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Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

PLTuck

Eternal Optimist
Aug 22, 2006
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Despite his jovial and likeable manner, Poch has shown on more than one occasion that he is utterly ruthless if you aren't 100% behind the cause.

He's already got one foot out the door I think. Poch is handling it in exactly the right way.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Mirror linking him with Chelsea today. For no other reason than we play them tomorrow I suspect. Nobody falls for that anymore.
 

Rob

The Boss
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Jun 8, 2003
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I reckon he's burnt his bridges with Poch.

Poch put his head on the line with Levy and argued to give Toby what he wanted. After it was all sorted and agreed, Toby upped his demands.
 

bubble07

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Dec 27, 2004
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I think the Club and Levy’s model will always be if a player gets to 27-30 and he thinks he can get top dollar and get a younger replacement of equal calibre he will take the money. Obviously won’t be every player, if you lose 1 a season like this can you maintain impetus, remains to be seen.

And because of that we will always be considered a young side and every interview from the players and manager will bleat the same shit. But we are still a young side etc. Unless we have PL experienced players at their peak we will not win the league
 

yankspurs

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Aug 22, 2013
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Carve and copy of the Kyle Walker situation here.
Slowly been moved to the side in all aspects now.
Not first choice, not training consistently, not working hard enough, no favours or fast track back.
No more cup games for him either now.

Really setting Toby, the club and the fans up for his exit in my opinion.

A shame though especially if it is all contract driven. Not great to lose a world class CB for his prime years regardless
Toby wants out. Thats why this is happening now. If he didnt, he’d have been fast tracked back. But he does want out so he’s getting the Kyle Walker treatment except our replacement is better than Walker’s replacement was so its not as glaringly obvious that we’re downgrading in crunch time due to a wantaway like it was last year.
 

yankspurs

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Aug 22, 2013
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Sadly I'm not sure we'll see him in our shirt again
Im not sad about it. He doesnt want to be with us anymore. So good luck to him. So long. He’s been injured for about half the season but that hasnt stopped his team kicking up contract stuff with the media. 2 long term injuries in 2 years also. Sad how its ended with the injuries but toby’s actions are hardly doing himself any favors with the fans IMO.
 

danielneeds

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May 5, 2004
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Toby wants out. Thats why this is happening now. If he didnt, he’d have been fast tracked back. But he does want out so he’s getting the Kyle Walker treatment except our replacement is better than Walker’s replacement was so its not as glaringly obvious that we’re downgrading in crunch time due to a wantaway like it was last year.
It’s pretty obvious he’s been tapped up by some moneybags.
 

sherbornespurs

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Dec 9, 2006
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Carve and copy of the Kyle Walker situation here.
Slowly been moved to the side in all aspects now.
Not first choice, not training consistently, not working hard enough, no favours or fast track back.
No more cup games for him either now.

Really setting Toby, the club and the fans up for his exit in my opinion.

A shame though especially if it is all contract driven. Not great to lose a world class CB for his prime years regardless

His team mates must be really cut up he's about to leave.....
 

rajmak

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Is it still typical of Spurs that in this day and age we still lose one of our best players due to wages? How confident are others we will agree new deals for the likes of Kane, Alli or Erickson if they want to be paid what they believe is their market rate in wages?
 

jimbo

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Dec 22, 2003
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Is it still typical of Spurs that in this day and age we still lose one of our best players due to wages? How confident are others we will agree new deals for the likes of Kane, Alli or Erickson if they want to be paid what they believe is their market rate in wages?

Rob's post above is enlightening.

If a player asks for more money, and you agree to give them what they've asked for, and then they say that they want even more money on top of that, where do you draw the line?
 

WiganSpur

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Aug 31, 2012
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I agree with Poch on this. No divine right to play just because it's a World Cup year. Exactly the same applies to Vertonghen and Davinson Sanchez who are playing for Colombia and Belgium respectively.


If he's not fit enough then he's not a better option than JV, Sanchez or Dier so therefore he shouldn't be playing.
 

Rout-Ledge

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I'm impressed with the way Poch has dealt with this situation. Though I am concerned that after four years of retaining our best players we'll have sold an important first teamer two summers running.
 

WiganSpur

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I'm impressed with the way Poch has dealt with this situation. Though I am concerned that after four years of retaining our best players we'll have sold an important first teamer two summers running.
I'd normally agree but there's definitely mitigating factors in this case.

-His contract is running down. Realistically this is the last chance we're gonna have to get a sizeable fee for him

-It seems like he doesn't want to be here

-He's actually been quite injury prone in the last couple of years and isn't getting any younger

-We've already got great players in his position. Argument this wasn't quite the case with Walker. At least we won't all be having heart attacks this summer as to whether we get a top CB in because of what we already have

It's disappointing but selling him has to be put under consideration now for those reasons above.
 

Japhet

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I'm not as convinced as some that we'd get a huge fee for him. When he played at the start of the season he didn't look the same player as in previous seasons and was much more error prone. The minutes he's played since his injury haven't been anything special either for us or Belgium and I think that's as big a part of him not playing as anything that's going on behind the scenes. If we want a top fee for him he'll need to perform well but at the moment it seems like he can't.
 
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