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Japhet

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He's nowhere near consistent enough, I'd love to see his assists and goals return. The odd great game aside it's all pretty turns and fluff and has been for quite some time. I've never understood the love in that SC has for him and thought I must be missing something but I'm not sure I am really, not of any substance anyway.

He always draws opponents in to try to dispossess him. They know that 1 one won't be enough, so more often than not 2 players are after him. That creates the pockets of space that Eriksen, Lamela, Son, Dele etc. can use. We'll certainly miss him when he goes and may well have to adopt a totally different style of play.
 

Westmorlandspur

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A proper top class midfielder scores and makes goals. Unfortunately Dembele does neither. I think he has 7 goals in about 6 years. Assists would be around nil I would think
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Most people acknowledge how good a player he can be, that isn't being disputed, it's his consistency that's being questioned. But being as you think we're watching the wrong sport and knee jerking, here's some food for thought. (Thought lol)
Knee jerkers central.If you don't know what dembele brings to the table You are watching the wrong sport.
The premier league website says

Dembele - 170 apps + 41 as sub = 7 goals, 7 assists.....that's PL games only I think but it's enough. Or not enough depending on wether or not you're watching the right sport.

Lamela has 8 premier league goals over 5 seasons and a 102 games. None of those figures are any thing to get excited about why prolong the agony.
So, lets say "knee jerkers central, if you don't know what Lamela brings to the table, you're watching the wrong sport"

If you're going to talk shit, would you please take the sweetcorn out winkle.
 
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dontsalebale

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Most people acknowledge how good a player he can be, that isn't being disputed, it's his consistency that's being questioned. But being as you think we're watching the wrong sport and knee jerking, here's some food for thought. (Thought lol)

The premier league website says

Dembele - 170 apps + 41 as sub = 7 goals, 7 assists.....that's PL games only I think but it's enough. Or not enough depending on wether or not you're watching the right sport.


So, lets say "knee jerkers central, if you don't know what Lamela brings to the table, you're watching the wrong sport"

If you're going to talk shit, would you please take the sweetcorn out winkle.
Your comparing Lamela to dembele I will just let that hang their.
 

Cravenspurs

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Knee jerkers central.If you don't know what dembele brings to the table You are watching the wrong sport.

I have made comments like this and have had to clarify for he masses. I believe I know what he brings, but I also think we can improve our midfield and that doesn’t include having Dembele in it.

Do you feel the same way or is he the best we can get?
 

Cravenspurs

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He always draws opponents in to try to dispossess him. They know that 1 one won't be enough, so more often than not 2 players are after him. That creates the pockets of space that Eriksen, Lamela, Son, Dele etc. can use. We'll certainly miss him when he goes and may well have to adopt a totally different style of play.

I work in change management...change can be good folks. In this case it is needed. We can talk about his ability to dance and dominate his opponent physically all day, but when it comes to moving the ball, picking his head up, finding passes, releasing the ball in a timely manner, we can definitely improve and dun, dun, dun, our game will change.
 

dontsalebale

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No, I'm comparing stats you said weren't good enough for one player but don't even mention for another. I would expect you to get it, after all, you know what sport you're watching.

Leave that hanging my arse.
You are comparing apples and pears. That is not his function in the team.
 
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dontsalebale

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I work in change management...change can be good folks. In this case it is needed. We can talk about his ability to dance and dominate his opponent physically all day, but when it comes to moving the ball, picking his head up, finding passes, releasing the ball in a timely manner, we can definitely improve and dun, dun, dun, our game will change.
I have posted endlessly as have other posters about what he brings to the team. I think it is patently obvious, If you cant see it then you cant.
 

Cravenspurs

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I have posted endlessly as have other posters about what he brings to the team. I think it is patently obvious, If you cant see it then you cant.

Opinions differ and yours has been filed and protected by international patent law, so fuck me sideways.

Do you think Dembele would make it in the big squads? The Man City’s, Bayern’s, Barca’s and Reals? Or even Pool’s?
 

dontsalebale

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Opinions differ and yours has been filed and protected by international patent law, so fuck me sideways.

Do you think Dembele would make it in the big squads? The Man City’s, Bayern’s, Barca’s and Reals? Or even Pool’s?

Honestly if I hear you don’t care for the game then I would cut you from my team immediately. I know this isn’t directly from the horses mouth, but I would much rather have a Mason who would give it all to play again verse a player who has it all, but could essentially give it all up with no issue.

It’s stuff like this that really sours my opinion on some players. If you don’t like the game then retire. How are positive he actually cares about the results at the end of the day? Because he tears a Brazilians eye out? He does seem to put it all out there, but now that I have heard that I would definitely be on the market for a replacement that wants to be here.
You have your opinion on Dembele I think you are blissfully unaware of what he does. I don't think either of us is going to change each others mind as we are polls apart.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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You have your opinion on Dembele I think you are blissfully unaware of what he does. I don't think either of us is going to change each others mind as we are polls apart.
Only he isn't being an utter cock about it.

Knee jerkers? Don't know what sport they are watching?

Stop trolling and people will stop biting.
 

Cravenspurs

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You have your opinion on Dembele I think you are blissfully unaware of what he does. I don't think either of us is going to change each others mind as we are polls apart.

I agree. I am beginning to think we are a couple in mediation and you just aren’t hearing my questions as you just keep deflecting and ignoring my bids.

We were doomed from the start :(
 

Fowl!

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Looked like he picked up a strain or knock middle of the first half.

Certainly played poorly after that.
 

kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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I guess it depends on how much emphasis you put on stats? I think the main reason the other players rate Dembele is because he makes a lot of there jobs easier. You can generally dump the ball into him if you or him are under pressure and he will normally look after it, not panic and give hospital balls like a lot of other players would. Players aren’t stupid they clearly appreciate what he brings to the table.

Personally I’ve always been a fan he’s a player that can play a big part in really dominating a team. There has obviously been games where he’s played and we haven’t played well but that can be said of all of them and I also think even though we’re more than capable of winning without him we are more likely to cough up more ball and have less of a stranglehold on games.

We could go out in the summer and buy a couple of midfielders with good assist and goal records. Would that automatically make us better? I doubt it.
 

C0YS

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Opinions differ and yours has been filed and protected by international patent law, so fuck me sideways.

Do you think Dembele would make it in the big squads? The Man City’s, Bayern’s, Barca’s and Reals? Or even Pool’s?
Absolutely, yes. he could play for any of those teams. There is a reason he is universally regarded as our best player by his team mates.

However, his injuries are catching up with him and he is an ageing player and you can tell. Two years ago Dembele was unplayable, while he still can run games all by himself, like our win against Man Utd and the Liverpool draw, he is no longer as consistent.

If the club want to sell, maybe it is time. Its really the last time we can get a good pay check for him. He isn't our future anymore.
 

Cravenspurs

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Absolutely, yes. he could play for any of those teams. There is a reason he is universally regarded as our best player by his team mates.

However, his injuries are catching up with him and he is an ageing player and you can tell. Two years ago Dembele was unplayable, while he still can run games all by himself, like our win against Man Utd and the Liverpool draw, he is no longer as consistent.

If the club want to sell, maybe it is time. Its really the last time we can get a good pay check for him. He isn't our future anymore.

Again I respect your opinion, but for me he doesn’t walk into any of those squads. Maybe a couple years back at City and Pool, but I don’t think he fits the current managers tactics. He isn’t a defensive great. He isn’t a quick thinker with the ball at his feet. He isn’t spraying the ball around like KDB, Thiago, Basquets. He slaloms past people and does some amazing work at getting us out of tight spots, but those moments are fleeting and yes, the future is not his.

Appreciate the reply and conversation verse the negative ratings and the direct attacks on opinion! :)
 
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