Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

[Trix]

I'm not convinced by Foyth, but there's no point buying another CB until he's been given the chance, otherwise there was no point buying him.

We have Sanchez , who's different, but already ahead of Alderweireld on merit, as well as Dier, an almost identical player to TA and Foyth. Why an earth do we need to buy another CB when we, hopefully, cash in on TA.

Well he's 20 and currently fourth choice. I wouldn't expect him to be convincing anyone as yet. Rest of your post I think is spot on.

 

[dtxspurs]

Well he's 20 and currently fourth choice. I wouldn't expect him to be convincing anyone as yet. Rest of your post I think is spot on.

To me it all comes down to a top level quality in depth we have right now at the position which I hate the idea of taking away from. I can be resigned to the idea of Toby leaving if we're going to add another quality player in his spot. I don't like the idea of continuing to move Dier around. Dier has thrived recently because we've left him at one spot. I think he needs to continue to grow into that midfield role. We can find other CBs, finding midfield players who can makes passes like he is capable of is much more difficult.

 

[Bobbins]

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All I've seen from the boy is pure promise.

What aspects you concerned about?

Agreed, I've seen absolutely nothing to make me have any doubts about him at all.

For an absolute kid in his first season outside his home country, I think he's been incredibly impressive.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Perhaps nothing has changed. We hear things from different people, and that sometimes comes from different peoples perspectives. It is my opinion(educated by bit's I have heard) that if he is demanding £180k per week, it's because it's an easier get out. He knows full well he isn't going to get it, with us, but will somewhere else.

He's going to Manchester then, because the only other defenders on Van Dijk money across Europe are Ramos and Pique.

An Arsenal fan at work believes he's joining them. Reckons they'll pay the wages and that he wants to stay in London. His "source" is some bloke on twitter, who was apprently correct with a couple of there other transfers but i don't believe it myself.

If he goes there it's definitely for money only!

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Sanchez now has the right centre spot on merit. Foyth or Dier can replace him if he is injured and Alderweireld leaves. The 'problem' position at the back, in my opinion, is the left centre spot. Who can effectively replace Vertonghen if he is injured or needs a rest?

Yeah, I guess, hopefully he sticks around for a few more years.

 

[Jospur]

Yeah, I guess, hopefully he sticks around for a few more years.

I don't see why Vertonghen would want to leave at this point. Tottenham Hotspur is a Club on the up. The point is that Vertonghen may very well get injured (or need a rest) and then what do we do? A left-sided centre back should be the greater priority than a replacement for Alderweireld. I know that Davies can play that role in a pinch but is he good enough to do that on a regular basis? Especially with a Club challenging for the highest honours...

The question would be which player could we bring in that would do an effective job in the left centre back position, bearing in mind that Vertonghen would be first choice?

The closest that I can get to that is Kieran Tierney of Celtic. He can play both left wing-back as well as left centre. If Rose goes then Tierney could be an effective alternative to Davies - as well as Vertonghen. He's young and he's got bags of upside.

 

[dtxspurs]

I don't see why Vertonghen would want to leave at this point. Tottenham Hotspur is a Club on the up. The point is that Vertonghen may very well get injured (or need a rest) and then what do we do? A left-sided centre back should be the greater priority than a replacement for Alderweireld. I know that Davies can play that role in a pinch but is he good enough to do that on a regular basis? Especially with a Club challenging for the highest honours...

The question would be which player could we bring in that would do an effective job in the left centre back position, bearing in mind that Vertonghen would be first choice?

The closest that I can get to that is Kieran Tierney of Celtic. He can play both left wing-back as well as left centre. If Rose goes then Tierney could be an effective alternative to Davies - as well as Vertonghen. He's young and he's got bags of upside.

I've never heard of Tierney playing in the middle. There are plenty of other quality left footed CB's out there rather than buying a LB out of the Scottish league and moving his position.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

I don't see why Vertonghen would want to leave at this point. Tottenham Hotspur is a Club on the up. The point is that Vertonghen may very well get injured (or need a rest) and then what do we do? A left-sided centre back should be the greater priority than a replacement for Alderweireld. I know that Davies can play that role in a pinch but is he good enough to do that on a regular basis? Especially with a Club challenging for the highest honours...

The question would be which player could we bring in that would do an effective job in the left centre back position, bearing in mind that Vertonghen would be first choice?

The closest that I can get to that is Kieran Tierney of Celtic. He can play both left wing-back as well as left centre. If Rose goes then Tierney could be an effective alternative to Davies - as well as Vertonghen. He's young and he's got bags of upside.

Laporte had always been my go-to replacement for Vertonghen on FM. I guess Pep plays FM too.

 

[Jospur]

I've never heard of Tierney playing in the middle. There are plenty of other quality left footed CB's out there rather than buying a LB out of the Scottish league and moving his position.

I think you'll find that he does play in the centre...

 

[Jospur]

Laporte had always been my go-to replacement for Vertonghen on FM. I guess Pep plays FM too.

So now Laporte is with City who would you see as a viable alternative to Vertonghen for next season?

 

[dtxspurs]

I think you'll find that he does play in the centre...

Transfermarkt shows he's played there five times this season, one in a UCL qualifier in July, one in a Scottish League Cup game and three in the league.

 

[EQP]

So now Laporte is with City who would you see as a viable alternative to Vertonghen for next season?

Malang Sarr
Clement Lenglet
Jorge Mere
Benjamin Parvard

All younger players who are comfortable as LCB who have the potential to be world class CB's.

 

[coys200]

If it’s about trophies. City is only club that guarantees it, United certainly doesn’t. Even if he went abroad it’s only really Barcelona, Madrid are miles off right now. Or go to a Mickey Mouse league with PSG or Bayern. It’s not exactly a huge choice. I don’t really get it from his side if I’m honest. He could become a club legend with his buddy vertonghen and easily win stuff with us. Unless you’re going to city I really don’t see the grass is greener.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

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All I've seen from the boy is pure promise.

What aspects you concerned about?

I just haven't seen him enough, in real testing conditions, to be convinced about anything. He looks technically sound, but whether he can defend when the real bullets of the PL are flying is a whole different matter.

 

[Jospur]

Malang Sarr
Clement Lenglet
Jorge Mere
Benjamin Parvard

All younger players who are comfortable as LCB who have the potential to be world class CB's.

Thanks. Interesting. Haven't heard of any of them - but will take the time to have a look.

 

[scat1620]

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All I've seen from the boy is pure promise.

What aspects you concerned about?

Not speaking for Beece, but personally I'd still be worried if we had to play Foyth against a big, strong physical striker. I expect him to grow bigger and stronger in the years to come, but if we had to chuck him into games in the near future then honestly I'd be worried about him getting bullied if he came up against one of the league's more physical strikers.

To be clear it's not a problem that I don't think will be solved naturally as he gets older, but at this moment his slight build is a bit of a concern for me if we had to play him regularly in the first team.

 

[npearl4spurs]

We're going to sell Toby for 40-50m this year and put it into another extremely good midfielder or split it between striker and midfielder.

 

[Hercules]

I have been very reliably informed that we will replace Toby, and Poch wants a very strong centre three, with another quality option that does not include, and rely on Dier. Foyth is not seen to be ready for that role. Forget CCV? as we will listen to offers.

 

[thinktank]

I just haven't seen him enough, in real testing conditions, to be convinced about anything. He looks technically sound, but whether he can defend when the real bullets of the PL are flying is a whole different matter.

Mkay.

For me, there's every indication that the PL won't be a problem for him.

But, yes, time will tell.

 

[thinktank]

I have been very reliably informed that we will replace Toby, and Poch wants a very strong centre three, with another quality option that does not include, and rely on Dier. Foyth is not seen to be ready for that role. Forget CCV? as we will listen to offers.

Yeah, too slow/immobile.

Good luck to him, though.