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Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

aussiespursguy

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I'm on a United forum and a lot still don't want him as they don't see him as a winner, I can quote them if you like. Whats the image cause I don't get it lol.

Find it hard to justify Potchettino considering he's yet to win anything and has consistently allowed Spurs to do a 'Spurs' in big games. His game management is suspect.

Would stay away from Pochettino. Last time we got ourselves a decent PL proven manager who was supposed to do better with our funds didn't end up doing too well.

Pochettino is so far a serial loser and i'm sure when people mention Allegri they're only basing this on Watching Juve in the CL, he's another pragmatic manager, did anyone watch the Napoli game, worse than any Mourhino game this season.

Poch would be a waste at a top club. He's proven he can build a talented squad on a small budget, and deserves a lot of credit for it, but so far he's not shown any signs of being able to push on and win anything with that talent.
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DogsOfWar

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I'm not sure the age discounting the price is relevant to the 'big clubs' as that is the reason they are buying him in the first place.
They want an experienced 29 year old who is at the top of their game and will pay the expected price for that.
I wouldn't be surprised to see us get £60 million or more for him if he's in demand.
 

BigPlimpton

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I'm not sure the age discounting the price is relevant to the 'big clubs' as that is the reason they are buying him in the first place.
They want an experienced 29 year old who is at the top of their game and will pay the expected price for that.
I wouldn't be surprised to see us get £60 million or more for him if he's in demand.

I would certainly hope that it would be a swap for Martial (if he goes to United) or if he goes a Spanish club, that it would be at least £60m. I don't actually want Martial, personally, but I think a swap makes the best of a bad situation if the Spanish clubs don't bite at a good value and Man U is the only strong bidder, and that there would at least be some excitement and positive energy in and around the squad to bringing in a player of Martial's caliber.

The £45m number quoted in the latest tabloid press is ridiculous. At that price, I would SO much rather keep Toby for another year and let him go wherever for £25m next year. I would look at that £20m lost as a completely worthwhile investment in two things: (i) giving us world class depth at center half for another title challenge next season, and (ii) sending a message to the squad that we don't NEED to sell for cash, and won't sell unless the player simply isn't wanted anymore and the transaction improves the club.

Would so much rather see him sulking on our bench for a year and stepping in for Jan or Dav if one goes down to an injury than see him leading United to a 2019 title, even if it costs us £20m. That's absolutely nothing in today's transfer market and Toby would be extremely valuable depth.
 
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CoopsieDeadpool

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Just announced he’s having a baby


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mugpunt

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I would certainly hope that it would be a swap for Martial (if he goes to United) or if he goes a Spanish club, that it would be at least £60m. I don't actually want Martial, personally, but I think a swap makes the best of a bad situation if the Spanish clubs don't bite at a good value and Man U is the only strong bidder, and that there would at least be some excitement and positive energy in and around the squad to bringing in a player of Martial's caliber.

The £45m number quoted in the latest tabloid press is ridiculous. At that price, I would SO much rather keep Toby for another year and let him go wherever for £25m next year. I would look at that £20m lost as a completely worthwhile investment in two things: (i) giving us world class depth at center half for another title challenge next season, and (ii) sending a message to the squad that we don't NEED to sell for cash, and won't sell unless the player simply isn't wanted anymore and the transaction improves the club.

Would so much rather see him sulking on our bench for a year and stepping in for Jan or Dav if one goes down to an injury than see him leading United to a 2019 title, even if it costs us £20m. That's absolutely nothing in today's transfer market and Toby would be extremely valuable depth.

100% agree for this regards to Man U, but from abroad I’d take the 45 and buy a younger model (Not much less though, as at sub 40 I wouldn’t even sell abroad).

To add a couple more point of context I believe the release clause is not 25m sterling but 30m Euro so nearer 26m sterling and we’d be saving about 5m sterling on his wages v a comparable world class cb next year so the actual potential ‘loss’ were we to take this route is nearer 9m. Factor in the fact that he may resign as he becomes far less valuable at 30 next year to the super clubs after 2 years playing in reserve and it’s a no brainer that the bidding to Man U isn’t entertained till the higher end of the 50’s.

But all that being said, if we are ‘brave’ and buy his replacement early it makes this kind of financial juggling moot as we will likely need to recoup the money for our cash flow most likely
 

Everlasting Seconds

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The way it works for some clubs, they don't care about the present price tags in relation to how long they'll benefit from the player or what they can get him for next summer. They pay based on how important the player is/might be for the upcoming season. Alderweireld will easily fetch incredible sums of money.
 

WiganSpur

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I would certainly hope that it would be a swap for Martial (if he goes to United) or if he goes a Spanish club, that it would be at least £60m. I don't actually want Martial, personally, but I think a swap makes the best of a bad situation if the Spanish clubs don't bite at a good value and Man U is the only strong bidder, and that there would at least be some excitement and positive energy in and around the squad to bringing in a player of Martial's caliber.

The £45m number quoted in the latest tabloid press is ridiculous. At that price, I would SO much rather keep Toby for another year and let him go wherever for £25m next year. I would look at that £20m lost as a completely worthwhile investment in two things: (i) giving us world class depth at center half for another title challenge next season, and (ii) sending a message to the squad that we don't NEED to sell for cash, and won't sell unless the player simply isn't wanted anymore and the transaction improves the club.

Would so much rather see him sulking on our bench for a year and stepping in for Jan or Dav if one goes down to an injury than see him leading United to a 2019 title, even if it costs us £20m. That's absolutely nothing in today's transfer market and Toby would be extremely valuable depth.
I actually agreed a while ago that the best option could be to keep him for one more season and take a £20m or so hit. Unfortunately the idea of this to Levy would give him a heart attack. Not gonna happen i'm afraid. If there's a bidder over £40m, he is gone I think.
 
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