Luis Figo ?
Player watch: Toby Alderweireld
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Luis Figo ?
Colonel Dax
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Sterling: At the time Liverpool were 6th in the league and City 2nd. Whereas we finished only 1 place and 4 points behind Utd this season.
Chamberlain: Arsenal are a prime example of how not to operate a football club. Selling their best players over the years has left them out of the top 4 and we shouldn't try to emulate them.
Matic: again not comparable to the Toby situation. Rather bizarrely Chelsea let him go willingly as they thought (misguidedly) they were upgrading their midfield.
Colonel Dax
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The standard response from laughing boy.
Rout-Ledge
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If he really doesn’t want to be here then let him go, but if he’s willing to sign a new deal then that’s good enough for me. I wouldn’t call him injury prone, either. He’s had one bad injury. And 29 is entering peak years for a defender. Jan is two years older.
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All clubs sold to a rival when the money was right, not sure any of your post or reasoning changes that.
CoopsieDeadpool
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I did say "I think we all know that, if a player is happy at Barcelona, and Barclona are happy with the player, no club can entice him away."
So, if both Barcelona & the player wanted Figo to stay, no way in hell he'd have ended up at Madrid. However, it was far from a normal transfer & really not comparable to anything that's being discussed here....
Figo's agent was literally bribed by Florentino Perez. He offered Figo £1.6mil just to sign a contract that stated he'd sign for Madrid if Perez won the election for president, but Figo could keep the money if the election was lost. Figo and his agent saw this as an easy money opportunity and wanted to use it as leverage to get a better contract at Barcelona because Figo didn't exactly want to leave. At the time, Pérez little chance of winning the elections, so Figo had nothing to lose.
When the deal went public, all hell broke loose. Luis Figo, thinking that he would not have to move, denied the whole thing and even stated that 'I am not mad to do something like that'. He claimed that Florentino Pérez was fabricating the story and assured Barcelona fans that he would remain at Camp Nou the following season.
Lorenzo Sanz, just like others, dismissed this news as a publicity stunt but Pérez pledged it was true and revealed if he wins and Figo doesn't sign, all the Real Madrid members would go to the Bernabeau for free in the following campaign. He made such a statement on the back of the clause which was inserted in Figo's contract stating Figo would pay £19 million as compensation if he did not sign for Real Madrid
Florentino Pérez, to everyone's surprise, won the club elections. Luis Figo's buyout clause was then set at a world record fee of £38 million but for this deal, it was a bargain.
Barcelona had club elections of their own won by former director Juan Gaspart who was left with only one choice; to pay their most hated rivals the equivalent of fifth highest transfer fee at the time for their own player.
Juan Gaspart stated, 'I couldn't do it! pay Real Madrid fans to watch them every week, I would die instead.'
Figo was later presented to the public with his jersey handed over by Alfredo Di Stefano.
https://www.sportskeeda.com/footbal...e-dirty-politics-behind-the-world-record-move
Colonel Dax
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We'll have to agree to disagree.
LexingtonSpurs
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He has missed time in 3 of the last 4 seasons - averaging 26 league matches played over that period.
At his age, players rarely get healthier...
1882andallthat
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Barcelona couldn't keep Neymar, Arsenal managed to keep Sanchez running his contract down right to the bitter end and got a swap deal with Utd. There is no reason why we can't do all we can to get a swap deal with Utd for Martial, I cannot believe we wouldn't get bids from at least one of PSG Barca or RM for Toby similar to what Man Utd are offering if Utd won't swap Martial. Let Man Utd do all the worrying and panicking when others come in and they think he is going to slip through their fingers, they may soon think twice about refusing a swap deal if City start sniffing around and wading in with their size 9s and a bid that exceeds what Man Utd have to offer.
It's not like we are desperate and we're struggling for alternative suitors, he is a quality player and I'm sure others will come in.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44240320
Manchester United have made enquiries about Tottenham defender Toby Alderweireld and Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Fred.
The two players would cost United a combined fee in excess of £100m as manager Jose Mourinho seeks to strengthen the spine of his team.
Alderweireld's future at Tottenham is in doubt, with no agreement in place to extend his contract at the club.
United defender Matteo Darmian, meanwhile, is interesting Juventus.
The Italian, 28, has a year left on his contract and started only five Premier League games for United during the season just completed.
Along with Daley Blind and Luke Shaw, Darmian has little future at the club as Mourinho, who signed a new contract in January that will keep him at Old Trafford until at least 2020, seeks reinforcements.
United finished second in the Premier League - their highest placing since Sir Alex Ferguson retired in 2013 - but were 19 points behind champions Manchester City.
Belgium defender Alderweireld and Brazil midfielder Fred have both been selected for their World Cup squads, meaning that unless deals can be done within the next fortnight, they are likely to have to wait until after the tournament.
Alderweireld, 29, was involved in just six Tottenham games after declaring he had recovered from a hamstring injury in January, having failed to force his way back into the team.
The defender, one of the few senior players that head coach Maurico Pochettino is willing to lose, has a contract that is set to expire in 12 months' time, but there is the option of a one-year extension. If that were activated, a clause within it would allow him to leave for £25m at the end of next season.
Fred, 25, has been heavily linked with Manchester City ,but they have since turned their attentions to Napoli midfielder Jorginho, leaving the way clear for United to negotiate with Shakhtar.
Rinat Akhmetov, Shakhtar's president, has indicated that Fred will cost more than the £34m that Manchester City paid for Fernandinho in 2013, and the reported £43.8m that allowed midfielder Alex Teixeira to join Chinese club Jiangsu Suning in 2016.
"We will sell Fred to a good and strong club, do not doubt it," Akhmetov told the Great Football program on Ukraine's Football 1. told the Great Football program on Ukraine's Football 1.
"He will cost the potential buyer more than Fernandinho and be even more expensive than Alex Teixeira."
Mourinho still hopes midfielder Marouane Fellaini will sign a new contract, although the Belgian has yet to make a final decision and hopes are receding at Old Trafford that he will stay now that he can leave for nothing.
Manchester United have made enquiries about Tottenham defender Toby Alderweireld and Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Fred.
The two players would cost United a combined fee in excess of £100m as manager Jose Mourinho seeks to strengthen the spine of his team.
Alderweireld's future at Tottenham is in doubt, with no agreement in place to extend his contract at the club.
United defender Matteo Darmian, meanwhile, is interesting Juventus.
The Italian, 28, has a year left on his contract and started only five Premier League games for United during the season just completed.
Along with Daley Blind and Luke Shaw, Darmian has little future at the club as Mourinho, who signed a new contract in January that will keep him at Old Trafford until at least 2020, seeks reinforcements.
United finished second in the Premier League - their highest placing since Sir Alex Ferguson retired in 2013 - but were 19 points behind champions Manchester City.
Belgium defender Alderweireld and Brazil midfielder Fred have both been selected for their World Cup squads, meaning that unless deals can be done within the next fortnight, they are likely to have to wait until after the tournament.
Alderweireld, 29, was involved in just six Tottenham games after declaring he had recovered from a hamstring injury in January, having failed to force his way back into the team.
The defender, one of the few senior players that head coach Maurico Pochettino is willing to lose, has a contract that is set to expire in 12 months' time, but there is the option of a one-year extension. If that were activated, a clause within it would allow him to leave for £25m at the end of next season.
Fred, 25, has been heavily linked with Manchester City ,but they have since turned their attentions to Napoli midfielder Jorginho, leaving the way clear for United to negotiate with Shakhtar.
Rinat Akhmetov, Shakhtar's president, has indicated that Fred will cost more than the £34m that Manchester City paid for Fernandinho in 2013, and the reported £43.8m that allowed midfielder Alex Teixeira to join Chinese club Jiangsu Suning in 2016.
"We will sell Fred to a good and strong club, do not doubt it," Akhmetov told the Great Football program on Ukraine's Football 1. told the Great Football program on Ukraine's Football 1.
"He will cost the potential buyer more than Fernandinho and be even more expensive than Alex Teixeira."
Mourinho still hopes midfielder Marouane Fellaini will sign a new contract, although the Belgian has yet to make a final decision and hopes are receding at Old Trafford that he will stay now that he can leave for nothing.
CoopsieDeadpool
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Mate, check out the ITK sections of the site. It seems like Alderweireld & his advisors have well and truly shot themselves in the foot & pretty much nobody (at the moment) is interested in Toby, and nobody is interested in paying the salary that he and his father have been demanding.
In a word (or 3) , They've fucked themselves.
Karma is a bitch!
1882andallthat
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Whilst ITK info is sometimes useful it isn't always accurate, when push comes to shove transfers often have twists and turns and other clubs have a habit of coming in to try to scupper things or put in rival bids so whose to say Man Utd won't be the only show in town when it comes to Toby. I agree that his agents / advisers have acted badly but that doesn't mean to say that these clubs who have initally backed away won't come in when the real negotiations get going. I hope they do and none of us should be surprised if they do, as it's not as if it's not happened before in Spurs and non Spurs transfers.
Monkey boy
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You must be crazy if you think that none of the big boys will pay him £150k+ a week. They’re big clubs with pretty much unlimited resources, If Utd pay Luke Shaw £120k a week they’ll pay Toby the £150k
Lilbaz
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I think it is more they are not prepared to meet the price we've set.
Japhet
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The ITK says not much interest, but it's early days yet. Wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't get the wages he's after though.
George94
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If nobody else is willing to pay Toby £200k or whatever he was demanding, and he's needing to come back down to asking for the wage we originally offered, surely we'd be better off with him just signing another contract with us?
No point in cutting our nose off to spite our own face - he is top draw and would be a massive loss for us and massive gain for anyone who buys him...
All very well thinking we're having the last laugh by telling him to go fuck himself, but we're only weakening the squad? Just a thought...
No point in cutting our nose off to spite our own face - he is top draw and would be a massive loss for us and massive gain for anyone who buys him...
All very well thinking we're having the last laugh by telling him to go fuck himself, but we're only weakening the squad? Just a thought...
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Bridge has been burned by the sounds of things. Successful clubs don’t back down on things like this and rightly so
CoopsieDeadpool
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The squad is already weakened by him making it known he doesn't want to be part of it. He's made his bed & it's tough shit if he doesn't find it to his comfort.
belsunz
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True. So disappointing to conclude once again that the career of talented footballers is often jeopardized by greedy agents/entourage. This shines down on Toby as well: being a Belgian, I followed him pretty much since he made his debut at Ajax. Always thought he was an intelligent, hard-working and level-headed individual. Reading the recent ITK of Hercules and the previous whispers, I just cannot feel too much sympathy for him anymore.
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