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Player watch: Toby Alderweireld

piedpiper

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Aug 14, 2008
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excuse me was you a sleep for the 2017/18 season?

Wanyama only played 13 games, 9 of those as sub

No I wasn't asleep but Wanyama and more importantly Dier played that season. Sanchez was fine in defence he just wasn't better than Toby. We conceded less but it was due to having Dier or Wanyama shielding our defence.
 

Frozen_Waffles

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Still hoping he will stay, i know itk says burnt bridges and all but surely we can at least say a one year extension and back pay for year and up his wages significantly is well worth it for a player of his caliber.

Even keep his release clause in.

He has been a professional on the pitch and has not said publicly that he wants to leave.

Would be a huge boost and surely worth it for him. In two years he is on a free and he can get the cash still as well as being incredibly well paid for his services to the club.
 

Lighty64

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Aug 24, 2010
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No I wasn't asleep but Wanyama and more importantly Dier played that season. Sanchez was fine in defence he just wasn't better than Toby. We conceded less but it was due to having Dier or Wanyama shielding our defence.

unless he plays regular and in a formation that suits him he will struggle to improve. Wanyama made was injured the majority of the season but was part of our best season.

so your giving Sanchez no credit because he had Dier and Wanyama a few times in front of him, but our best season that had Wanyama all season, and Dier in a back 3 was all down to the brilliance of Toby, but last season a bad season for our defence was because we had no Dier or Wanyama. perhaps Toby isn't as good then unless he has protection.
 

Lighty64

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Aug 24, 2010
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Still hoping he will stay, i know itk says burnt bridges and all but surely we can at least say a one year extension and back pay for year and up his wages significantly is well worth it for a player of his caliber.

Even keep his release clause in.

He has been a professional on the pitch and has not said publicly that he wants to leave.

Would be a huge boost and surely worth it for him. In two years he is on a free and he can get the cash still as well as being incredibly well paid for his services to the club.

it depends on how bad the fall out was at the time. yes we used him last season but that might of been so different if we could of got any of Poch's targets like de Ligt. also with injuries through out meant it was all hands to the pump all season.

hopefully the truth will come out about the fall out and people will see why no effort has been made, but all the murmurs from ITK last summer, and JJ saying that if Toby gets a new contract, then Poch won't stay might make people wake up
 

oskathegobshite

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Jan 20, 2004
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I have a feeling both will stay. Can't really explain why it's just starting to feel that way. Alderweireld for sure I think will be here one more year. I reckon he ends up at Juventus on a free next summer.
 

PT

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I have a feeling both will stay. Can't really explain why it's just starting to feel that way. Alderweireld for sure I think will be here one more year. I reckon he ends up at Juventus on a free next summer.
My thoughts are he would end up back at Ajax.
 

piedpiper

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unless he plays regular and in a formation that suits him he will struggle to improve. Wanyama made was injured the majority of the season but was part of our best season.

so your giving Sanchez no credit because he had Dier and Wanyama a few times in front of him, but our best season that had Wanyama all season, and Dier in a back 3 was all down to the brilliance of Toby, but last season a bad season for our defence was because we had no Dier or Wanyama. perhaps Toby isn't as good then unless he has protection.

Dier wasn't a few times in that season. I'm not anti Sanchez or any player for that matter. I just offered a different perfectly plausible explanation why we conceded less goals that season vs the season just passed. It wasn't just about Sanchez and Verts ad per your original point.

I haven't googled it but you will find Dier played over 40 games that season or very close to that. The season just passed Dier and Wanyama didnt even make 30 combine appearances due to their injuries.
 

JKendall13

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You can bitch and moan all you would like but it’s clear Alderweireld is moving this summer or next. Great player, loved watching him. On to the next one, get a good replacement in or promote internally.
 

yankspurs

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Aug 22, 2013
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What in the world is their director doing? Coming out publicly saying you want to save money on this when its a £25m release clause? You cant afford £25m for a top defender?!?!?
 

Ben1

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I wonder what Roma's game is here. You take the piss guys, but if a player has a set price of 25mil and it doesn't matter one jot if you lowball/upset his club, why wouldn't you try to negotiate below the fixed price? Especially with so little competition it seems.

No idea whether that's their plan though. Part of me thinks so. Part of me thinks that these second level Italian clubs love to talk to keep themselves relevant and they probably can't afford it. Nevertheless, they will shout from the rooftops about how they tried and the English club/player was just unreasonable.
 

arunspurs

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Aug 31, 2012
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From what I have read from past ITKs , once Toby & his father/agent reneged after agreeing the deal, there has not been a contract offer from us. To me ,its either sold this season or him leaving on a free transfer next season. No chance of a extension deal IMO.

No wonder, other clubs are playing waiting game or in Roma's case, lowballing Spurs into accepting a lower deal.

Toby seems fully involved in preseason with the main squad.

Best case sceanario IMO, is tie down Saliba to join us next season and get one full season from Toby with us. Only hope is, when he does leave , goes to a non-PL club.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Jul 10, 2008
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I very much doubt Roma will be able to afford the wages he's after

Point is that they are going trying to get him for cheap so they can give him a large signing on fee which will offset his wages. Similar to what Juve have done with Ramsey.
 
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