent will not let the club get off that lightly.

I don't really demand much from Levy given he's doing a brilliant job but keeping this group together feels vitally important. It's not just their talent, but their character. We'd also lose some momentum by bedding in new players and send a negative message. I know finances are not as simple as this but I'd much rather keep this group together than spend millions on fees (and wages) to try to compensate for their loss.

Rose is on £30k p/w - less than 1/3 that Sissoko pockets. Less than half Walker takes home.
He certainly has a good case to argue that he deserves a raise, although it would be better that he gets fit first.
[retracted - that was his old salary. No idea what he is on now]

I find it hard to think Walker would agitate for a move - he is doing all right.
I think if anything, it more likely the club are moving him on. Perhaps he is not passing his beep tests with the same enthusiasm.

What worries me about Trippier is he seems a bit fragile. He has a great cross usually (although I can't remember one against arse) and he has had some great games but some terrible ones like away to Burnley.

Maybe MP is going to put Dier as RB, especially if he brings in a specialist to play as a 3rd CB. Dier has supposedly said he prefers not play CB, so he has no-one to blame but himself if he gets shifted again.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Fuck me. Trippier is not anywhere near as good as him. Hence why he isn't troubling the England squad and he isn't being linked with moves away. He'd be far cheaper to attain than Walker will be - so if he was as good, why isn't he the one that's being touted around?

It isn't just running fast that Walker excels in, B-C making that assertion is disingenuous and makes him look like a poop-nose to me.

Walker would be a huge loss. We'd take ourselves from having the best wing-back options in the league, to having pretty decent options. Davies has been an admirable stand-in, doesn't mean we can cope with selling Rose. Trippier is a very good back-up, but he'd be an average first choice, imvho.

It was disingenuous, deliberately so, I was just making a point. Saying Trippier is no where near as good as him is disingenuous too. Trippier is definitely better than Walker in forward areas. So it certainly isn't as simple as saying he isn't "anywhere near as good as Walker because some of the time he's better.

We've just beat Arsenal without conceding a goal for the first time in eight games against them with Tripper at RB playing against one of the best players in this league. It was his quick thinking that initiated the first goal Sunday. Walker doesn't think quick.

I've acknowledged that Walker probably is better defensively right now, but as games against Palace show, Walker is still capable of being fucking awful, as awful as any of Trippier's defensive performances have been, so it's not the major chasm of class that some would have us believe IMO.

And lets see what happens if Trippier ends up first choice here and Poch works with him and he gets a run of games like walker has had for 5 years. You might just see Trippier improve for it.

 

[DCSPUR]

Rose is on £30k p/w - less than 1/3 that Sissoko pockets. Less than half Walker takes home.
He certainly has a good case to argue that he deserves a raise, although it would be better that he gets fit first.

I find it hard to think Walker would agitate for a move - he is doing all right.
I think if anything, it more likely the club are moving him on. Perhaps he is not passing his beep tests with the same enthusiasm.

What worries me about Trippier is he seems a bit fragile. He has a great cross usually (although I can't remember one against arse) and he has had some great games but some terrible ones like away to Burnley.

Maybe MP is going to put Dier as RB, especially if he brings in a specialist to play as a 3rd CB. Dier has supposedly said he prefers not play CB, so he has no-one to blame but himself if he gets shifted again.

don't think MP will move Dier to RB unless there is an emergency and Dier has said he likes the different roles.
Am thinking, guessing, IF KW leaves, KWP will be back up along with Dier

 

[bubble07]

thought it would be interesting to see a non-Spurs take on KWP:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...to-rival-kyle-walker-for-the-right-back-role/

wow sounds world class

 

[whitesocks]

don't think MP will move Dier to RB unless there is an emergency and Dier has said he likes the different roles.
Am thinking, guessing, IF KW leaves, KWP will be back up along with Dier

To be fair I suspect Dier wants to play as the DM where he got all the acclaim last season and where he plays for England.
That is not going to happen with Wanyama about.

 

[CockOnBall]

I think Trippier has been managed very well by Poch in terms of systems and teams he comes up against. In a 4 at the back against a team like Palace away, opposing teams would aim to cross the ball from the left and have Benteke isolated with Trippier. It's not he's particularly short, it's more to do with his lack of strength. Rose for example is relatively short but you very rarely see him out-powered. He holds his ground very well.

In a 3 at the back system, Trippier is rarely dragged into our box to defend deep crosses, thus he looks a lot better defensively.

Trippier is also played in games where the opposing team have tactics which suit what he can do offensively. Great crosses against teams who sit deep. This includes Arsenal with their pathetic attempt at 3 at the back and Chelsea.

The positive is that most games we face, we're going to come against teams who sit deep. But I fear, especially on the big pitch at Wembley, Walker's athletism and experience will be sorely missed

 

[tiger666]

Rose is on £30k p/w - less than 1/3 that Sissoko pockets. Less than half Walker takes home.
He certainly has a good case to argue that he deserves a raise, although it would be better that he gets fit first.

I find it hard to think Walker would agitate for a move - he is doing all right.
I think if anything, it more likely the club are moving him on. Perhaps he is not passing his beep tests with the same enthusiasm.

What worries me about Trippier is he seems a bit fragile. He has a great cross usually (although I can't remember one against arse) and he has had some great games but some terrible ones like away to Burnley.

Maybe MP is going to put Dier as RB, especially if he brings in a specialist to play as a 3rd CB. Dier has supposedly said he prefers not play CB, so he has no-one to blame but himself if he gets shifted again.

Who says Rose is on 30k a week?

 

[archiewasking]

Would love Maguire. He's class. And could play at CB alongside Toby and Jan as heir apparent to their throne. Allowing Dier to move back to DM, where, let's be honest, he's light years better.

@tiger666 - what are you disagreeing with; Dier being better in DM, or Maguire being a good buy??

 

[St José Dominguez]

Who says Rose is on 30k a week?

Didn't he sign a new contract in September? If he signed a new contract then for 30k he's mental. He was England's first choice LB then. I'd be astonished if it's not double that.

 

[tiger666]

@tiger666 - what are you disagreening with; Dier being better in DM, or Maguire being a good buy??

Sorry must have misclicked somewhere. Removed.

 

[archiewasking]

To be fair I suspect Dier wants to play as the DM where he got all the acclaim last season and where he plays for England.
That is not going to happen with Wanyama about.

2 out of 3 of Dier, Wanyama and Dembele would cover those 2 positions very nicely imo.

 

[diamond lights]

Who says Rose is on 30k a week?

I'm sure the new contract he signed this season was not for £30k a week. If it was he needs to sack his agent.

 

[CockOnBall]

The arrogance of this

"Kyle Walker from Tottenham Hotspur is likely to join the club this summer and be the starter in the position, and Navas will stay as his replacement."

http://bitterandblue.sbnation.com/2...-new-contract-sevilla-zabaleta-sagna-transfer

Levy should tell them to go fuck themselves.

 

[DCSPUR]

To be fair I suspect Dier wants to play as the DM where he got all the acclaim last season and where he plays for England.
That is not going to happen with Wanyama about.

well worth reading the piece from the Guardian on Dier and his role in the Poch system....think he will be pretty happy with game time, role and, yes, the credit for his key role in the Poch system:
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ier-versatility-tottenham-flexibility-arsenal

 

[Littleharry]

Our main strength is our team spirit and the players believing in Poch and being 100% behind him and his decisions. If Walker is not going to do this or thinks that the grass is greener then he will have to be sold. It would only take one or two bad apples in the squad to spread unrest. I really like Walker but he is not irreplaceable.

 

[Tucker]

The arrogance of this

"Kyle Walker from Tottenham Hotspur is likely to join the club this summer and be the starter in the position, and Navas will stay as his replacement."

http://bitterandblue.sbnation.com/2...-new-contract-sevilla-zabaleta-sagna-transfer

Levy should tell them to go fuck themselves.

I wouldn't get your hopes up.

 

[Kiedis]

I've acknowledged that Walker probably is better defensively right now, but as games against Palace show, Walker is still capable of being fucking awful, as awful as any of Trippier's defensive performances have been, so it's not the major chasm of class that some would have us believe IMO.

Singing Walkers praises probably isn't the most kosher thing to do these days, but I'd say the Palace game showed a positive thing we get with Walker. His crossing was off, and Zaha was testing him as well as he could and showed some tricky feet at the half way line, but still; if I had a buck for every time Zaha managed to enter the final third with the ball and actually create something, I'd have exactly no bucks.

Walker bullied him physically and came out comfortably on top in that match up.

So in a game where he wasn't at his best, he still nullified one of the leagues in form players.

 

[diamond lights]

Our main strength is our team spirit and the players believing in Poch and being 100% behind him and his decisions. If Walker is not going to do this or thinks that the grass is greener then he will have to be sold. It would only take one or two bad apples in the squad to spread unrest. I really like Walker but he is not irreplaceable.

Absolutely this - the days of any player holding the club to ransom are gone.

Poch has instilled an atmosphere of "we're going places...get on board". If you don't then bye bye ....you'll miss us more than we will miss you.

 

[dagraham]

I think Trippier has been managed very well by Poch in terms of systems and teams he comes up against. In a 4 at the back against a team like Palace away, opposing teams would aim to cross the ball from the left and have Benteke isolated with Trippier. It's not he's particularly short, it's more to do with his lack of strength. Rose for example is relatively short but you very rarely see him out-powered. He holds his ground very well.

In a 3 at the back system, Trippier is rarely dragged into our box to defend deep crosses, thus he looks a lot better defensively.

Trippier is also played in games where the opposing team have tactics which suit what he can do offensively. Great crosses against teams who sit deep. This includes Arsenal with their pathetic attempt at 3 at the back and Chelsea.

The positive is that most games we face, we're going to come against teams who sit deep. But I fear, especially on the big pitch at Wembley, Walker's athletism and experience will be sorely missed

Very good points. Trippier wasn't very effective in the SF and if we cast our minds back to the poor displays at Wembley in the CL Walker was actually one of the more effective players in an attacking sense in an otherwise poor display, especially against Monaco.