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Discussion in 'Loanwatch' started by RussellYid, Feb 3, 2012.
FC Schalke 04 @s04_en 3m3 minutes ago
GOOOOOAAAALLLL BENTALEB! WHAT A STRIKE! 1-0!
holy shit what a goal from Nabil!
Ben Foster would have saved it
I really don't see what he's said there that's outrageous.
He's entitled to have some self belief, he's proved he can perform on the highest stage, consistently. What do you want a team of mice ?
The blinded by him being a "youth product" is such cliched bollocks. I couldn't wait for Townsend to get moved on, didn't rate him, and he was "Mr youth product" spurs through and through.
People defend Bentaleb because they believe he was a very talented footballer who performed consistently in a transitional team, next to another novice who was being played in a wrong role in a system (4231) that wasn't best for either of them behind a bunch of chocolate teapots like Townsend and Chadli, yet still helped us finish 5th.
The bollocks spoken about his attitude by people who have absolutely no idea at all about his "attitude" is ridiculous. This is a kid who dragged himself out of his home country, went round trialing at various clubs in England and fought his way into a top team and consistently proved himself as one of it's better performers. The general consensus when his contract negotiations were going on were "FFS Levy pay the boy". Why would that be ?
This isn't an Adebayor, lazy egotistical ****, we are talking about, or a Balotelli turning up in a custom painted camouflaged Ferrari talking about himself in the third person, walking around like he's the crowned prince of a country with a small GDP, but a kid who's renowned for training harder than most, being one of the last off the training ground - even when he wasn't playing in the first team last year - and one who hates losing - a trait I happen to like, who also has bags of ability and huge potential considering what he'd achieved aged 20.
We don't have to paint Bentaleb as the antichrist just because him and Pochettino didn't see eye to eye. This could just be a case of a situation that was untenable, a player frustrated, understandably considering what he'd proved aged 20 then to find he couldn't even get on the bench ahead of people like Carroll, and a manager who takes a very stringent attitude to any form of discontent.
Maybe neither are overly to blame, I like players who have ambition, desire and belief but I also want a manager who values the collective spirit, sometimes they might not be compatible. Or sometimes you will just get personalty clashes.
But there is no way Bentaleb's ego exceeds his talent, what he achieved aged 20 in this league for this team should not be under estimated, I've watched many, many more experienced CM's fail to bring what he did that season in my 50 years.
That's a 5-star post, bro.
he's done it again
We keep tossing world class players overboard. Notable examples include:
- Nabil Bentaleb
- Pau Lopez
Problems behind the scenes.
he's only gone and fucking scored another
And he's got hair again
Nice passing from him in the build up too
How I wish we had tried him further up-field. His could have been the locksmith we've been looking for; and on top of that, we can do with his shooting.
In addition to his goals, are you gonna notify us every time he does a boo boo or is part of a central midfield that gets totally over run?
When he plays in a team that competes for league titles and Champions League places, then you can perhaps say we made a mistake letting him go. But at the moment he's just doing Okish in a bottom of the table team full of average players.
He's already played in a team that competed for a CL place, got to a cup final (where he was probably the best player on the pitch) aged 19/20. At the moment he's averaging more key passes per game than Xabi Alonso, Thiago Alcantara and Joshua Kimmich are for Bayern, and has also scored more goals and made more assists, not bad for a kid playing his first season in a new country as a CM2 for a shit team, going through a transition with other new players also having their first seasons in Germany ?
You're just using selective stats to try and prove a point. Sorry, but just like Dean Marney (one of the most prolific CMs in Spurs' history) Jake Livermore and Ryan Mason, he's downgraded and found his right level. And just as with those players we should wish him well and be thankful for the wonga he'll bring us. I don't expect any of those to ever play for a top 4 Premier League club and I don't expect Bentaleb to either, or the equivalent in Germany, which would be a top 2 club.
Eh? What? I've missed something - isn't he our keeper on loan from Espanyol?
Good for Nabil. We pocket 17 mill and he gets to develop in Germany. Obviously a good player, I would be more heartbroken if we didn't already have Alli, Onomah, Winks, Amos as young talented CM options who need gametime. Hopefully we can invest that money into Isco or a very talented AM.
Bentaleb's case is odd. Joined as a winger, played deep, creative midfield role, then Sherwood introduced him as a centre midfielder. Those mistakes he has made there are the same that Pogba has made at Juve and United. I think he would have thrived in an advanced role but his combative nature angled him towards a central role. Whether he could be accommodated is another matter, so fair play for securing a move with a good club.
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