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Player Watch : Vincent Janssen

ebzrascal

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Was a bit worried about Vincent but thankfully he only needs to improve 10 key areas of his game, work on his confidence and practise his dancing and he will be fine.

Sounds harsh but watched him closely especially yesterday and he does have a lot of work to do before he is really ready in my view.
 

10_Lineker

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Not sure about Janssen. I want him to be success in Spurs, but season so far he has not been good enough. We can not rely on Kane full season, so we need someone who can step up when Kane is not playing. Janssen so far did not do that. Will we keep him or look for striker with PL experience?
 

jonathanhotspur

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Not sure about Janssen. I want him to be success in Spurs, but season so far he has not been good enough. We can not rely on Kane full season, so we need someone who can step up when Kane is not playing. Janssen so far did not do that. Will we keep him or look for striker with PL experience?
Cool username!
 

Macwally

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It's difficult because if he'd scored 15-20 goals he probably wouldn't be happy to be benched every time harry is available. Equally if Vincent was performing and Harry wasn't getting straight back in the team could another team turn his head? I don't think his personal performances have always been what we've wanted but in terms of performance and goals scored the team hasn't suffered greatly, certainly not recently.
 

StanSpur

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I think it is easy to forget that this lad was the youngest Spurs player on the pitch bar Alli on Saturday. he is a year younger than Kane and Dier, 2 years younger than Son, 2.5 younger than Eriksen. If you leave Alli and Kane aside and look at Son and Eriksen in particular, neither of them at 22 were fan favourites, both have developed into key players for the club only recently (Eriksen last season and Son this). That being the case I want to give him more time, we are fortunate enough to have a front 4/5 capable of scoring goals which allows him the breathing space of being our only option in Kane's absences. IF the coaching staff can get him through an intense summer and pre-season schedule, get his agility and speed off the mark improved then I think he has a shot. His general hold up play is pretty decent. He's certainly strong enough for the league and has had a golden touch in his previous season so can get goals. If he was our only backup option for Kane I'd be more tempted to bring someone else in but, I think with Son, Eriksen and Alli scoring (and possibly Lamela to come back in as well) we can afford him another season.
 
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Hoops

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He has to be given time to adapt.

Countless were the number of people who said that Cane was not good enough and that he won't ever be good enough for the PL.

Let's not jump into conclusions just yet, we might regret it.

Time to adapt? The man is in a free scoring team that has the ball 99pccif the time and has yet to score from open play
 

Hoops

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I think it is easy to forget that this lad was the youngest Spurs player on the pitch bar Alli on Saturday. he is a year younger than Kane and Dier, 2 years younger than Son, 2.5 younger than Eriksen. If you leave Alli and Kane aside and look at Son and Eriksen in particular, neither of them at 22 where fan favourites, both have developed into key players for the club only recently (Eriksen last season and Son this). That being the case I want to give him more time, we are fortunate enough to have a front 4/5 capable of scoring goals which allows him the breathing space of being our only option in Kane's absences. IF the coaching staff can get him through an intense summer and pre-season schedule, get his agility and speed off the mark improved then I think he has a shot. His general hold up play is pretty decent. He's certainly strong enough for the league and has had a golden touch in his previous season so can get goals. If he was our only backup option for Kane I'd be more tempted to bring someone else in but, I think with Son, Eriksen and Alli scoring (and possibly Lamela to come back in as well) we can afford him another season.

Hes young but have have you seen a single game where you think yhe guy is gonna be a threat?
 

StanSpur

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Hes young but have have you seen a single game where you think yhe guy is gonna be a threat?

Maybe not no, but equally I cant think of a long list of strikers that come into the PL and look hot from day one. There are the likes of Aguero and Drogba, Costa and Ibra etc but they were all (or would turn into) top class strikers. I don't think Janssen will ever be as good as them or even Kane, but he may become an adequate alternative if given time that's all.
 

mattie g

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Let's ne honest here, he was a punt and it hasn't worked. I'm don't know if we need to sell him next season. But would anyone be happy if we went in to next season without buying another striker???

I disagree that "it hasn't worked." I don't think you can make that assessment before next Christmas, given his youth, move from a foreign league, and his relative inexperience at the top levels of the game.

As for the bold, assuming no outs from among our main attacking players from this season, then yes, I'd be OK with that.
 

Shadydan

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Let's ne honest here, he was a punt and it hasn't worked. I'm don't know if we need to sell him next season. But would anyone be happy if we went in to next season without buying another striker???

So what happens if we are sitting here this time next season saying that our new striker that we signed in the summer "hasn't worked"?
 

SpursDave88

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He didn't miss a "sitter." I've watched that numerous times from different angles, and it was very easy to fluff that chance due to the way it bounced.

Seriously this might be one of the most straw graspy things I have read. If a ball in to you unchallenged and inside the post a yard from goal is not a sitter I don't know what is.
 

Ossie85

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Seriously this might be one of the most straw graspy things I have read. If a ball in to you unchallenged and inside the post a yard from goal is not a sitter I don't know what is.

It's not the first time, and it won't be the last.
I understand trying to support Janssen, but we need to call things like they are, not like we want them to be.
I've had this same discussion when he missed the header against Millwall.
It's getting ridiculous.
 

St José Dominguez

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If he'd smashed that chance 5 miles over the bar I think I'd have more faith in him. He wasn't even set, he wasn't even close to process of swinging his leg at it. There's some things in my opinion as a striker you either have or don't and it's those split second reactions that are vital in this league, he doesn't have it. That's not to mention his strange positioning and fact he rarely looks a threat. If he was missing chance after chance I'd feel he could turn it around, right now I can't see it.

He's not Soldado but fan treatment is going that way. Just like before he's being felt sorry for and people are grasping whilst at same time slating other signings.

I'm all for giving a player time and if Poch wants to keep faith I'll support him but anyone who doesn't think he's been a complete flop is living in a fantasy world.

We are seriously suggesting that a striker who doesn't score but can hold up the ball and maybe lay off the ball for another to score is worth keeping here? That big guy at Lincoln could do that. We need a back up striker who can score, if it's not gonna be Janssen we have to sign someone.
 

millsey

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If he'd smashed that chance 5 miles over the bar I think I'd have more faith in him. He wasn't even set, he wasn't even close to process of swinging his leg at it. There's some things in my opinion as a striker you either have or don't and it's those split second reactions that are vital in this league, he doesn't have it. That's not to mention his strange positioning and fact he rarely looks a threat. If he was missing chance after chance I'd feel he could turn it around, right now I can't see it.

He's not Soldado but fan treatment is going that way. Just like before he's being felt sorry for and people are grasping whilst at same time slating other signings.

I'm all for giving a player time and if Poch wants to keep faith I'll support him but anyone who doesn't think he's been a complete flop is living in a fantasy world.

We are seriously suggesting that a striker who doesn't score but can hold up the ball and maybe lay off the ball for another to score is worth keeping here? That big guy at Lincoln could do that. We need a back up striker who can score, if it's not gonna be Janssen we have to sign someone.
Bingo. Lukaku who can't hold up, pass, or much else apart from score a shit load of goals, or Jansen?
 

Hazelton

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He's been like that all season. How many games does he do alright but say he was unlucky or on another day. At what point do we say he's not good enough? With 60-70 games a season we need someone who's better coming in to replace Kane. Or play with Kane. I admire Spurs fans not giving up on a player, but to me, he's championship level
I'm sure that you, like all of us, have been watching football long enough to know that things can change in a second. One moment can change everything. Before Kane became the player he is today, people were writing him off. I was one of those people, I never thought he would make it here and that he was "Championship level", but look what happened. People wrote Danny Rose off but he became arguably the best LB in the league. The same happened to Dembele, Bale, Walker etc.

While he's still at the club, support him. He's a Spurs player and he's trying bloody hard to make it work, so the least we can do is try to help him and motivate him to keep trying.
 

millsey

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I'm sure that you, like all of us, have been watching football long enough to know that things can change in a second. One moment can change everything. Before Kane became the player he is today, people were writing him off. I was one of those people, I never thought he would make it here and that he was "Championship level", but look what happened. People wrote Danny Rose off but he became arguably the best LB in the league. The same happened to Dembele, Bale, Walker etc.

While he's still at the club, support him. He's a Spurs player and he's trying bloody hard to make it work, so the least we can do is try to help him and motivate him to keep trying.
Although I agree with a lot of what you said, just because people on here express there opinions hat he's been very poor for us, does not mean we don't support him. Would like nothing more for him to turn onto the next Kane
 

hutchiniho

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Agreed. Dion Dublin is definitely right in saying we need patience and he needs a run of games to build his confidence and goals will undoubtably come in this Spurs team. But is he going to get that luxury with Kane fit again and Son in great form? Janssen just doesn't look sharp at the moment and can't seem to get his feet set quickly enough in my opinion. We do need it to click for him soon because we at least need a sub that can influence a result positively in those close fixtures, Solskjear esque, which he did against Swansea to be fair. hopefully a brace against Bournemouth will set him up for the winner the the Cup semi final next week.
 
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