Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

[djee]

We're getting 60m quid back.

Indeed - it isn't exactly like we are just giving him away!

A player who we want out, who has a 25m release clause next year and wouldn't be used by Poch if he stayed. There wasn't even a bidding war for him FFS. What do people want??

 

[archiewasking]

Even better, losing a non home grown player gets Vinny one spot closer to staying and becoming a legend ??

 

[RichieS]

Indeed - it isn't exactly like we are just giving him away!

A player who we want out, who has a 25m release clause next year and wouldn't be used by Poch if he stayed. There wasn't even a bidding war for him FFS. What do people want??

 

[bat-chain]

I'd actually be gutted if they offered 60m and we didn’t take it.

Yes he's a very good player but sometimes the right thing to do isn’t particularly fun. Long term this is the right deal for Spurs.

 

[ghjk_91]

Indeed - it isn't exactly like we are just giving him away!

A player who we want out, who has a 25m release clause next year and wouldn't be used by Poch if he stayed. There wasn't even a bidding war for him FFS. What do people want??

I don't think it's a logical reaction; imo it's just disappointment that we've lost another key player to a rival. The frustration is understandable, even if it's good for the club overall.

The fan base is desperate to win things NOW, and sales like this just make it more difficult. We've made so much progress over the last few years that people may have convinced themselves we're a bigger club than we actually are, deals like this prove we still have some way to go.

 

[djee]

I don't think it's a logical reaction; imo it's just disappointment that we've lost another key player to a rival. The frustration is understandable, even if it's good for the club overall.

The fan base is desperate to win things NOW, and sales like this just make it more difficult. We've made so much progress over the last few years that people may have convinced themselves we're a bigger club than we actually are, deals like this prove we still have some way to go.

I am gutted that he is likely to leave. Loved him for us but what options are left when Poch wants him out. Also, this will be an unpopular statement but Utd are a bigger club than us - in fact, arguably the biggest club in the world on several metrics. We do have a long way to go. The window may be disappointing right now and hell, we may suffer (relatively speaking) for the next couple of seasons but, the progress made in the past decade has far exceeded my expectations and I assume, most fans expectations. It may grate with some, understandably, but the infrastructure around the club will make us so strong in years to come and competitive to a degree we have not witnessed yet. Short term growing pains, substantial long-term gains.

 

[wiggo24]

"Big club with ambition".

 

[djee]

Also, cannot compare the Carrick deal to this. At the time, Carrick was a central component of our team - a team that lacked any real established stars other than him. Toby, although a great player, does not start ahead of our current CBs.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

United also want either Mina OR Maguire - tagged on the end of that piece about the Willian and Martial swap deal ... There is also a story about Zaha to Chelsea aswell ... That is a fucking mess of a transfer story page. It is literally like throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks.

You mean a spoiled Pot Noodle

 

[djee]

"Big club with ambition".

Name a club that (without financial doping) has had a greater rise than us in world football in the past decade? Name a club that has invested more in growth than us in that timeframe? Spurs are incredibly ambitious and getting bigger by the season.

 

[stormfly]

They won’t sell their best players to us but we’ll sell our best players to them. Strange way to run a business especially as the player we want from them is in a similar position?

 

[St José Dominguez]

Love this idea of a person 'melting down' when in truth they're just typing words and posting them on a forum completely straight faced. Whether happy or furious we all are just typing words showing absolutely no decipherable emotion away from our screens. It's ironic that those whinging about fans reactions are showing themselves far more weak minded and unable to cope than the person apparently 'melting down'.

 

[djee]

They won’t sell their best players to us but we’ll sell our best players to them. Strange way to run a business especially as the player we want from them is in a similar position?

Yes, but they do not have the same pressure to sell as we did with Toby. We don't want to keep our player and are conscious that he has a release clause coming into effect if we sit on our hands. With no other bidders to better our position, I would say getting 60m for a 29-year-old player who won't start for us is a bloody incredible piece of business in the circumstances!

Also, whilst we sold Berba and Carrick before him to Utd, these players were unique in that they were genuinely head and shoulders above what we had. Toby is not. We also refused to sell Modric and Bale to Utd as another club - Madrid were there as an alternative (even taking reportedly less from them than what Utd offered). In this instance there are no other buyers.

 

[stormfly]

I’m pretty sure their player got his agent to say he wanted to leave? Don’t think Toby has done that yet unless I’ve missed it in the last few days?

 

[Primativ]

The only way it's acceptable that we sell Toby for 60 million, is that that money is reinvested immediately in the next 5 days into another top top quality player who can hit the ground running for us this season.

Whether that is CB, CM or WF, we better someone mouth watering lined up. Never in a million years did we envisage the summer we move into our new stadium we sell one of the best CBs in the league to a direct rival and fail to strengthen as it stands 5 days before the window closes.

 

[djee]

I’m pretty sure their player got his agent to say he wanted to leave? Don’t think Toby has done that yet unless I’ve missed it in the last few days?

I think one can infer from the ITK received, that things are less than harmonious between Toby, his agents (and family) and the club. That Toby hasn't publically said anything is not relevant really. End of the day, we want him out - that much is obvious. Also, an agent can say what he likes - it is the club's prerogative to sell or not!

 

[stormfly]

This has to be justified to the fans and public though. Not everyone is on this page and from the outside this looks like a terrible (small club) decision. It’s an easy way for everyone to point out we are still a small selling club,

 

[Ben1]

This has to be justified to the fans and public though. Not everyone is on this page and from the outside this looks like a terrible (small club) decision. It’s an easy way for everyone to point out we are still a small selling club,

I fully agree with this.

It's exactly what people will think or say. It's only on here that I've seen rumuors about him kicking up a fuss and doing 'unspeakable' things.

Media machine is in full motion over this one.

 

[Cavehillspur]

Chelsea will not take both, we will get one or the other

Ya think! Too expensive for us im afraid.

 

[piedpiper]

The only way it's acceptable that we sell Toby for 60 million, is that that money is reinvested immediately in the next 5 days into another top top quality player who can hit the ground running for us this season.

Whether that is CB, CM or WF, we better someone mouth watering lined up. Never in a million years did we envisage the summer we move into our new stadium we sell one of the best CBs in the league to a direct rival and fail to strengthen as it stands 5 days before the window closes.

There are a few of of us who saw that coming. Last year June and before. It was said "Levy has this under control" by some.

Posters are already applauding Levy on the £60 million business. Btw it is good business, but strenthgening a rival will NEVER sit well with me.

I've seen us go toe to toe with them over the last 4 yrs and even finishing above them over a 3 yr period. We conceded more goals last season because Toby was missing.

United have a player who wants out.. His agent actually went public on that. We couldn't do that deal.