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Player Watch: Moussa Sissoko

Mornstar

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Memories that can now be laid to rest!!
They shouldnt get away so easily. Can the mods please hand out a 2 week ban to all of the posters above?

My personal preference would be a public lynching for them all but I'm conscious that might be disagreeable to some (poncies) on here
 

BringBack_leGin

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Harsh. Last couple of games he's shown some great footwork when dribbling and, more importantly, some real awareness and incisiveness with his passing.

Early on when finding his feet.

Pretty sure he's going to be an expensive mistake, but I never failed to be sickened by the gleeful 'I told you so' comments on this site, as if posters feel that their oracle like football foresight has been validated.

I for one hope he turns it around and takes a celebratory shit on each of your mums' heads!

That failing, I hope we claw our money back/ swap him for Barkley.

Has he produced said shit yet? Nope, he’s too nice a guy. Take back what I said about swapping him for Barkley.

He was part of a central 3, right sides with Pogba left sides and Matuidi in the middle, and he did look very good.

I don't think he's going to succeed with us and this season has been a disaster, but he's a better player than we've seen.

What, so Sissoko as an RCM can work beyond Euro2016 too? Who’d’ve thunk it?

well then he played rw very badly considering he spent the whole time bombing down the middle.

In response to someone insisting he’s a winger, just a bad one.

Yesterday he did exactly what Essien used to do for Mourinho. There's a use for it and if it becomes a viable option in certain situations it will be an improvement on last season. I wouldn't want him there against our top 4 rivals but against lesser sides who set up to spoil he has a use as possession becomes less important. He offers the thing that Dembele doesn't in that respect.

Soothsayer extraordinaire.

Yes but I'm the context of yesterday, Sissoko played as a box to box midfielder, a remit you would never give to Son. There were only to spots for Son in yesterday's tactic, they were occupied by Dele and Kane. Winks could have played in Sissokos place but again, he'd have been more suited to Eriksen's role. Dembele was the player who Sissoko played in place of, I imagine because we need to nurse him through a season and he'd just played to games for Belgium and will start v Dortmund.

In response to someone asking why he played instead of Son sometime.

So if Kane scores two goals but misses two sitters, the two goals don't count?

In response to someone claiming that him wasting several crossing opportunities nullifies the several good chances he created.

He’s turned into Zokora, which is fine when he’s a second choice player, there’s a use for the athletic foot soldier.

This is probably the harshest I’ve been on him.

Would make sense for a lot of clubs outside the top 6. 28 years old, strong, fast, tall, athletic, very premier league experienced and also an experienced international with a top nation. Can play box to box or out wide and is good at dragging the ball up the pitch. Also see’s a lot of ball and doesn’t give it away, albeit is unadventurous with it. For a safety first side, an experienced athletic French international in his prime who works his arse off and rarely loses possession could be the difference between competing or not in the games v the top 6. Hell, Mourinho has always had a Sissoko type in his squads.

With the exception of mainly Everton, I could see Sissoko improving the first team at every side from Burnley down in last year’s table.

Seemingly every side from Man U down last season...

Sissoko is our fifth choice central midfielder and our sixth choice attacking midfielder. That means that for five positions, he is our tenth choice player. And thank god he is, because our injury problems in those areas have been horrible this season, disproportionately so.

And from our break glass in case of emergency player he has risen to key player.

No he fucking hasn’t, he’s been ridiculed and derided constantly. The woman behind me literally shouts ‘no no no’ when she spots him getting ready to come on and abuses his every touch.


Maybe not that part of his post but everything else @Ben1 saya is completely true:

In response to someone saying he doesn’t get abused at games.

Maybe, just maybe, players perform better when they start matches regularly, in the same position and with the same role.

No, that’s madness, he’s shit and the recent form is the result of voodoo.

His recent performances are reminiscent of a peak Essien. Driven, aggressive, demanding.

I’m really running with this Essien thing aren’t I?

If you’re at the matches, you, along with many others, are a dreadful waste of a seat that could go to good supporter. Seriously, what the fuck is this? Other than after the final whistle of a genuinely horrendous collective performance, when is it ever acceptable to get on players’ backs? The answer is never. If you disagree you shouldn’t be allowed within a mile of the ground on matchdays.

In response to someone saying it was acceptable to boo Sissoko.

Today he was like Essien at his very best for Chelsea, or better praise, Sissoko from Euro2016. Great performance, his turnaround combined with Winks continued improvement makes the inevitable loss of Dembele for free next summer seem rather unconcerning.

Sissokolution complete ?


Guys, can we all learn a lesson or two. Firstly, a player who is in and out of the side will always struggle to build up decent form. Two, getting on players backs at matches is unacceptable, because players need confidence to hit their best form and we are seeing how stark that contrast is right now.

Oh and three, BBLG knows .... :finger:
 

Charly***

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Confidence is massive, last season he was making good runs but was reluctant to put a ball in, he'd pass back & momentum would be lost. But that's a big change, he's not hesitating now & putting some decent balls into the box & everything is flowing as a result. I hope he starts having a few shots in future, but that said it's always good to see a player play through criticism & he deserves the praise at the moment, it's nice to see, he's starting to make the most of his ability.
 

E17yid

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Memories that can now be laid to rest!!

I stand by that comment. At the time his touch and vision was shocking. Now it’s nowhere near as bad so happy days. If he goes back to being awful I’ll say as much. If he carries on like this I’ll praise him.

There’s a bit of a difference between criticising a player on here and booing one in a stadium. Unless you think Sissoko is trawling through this thread?
 

Dzejkob

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I've never fallen in love with player so quick and so rapidly. Usually every time he had the ball I was just waiting for him to lose it. After some time I wasn't even angry. But now, every time he has the ball it's:
GOOOOO MOUSSAA GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

It's like watching Wigan Athletic defeating Man City.
 

dontcallme

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I am concerned that Poch is going to be done in a betting scam.

He has held Sissoko back for two years then spent a summer not spending.

All to get the odds of us winning the league down.

At the perfect time he has unleashed Sissoko making winning the league a mere formality.

If lots of Argentinian sources have put money on us winning the league, Poch is going down.
 

dontcallme

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I stand by that comment. At the time his touch and vision was shocking. Now it’s nowhere near as bad so happy days. If he goes back to being awful I’ll say as much. If he carries on like this I’ll praise him.

There’s a bit of a difference between criticising a player on here and booing one in a stadium. Unless you think Sissoko is trawling through this thread?

The thing that is interesting though is professional footballers don’t learn the basics of the game in such a short space of time.

Any ability Sissoko is showing now he already had.

It has to be other factors in place.
 

E17yid

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The thing that is interesting though is professional footballers don’t learn the basics of the game in such a short space of time.

Any ability Sissoko is showing now he already had.

It has to be other factors in place.

To be fair he’s still not great technically but his general all round confidence has improved massively which means he’s effecting games in a positive way a lot more now and, most importantly, on a consistent basis. This means his technical inefficiency is noticed less. I guess the term is “a confidence player” and it’s great to see him play with some now but I’m not going to sit here and say I think he’s an amazing player coz I don’t think he is. He’s in the form of his life and is really contributing to the team and I hope that continues for as long as Dembele is out.
 

dontcallme

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To be fair he’s still not great technically but his general all round confidence has improved massively which means he’s effecting games in a positive way a lot more now and, most importantly, on a consistent basis. This means his technical inefficiency is noticed less. I guess the term is “a confidence player” and it’s great to see him play with some now but I’m not going to sit here and say I think he’s an amazing player coz I don’t think he is. He’s in the form of his life and is really contributing to the team and I hope that continues for as long as Dembele is out.

I have no problem with you not rating. I didn’t and still think he has his limitations.

Rather than having the normal slinging match of outing people for not rating a player I thought I would discuss your post on why he is now performing better.

I remember at the beginning he mentioned his fitness was not to Poch’s level.

I also think he is a very good ball carrier so with Dembele there was less need for him.

I think Poch used him to play deeper and cover the wide areas when our full backs get forward.

This is a thankless task and one no one will shine in.

So I have no problem with anyone not rating him.

Just happy that we have finally found a role for him where he thrives.
 

E17yid

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I have no problem with you not rating. I didn’t and still think he has his limitations.

Rather than having the normal slinging match of outing people for not rating a player I thought I would discuss your post on why he is now performing better.

I remember at the beginning he mentioned his fitness was not to Poch’s level.

I also think he is a very good ball carrier so with Dembele there was less need for him.

I think Poch used him to play deeper and cover the wide areas when our full backs get forward.

This is a thankless task and one no one will shine in.

So I have no problem with anyone not rating him.

Just happy that we have finally found a role for him where he thrives.

I remember defending him a bit in the early days as I was clinging onto the hope that he was playing badly due to not being played in his favoured CM position but I must admit I lost confidence in seeing him play like he is now anywhere on the pitch.
 

spids

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Fast becoming a club legend, and I hope all who slated him are currently enjoying horseshit sandwiches. :)

Sorry. Of all the current players Kane is closest to attaining legend status, and that will get bestowed at the end of his career. You don’t get close to the likes of Blanchflower, Perryman, Hoddle and King by having a decent run of 5 or 6 games. It’s great he’s now showing he’s a real asset and has a role in our team / squad, and we should show him some love, but let’s keep legend status for the true greats.
 

spursfan77

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Modern day fans have no grey area. You are either great or shit, no inbetween.

I completely agree but if you turn up at a club for £30 million and are on £80k a week then fans are quite right to expect you to be able to trap a ball first time, control a football and be able to pass it to a teammate 5 yards away with no pressure on him from an opposing player.

I’ve absolutely nothing to apologise for berating a player on SC for that and neither should anyone else who complained about him for these things.

He appeared to be an athlete rather than a footballer. Nobody can despite that. But also nobody can dispute that both the player and coaching team deserve a massive pat on the back for turning into the player we’ve seen in the last month. Hopefully he can keep it up.
 

spursfan77

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One of the biggest changes I’ve noticed is he plays like a leader now. The confidence has him pointing at and yelling at everyone to get into positions or pointing out passes. Happy for him (y)

I think he’s also changed physically. He seems to be less bulky and muscly whilst still having the same strength. While that doesn’t improve his technical side it’s definitely helped him become a better footballer. Poch has always trusted him tactically, it was just his technical skills that let him down.
 

Shadydan

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I completely agree but if you turn up at a club for £30 million and are on £80k a week then fans are quite right to expect you to be able to trap a ball first time, control a football and be able to pass it to a teammate 5 yards away with no pressure on him from an opposing player.

I’ve absolutely nothing to apologise for berating a player on SC for that and neither should anyone else who complained about him for these things.

He appeared to be an athlete rather than a footballer. Nobody can despite that. But also nobody can dispute that both the player and coaching team deserve a massive pat on the back for turning into the player we’ve seen in the last month. Hopefully he can keep it up.

Again with the price - we had this with Lamela if anyone actually bothered to see what kind of player Sissoko was when we purchased him and didn't base their opinions off how much we paid for him and how much he's earning then maybe the opinions would have been different and expectations wouldn't be so high in the first place.

But the again I wouldn't expect casual football fans to do that so...
 
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