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I'd be very surprised, but fingers crossed.Perhaps to us
I'd be very surprised, but fingers crossed.Perhaps to us
Sorry its hot and maybe i'm missing something...
If no one bought him at 25m , how on earth are we gonna get alot more now?
The way i see it is he is staying, not signing for us or anyone else ,and going on free next season, probably back to Ajax.
Yep, you're missing something for sure. All that's being said is that if we were to lose Alderweireld this summer (which both you, I and most other sentient beings think is not very likely at this point), then due to the expiration of the release clause then presumably any sale this summer (again: highly improbable) would likely be for more than £25m because Levy would be unlikely to sell Toby on anything other than his own terms, despite his deal expiring next year.
Have another beer.
I haven't checked just now, but I did look into it previously (as much as the Internet can be trusted on such matters), and I'm pretty sure that £150k p/w would put him in the top 5 earning CBs in the world. That's an extremely competitive offer.
Yes, but he's hoping that as a free-agent he can get a 10-15m signing-on bonus which makes a much bigger difference than a few 10s-k/week here versus there for someone towards their end of their career
Which he'd have probably earned by now if he'd accepted our original deal, without the drama. Football is strange.
Sess not good enough at fullback yet.. Rose needs to stayRoma are in huge debt so no way can they afford to completely write off the best part of £50m on a CB with no resale value (fee and 125k wages for 3 years at a minimum). Probably why they thought maybe they can get some money and Toby for Zanilo and make the best of a bad situation. At least this other chap is only 23 so they can recoup something further down the line.
I expect Toby to be lining up first game, I'd be fine selling Rose and Trippier, using that money for Sessengon (with a bit of change for Lo Celso) and starting the season with 2 of Aurier/KWP/Foyth and Davies/ Sessengon as fullbacks, providing we keep the core of Toby and Jan. Unless an opportunity for a real proven upgrade (Digne) comes about
Big clubs just rarely buy old defenders. Look across Europe.. Barca, Madrid, Bayern, City, United, PSG, Pool, etc all go for players around 25 or under.Maybe other clubs look at him as we did (at the start of the thread). He's slow, can make mistakes, and hardly ever scores. He needs at least one good quality DM in front of him.
Add to that perhaps that he is a much better player as part of the team with his long term partner Vertonghen. On his own... not so much.
Just maybe ManU genuinely rate Maguire as X3 the player Alderweireld is.
Of course we don't see things that way (any more), but we wouldn't would we?
Maybe other clubs look at him as we did (at the start of the thread). He's slow, can make mistakes, and hardly ever scores
Toby is very rarely chasing down any attackers. That’s what makes him so good. His positional awareness is fantastic.he is looking a lot slower tbh
Toby is very rarely chasing down any attackers. That’s what makes him so good. His positional awareness is fantastic.
Towards the end of last season we had Trippier beside him who was awful and exposed our defence. We also didn’t have an out and out defensive midfielder shielding our defence. Dier/Wanyama constantly injured and the only real protection they had was Sissoko for large parts of the season.100%, class player, but has seemed to be getting caught out more regularly towards the end of last season and friendly the other day.
edit: poor goal scoring record, too
It’s just pre season and he’s most likely not up to speed/full fitness yet. I remember last season when he had time out through injury then returned and looked terrible first game against lower league opposition in a domestic cup game.
100%, class player, but has seemed to be getting caught out more regularly towards the end of last season and friendly the other day.
edit: poor goal scoring record, too