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F365’s early loser: Kyle Walker
Date published: Monday 15th May 2017 10:35
You can hardly blame Mauricio Pochettino for strong, decisive management, nor be surprised when he displays it. His Tottenham’s revolution has been achieved through the insistence that no individual is more important than the collective, for that is the only way in which a team can be greater than the sum of its parts.
Cue the 1,000th person pointing out that Pochettino has not yet won a trophy, as if that is the only way in which progress can be judged. There is no doubt that the Argentinean would not consider his journey complete without silverware, but that does not mean we should avoid pouring praise on the Premier League’s most consistent manager over the last two years.
If Pochettino’s demands of dedication to the greater good have long been evident on the pitch, Kyle Walker is the first to find out just how committed his manager is to that principle. Pochettino’s strategy to rotate right wing-backs to keep Walker and Kieran Trippier fresh in the absence of Danny Rose has annoyed the former; Walker has seemingly had his head turned by interest from Manchester City.
Having crossed Pochettino, Walker could not be allowed to win the power battle. The full-back will be bitterly disappointed not to have started against Manchester United in the final ever game at White Hart Lane, and some may consider it a harsh punishment on a player who just wants to start matches. It will do little to thaw a now frosty relationship.
Yet this is how it has to be at Tottenham. This is a club who pay lower wages than their title-challening peers, where Pochettino promises a positive working environment between like-minded young players. This is Tottenham, where the project and not the paychecks are given the hard sell. The moment Pochettino cedes to player power, the mask slips. If the strategy was flawed, the timing – as Tottenham were embarking on a title tilt – was worse. Pochettino and supporters will insist that the grass in Manchester is not necessarily greener than in north London.
What is interesting is just how emphatic the support for Pochettino has been from Tottenham’s support. The manager is wilfully casting adrift one of the team’s key players and most valuable assets, yet the majority response is to praise his resolve and strength of character. Having Trippier as an effective fill-in plays a part in that reaction, but so too does the trust placed in Pochettino’s methods.
It might sound ludicrous to describe any player likely to double his money this summer as a loser, but Walker is certainly about to endure a different type of pressure to the one at Tottenham. He will be replacing a club legend, and given the responsibility to ignite a successful second season for Pep Guardiola. Sometimes it is easier being the underdog.
There is nothing wrong with a player showing ambition to be first-choice at a club who will be a shorter price than Spurs for Premier League and Champions League trophies next season, yet if Walker or his agent thought that they could dictate to Tottenham, they were mistaken. Everyone at this club is reading from the Book of Pochettino; there is little value in keeping people who aren’t reading from the same page.
Daniel Storey
http://www.football365.com/news/f365s-early-loser-kyle-walker
Date published: Monday 15th May 2017 10:35
You can hardly blame Mauricio Pochettino for strong, decisive management, nor be surprised when he displays it. His Tottenham’s revolution has been achieved through the insistence that no individual is more important than the collective, for that is the only way in which a team can be greater than the sum of its parts.
Cue the 1,000th person pointing out that Pochettino has not yet won a trophy, as if that is the only way in which progress can be judged. There is no doubt that the Argentinean would not consider his journey complete without silverware, but that does not mean we should avoid pouring praise on the Premier League’s most consistent manager over the last two years.
If Pochettino’s demands of dedication to the greater good have long been evident on the pitch, Kyle Walker is the first to find out just how committed his manager is to that principle. Pochettino’s strategy to rotate right wing-backs to keep Walker and Kieran Trippier fresh in the absence of Danny Rose has annoyed the former; Walker has seemingly had his head turned by interest from Manchester City.
Having crossed Pochettino, Walker could not be allowed to win the power battle. The full-back will be bitterly disappointed not to have started against Manchester United in the final ever game at White Hart Lane, and some may consider it a harsh punishment on a player who just wants to start matches. It will do little to thaw a now frosty relationship.
Yet this is how it has to be at Tottenham. This is a club who pay lower wages than their title-challening peers, where Pochettino promises a positive working environment between like-minded young players. This is Tottenham, where the project and not the paychecks are given the hard sell. The moment Pochettino cedes to player power, the mask slips. If the strategy was flawed, the timing – as Tottenham were embarking on a title tilt – was worse. Pochettino and supporters will insist that the grass in Manchester is not necessarily greener than in north London.
What is interesting is just how emphatic the support for Pochettino has been from Tottenham’s support. The manager is wilfully casting adrift one of the team’s key players and most valuable assets, yet the majority response is to praise his resolve and strength of character. Having Trippier as an effective fill-in plays a part in that reaction, but so too does the trust placed in Pochettino’s methods.
It might sound ludicrous to describe any player likely to double his money this summer as a loser, but Walker is certainly about to endure a different type of pressure to the one at Tottenham. He will be replacing a club legend, and given the responsibility to ignite a successful second season for Pep Guardiola. Sometimes it is easier being the underdog.
There is nothing wrong with a player showing ambition to be first-choice at a club who will be a shorter price than Spurs for Premier League and Champions League trophies next season, yet if Walker or his agent thought that they could dictate to Tottenham, they were mistaken. Everyone at this club is reading from the Book of Pochettino; there is little value in keeping people who aren’t reading from the same page.
Daniel Storey
http://www.football365.com/news/f365s-early-loser-kyle-walker
Dr Benson
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To let Trippier replace him and 40 mill from City is an alternative. Obviously there`s something wrong. Either between him and Poch, or his (negative??
) role in the dynamic of the group, or Poch simply consider Trippier to be an up and coming and better alternative for the future anyway?
) role in the dynamic of the group, or Poch simply consider Trippier to be an up and coming and better alternative for the future anyway?
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SargeantMeatCurtains
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Been saying this all two days.
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I'd be amazed if DL sold him to City for just £35m.
The same City that paid 30 odd million for Otamendi... The team that paid nearly £40m for Mangala... the team that paid £50m for Stones...
The same City that paid 30 odd million for Otamendi... The team that paid nearly £40m for Mangala... the team that paid £50m for Stones...
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I trust his info..
..because his name us Ali
Dr Benson
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The problem is that when you`re Spurs player and only earn 60 k per week, you actually got to SAVE money and WAIT (!) some months before you can buy that 3 mill yacht!! Its quite hard hard to live season after season under such circumstances and such a weak financial situation. And then City knoncks on the door..
Its quite hard hard to live season after season under such circumstances and such a weak financial situation. And then City knoncks on the door..
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Thuram never played for Madrid, he signed for Barcelona 11 years ago for 5m.
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Assume he means Juventus.
spurs9
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Then that was 22m not 30m+.
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Yep, it has to be top dollar prices +10m or more for the inconvenience. Then go out and find the next star to mould. Walker was and still is prone to mistakes, 50m+ isn't going to be bad for someone who wants to go (If that is the case). Wonder if he will get better under Guardiola or be baffled by the systems and instructions?
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A huge part of the risk with big money buys from other leagues/abroad is that the player won't adapt quickly or at all.
That is simply not an issue with Walker: he's proven PL quality.
He's also coming into his peak and English, both of which drive up value.
As for this "defenders aren't as expensive": not traditionally, no. But right now, with many teams using a back 3, wing backs are tremendously important for a team's attacking play.
Most of the time, Walker absolutely dominates the right side of the pitch. Maybe I'm ignorant, but I can't think of (m)any other full backs in the PL who do that.
Plus, City are a direct rival and have essentially unlimited resources.
That's why I think we should quote them £50m or sell him somewhere abroad for £35-40m. If City feel they can get better value elsewhere, fucking let them. Let's not help them out.
That is simply not an issue with Walker: he's proven PL quality.
He's also coming into his peak and English, both of which drive up value.
As for this "defenders aren't as expensive": not traditionally, no. But right now, with many teams using a back 3, wing backs are tremendously important for a team's attacking play.
Most of the time, Walker absolutely dominates the right side of the pitch. Maybe I'm ignorant, but I can't think of (m)any other full backs in the PL who do that.
Plus, City are a direct rival and have essentially unlimited resources.
That's why I think we should quote them £50m or sell him somewhere abroad for £35-40m. If City feel they can get better value elsewhere, fucking let them. Let's not help them out.
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I think this is right.
If anything has been agreed, it is the wages and signing on fee Walker's agent has negotiated.
There was a similar pattern when Modric was leaving - everything had been agreed but not between the clubs.
Levy is in a strong position here - he could easy just say no.
nedley
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My bad. Juventus.
nedley
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And it was a deal involving Buffon as well so not as much as 30m+.
My point still stands though.
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