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Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

SEANSPURS1975

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Toby, Sanchez and Vertonghen are an absolute formidable back three. I sincerely hope Pochettino goes back to this formation. Trippier, as seen in the World Cup, excels as a Wing-Back and can sometimes struggle as a Right-Back in a four.
Aurier is a complete and utter liability as a right back in a four and can never be trusted there. He would be better as a Wing-Back.
Also surely that tweet must mean Toby’s staying right???
Cannot wait for Toby to get back in this side.
 

rsmith

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Back 3 all the way for me. That would be formidable. Also, because Toby and Jan are more than capable at FB and can bring the ball out, it's not like we'd be a flat 3.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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Back 3 all the way for me. That would be formidable. Also, because Toby and Jan are more than capable at FB and can bring the ball out, it's not like we'd be a flat 3.

I'd play a back 3 in a fair few away games and against the other big boys in the league. If it's down to playing 3 at the back or playing the likes of Sissoko in centre mid, I know what I'd prefer
 

wrd

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I'd play a back 3 in a fair few away games and against the other big boys in the league. If it's down to playing 3 at the back or playing the likes of Sissoko in centre mid, I know what I'd prefer

It's pretty shambolic that if we drop a midfielder for a defender the quality of our passers actually improves.
 

Primativ

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He's still a much better CB than Sanchez to be honest. It isn't even that close. Sanchez has done great but Toby is the finished article.
 

Fredo

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I love the 3 at the back with Toby, Jan, Sanchez while Trippier at RWB but I just don't feel it is required against lesser teams, especially at home seeing as we're attacking for most of the game. However it should defo be used in the big away games and possibly some home games depending on the team.
 

Clark28

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For me, and I think most will agree, the thing most exciting about the 5-3-2 is Trippier at RWB. He’s on another level there.
yup, and hopefully would mean Poch will trust KWP, and give him some more minutes.

not holding my breath though
 

razzmaster

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5-3-2 is a perfect fit for our squad and would allow us to give Kane more support up front. We could also sell Gazzaniga, Aurier, Sissoko, Nkoudou, Janssen and Llorente and still not be any weaker. Keeping Toby, Rose and Dembele would be massive, especially if we can get Toby to sign a new deal.
 

ebzrascal

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352 when playing top teams and 4231 when we know we will dominate...

I would also like to experiment with 433 with a more fluid attack and solid midfield for certain games
 

Primativ

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How would anyone one know? Certainly not on the evidence of the last year...

Mate you are crazy thinking Sanchez is on par with Toby. You either haven't watched Toby at all the last few seasons or you are massively over rating Sanchez. I am a huge fan of Sanchez but he is still raw. Toby is the finished article.
 

danielneeds

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I love the 3 at the back with Toby, Jan, Sanchez while Trippier at RWB but I just don't feel it is required against lesser teams, especially at home seeing as we're attacking for most of the game. However it should defo be used in the big away games and possibly some home games depending on the team.
The biggest fucking misnomer in football is that the more attacking players you have on the pitch, the more goals you score. If that's the case, why not three strikers and four attacking midfielders?

You score more goals, when you have the best balance to your side, and can control the game most efficiently. Personally i think when Toby and Jan can push up the right and left channels in the three at the back system, they are more dangerous creatively than most of our midfielders. That's not to mention, letting Trippier concentrate on crossing, rather than defending.
 
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BringBack_leGin

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The biggest fucking misnomer in football is that the more attacking players you have on the pitch, the more goals you score. If that's the case, why not three strikers and four attacking midfielders?

You score more goals, when you have the best balance to your side, and can control the game most efficiently. Personally i think when Toby and Jan can push up the right and left channels in the three at the back system, they are more dangerously creatively than most of our midfielders. That's not to mention, letting Trippier concentrate on crossing, rather than defending.
I think in a 433 Vertonghen and Alderweireld could still do that, with Dier dropping back from anchor to split them. Puyol and Pique were the original splitting centre backs in Peps 433 with Busquets or Toure splitting them and nobody since had done it better.
 

knilly

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Apr 12, 2005
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The biggest fucking misnomer in football is that the more attacking players you have on the pitch, the more goals you score. If that's the case, why not three strikers and four attacking midfielders?

You score more goals, when you have the best balance to your side, and can control the game most efficiently. Personally i think when Toby and Jan can push up the right and left channels in the three at the back system, they are more dangerously creatively than most of our midfielders. That's not to mention, letting Trippier concentrate on crossing, rather than defending.
Have to agree with this

Jan and Toby become essentially defensive midfielders when we have the ball, safe to go a little further forward having to centre half’s behind them.
 

danielneeds

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I think in a 433 Vertonghen and Alderweireld could still do that, with Dier dropping back from anchor to split them. Puyol and Pique were the original splitting centre backs in Peps 433 with Busquets or Toure splitting them and nobody since had done it better.
Without Walker's pace we need Sanchez on the cover when we're squeezing up, otherwise we're wide open to balls over the top.
 

punkisback

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I love the 3 at the back with Toby, Jan, Sanchez while Trippier at RWB but I just don't feel it is required against lesser teams, especially at home seeing as we're attacking for most of the game. However it should defo be used in the big away games and possibly some home games depending on the team.
I agree, I can still picture Poch playing that with Dier and Wanyama at CM. Too play a back 3 you need a deep plying playmaker in CM.
 
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