playes ratings thread ( vs Hapoel Tel-Aviv )

[Legend10]

I hate to say it but you are spot on there.He is a very,very good player but what a player and what a captain he would be if he jumped wholeheartedly for headers and never shied away from a 50/50 tackle.

Do you mean 80/20 in his favour.

It really is strange quite how afraid of contact Keane is, at times he actually could get to the ball first and instead runs off in the opposite direction so that he isn't involved in any contact.

Can't knock his form though, I think he has comeback very well after a really poor start to the season.

 

[MattyP]

Robbo: 6.5. One good save, always shouting at defenders. Much more of this please

Stalteri: 6.5. Great block tackle in second half prevented a chance.

Chimbo: 6.5. If Gardner started like he did he'd be crucified, but settled down. Should've scored.

Daws: 6. Better than recent, but still not the Daws of old.

Lee: 6. Normally better than that.

Malbranque: 7.5. Best player on the pitch, tackled well, set up both goals.

Jenas: 6. Made one or two good runs ahead of the strikers, but ignored. Otherwise poor.

Zokora: 6. At least three times turned away scared the ball was gonna hit him. Grow some balls. As always, good running, poor everything else.

Lennon: 6. His man was sent off, so he must have thought he'd deliver the end product that was never there.

Berba: 6.5 Scored, looked better than in recent times, look forward to having him back on form.

Keano: 6.5. Scored and moaned alot. Pretty standard game then.


KPB: 6.5 Did okay.

Defoe: 6. Played out on either wing, why not up front, but good ball to set up Bent.

Bent: 6. Went round keeper well, scuffed shot, though on target, allowing chance to be blocked onto post.



Channel 5 commentary and analysis: 1. And that's being generous. Not worthy of more explanation.

Cameraman who focused on the flag with the Spurs crest inside the star of david with Yid Army on the flag: 10. Man of the match by a long shot.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

The inability of our strikers (nearly all of them) to defend from the front is a major factor in the teams problems. They force our midfield further out which in turn leaves a greater gap between the midfield and the defence. Apart from anything it is important that we defend as a team.

 

[SpurSince57]

I'm not questioning Ramos but why do we have to assume that Jol has more idea what he's on about than any of us?

Especially as you are convinced that you know how to run a Premiership football club and a £100 million turnover business better than Levy.

So if it's ok for you to continously slag and question some very succesful individuals lke Levy and kemsley about their ability to run the club why are other fans not permitted to question somebody like Jol on his football decisions?

I would say that football decisions were a little bit easier than what the boys you constantly question have achieved.

Not a post that's meant to be sarcastic but seriously curious as to why anybody would think that fans don't have the right to voice an opinion or question how there team is being managed.

And for what it's worth I have no issue with anybody questioning the actions of Levy and or Kemsley even though I support them in the whole Jol saga and for the way they have managed the club in their time at the helm.

Er, sorry, but what the fuck are you on about? JR's subs were being questioned. I was defending them, as I would have done Jol's. Because both of them have far more idea of what they're about than any of us.

So what's your problem?

 

[Dannyspur]

listen forget the marks - we were

boring
disinterested (berba)
poor midfield
rubbish defence

but hey listen spain was not built in a day - he needs more time to get them fit and playing like they mean it - no one was going to flick a switch and suddenly we play smooth fast attractive football

neither was ROME apparently!

I do agree with your summing up. Funny thing is the whole of the starting line-up were with us last year, so we can't blame intergration of new players for the decline in form.

 

[eddiebailey]

neither was ROME apparently!

I do agree with your summing up. Funny thing is the whole of the starting line-up were with us last year, so we can't blame intergration of new players for the decline in form.

Without King we were pretty shit for large chunks of last season. The excellent form of Berbatov (and to a lesser extent Chimbonda) papered over a lot of cracks.

 

[SpurSince57]

Dawson 6 - SFA to do yet still didn't look great. Would like to have seen Kaboul with Chimbonda.

A bit kind. Robbo and Salty got his arse out of the bacon-slicer. Being physically slow is one thing. Being mentally slow is another. Whether Kaboul would have been any better is a moot point.

 

[soup]

I didn't think we were too bad to be honest. To me it was a classic back-to-basics game where it looked as though the players had been given a bit more of a gameplan, if not quite up to the tempo we could have probably pushed to.

You know, or hope that JR will go up a few more gears with the players over time but just to keep it simple, not make as many mistakes, keep a clean sheet and win away is what we'd have been giving our right arms for over the past couple of months.

 

[joey55]

Without King we were pretty shit for large chunks of last season. The excellent form of Berbatov (and to a lesser extent Chimbonda) papered over a lot of cracks.

With King we averaged 1.8pts per game, which over a whole season is 68 pts which is the same as Liverpool and Arsenal. Without King we averaged 1.3 pts per game, which over the season would have been 49 pts and good enough for 12th place. It should also be noted King played in the majority of games against the top 4, so the big difference isn't because he didn't play in tougher games. If you take it a step further and look at the times both are top quality players were on the pitch (ie King and Berbs) we averaged 2pts per game, which was enough for 76pts, which is miles infront of Arsenal and Liverpool.

 

[Bill_Oddie]

I couldn't give individual marks, but:

1st 20 minutes:
Spurs = 2/10
Hapoel = 3/10

20-30 minutes:
Spurs = 6/10
Hapoel = 2/10

30-90 minutes:
Spurs = 5/10
Hapoel = 1.5/10

Pretty much tells the story for me.

 

[WhiteHart4Ever]

Lets say that apart from Keano and Steed the rest looked like they thought it was a holiday break.

True enough, but I would say that our two best players of the season - Keane and Malbranque - once again provided the goods offensively, while Zokora had the midfield in his pocket. Chimbonda had a decent game at CB aswell, and Robbo took the little thrown at him with ease.

However, Berbatov - he looks uninterested, but that is not so important - lacks movement and makes our attack static, and I believe he should not play if he doesnt perform better than yesterday. Good goal though, and created an excellent chance aswell...

Lennon is nowhere near his best, Jenas doesnt do anything right, Bent lacks confidence, Boateng hardly moved his feet, Stalteri was solid but dull, and Lee and Dawson were just there. Defoe was a shadow of his usual lively treath upfront, but hes got some very useful abilities in those quick feet of his, and I suspect he will get more games under Ramos!

To sum up, its always good to win away in Europe, but I find it worrying that the team didnt use the game to really impress Ramos and the fans. Given Sevillas "run, run, run, speed, speed, speed" attitude in the past I suspect Ramos believes hes got a long way to go!!

 

[Flatters]

True enough, but I would say that our two best players of the season - Keane and Malbranque - once again provided the goods offensively

I was just about to point that out. Malbranque's probably impressed me the most this season, and although I wouldn't say Keane's been anywhere near his best this season, he keeps putting the goals away. I'd put Lee with them and possibly Bale, if Bale was lucky enough to stay fit. Had Bale been fit and kept playing the way he was when he was fit, he would easily be our best player at the moment. Though if he was fit, Malbranque wouldn't be playing...

 

[Flatters]

With King we averaged 1.8pts per game, which over a whole season is 68 pts which is the same as Liverpool and Arsenal. Without King we averaged 1.3 pts per game, which over the season would have been 49 pts and good enough for 12th place. It should also be noted King played in the majority of games against the top 4, so the big difference isn't because he didn't play in tougher games. If you take it a step further and look at the times both are top quality players were on the pitch (ie King and Berbs) we averaged 2pts per game, which was enough for 76pts, which is miles infront of Arsenal and Liverpool.

And that is part of the reason why Ledley is the best player in the world.

 

[leetotty]

I couldn't give individual marks, but:

1st 20 minutes:
Spurs = 2/10
Hapoel = 3/10

20-30 minutes:
Spurs = 6/10
Hapoel = 2/10

30-90 minutes:
Spurs = 5/10
Hapoel = 1.5/10

Pretty much tells the story for me.

Exactly right. Tottenham were only average to poor but it was easily enough to beat the opposition who were dreadful.

I though against 10 men we should have created more openings, but winning 5-0 or 2-0 doesn't make any difference, I think they were all just wanting the final whistle to go and get home after what could have been a tricky little game.

 

[Carp]

whats so funny? did you watch the game

What's so funny? Rating Keane 8 and Steed 7. I watched the game. Did you?

 

[DogsOfWar]

F**k me, reading this has made me want to end it all.

It's a cup game, the only thing that matters is the result.

We scored two and kept a clean sheet, there's no extra prizes for scoring ten whilst knackering yourself out, this isn't some computer game.

This is professional football and we got the job done.

 

[orkneyspur]

F**k me, reading this has made me want to end it all.

It's a cup game, the only thing that matters is the result.

We scored two and kept a clean sheet, there's no extra prizes for scoring ten whilst knackering yourself out, this isn't some computer game.

This is professional football and we got the job done.

Know what you mean, but really can't agree.
There would be no point in ever changing managers, players, tactics or even the pie seller, if it didn't bring an improvement to the game. I was disappointed again the the lack of effort and pace in most of the game as well as the usual poor passing and link up play.
The result was good, but the game was shite. :shrug:

 

[nicdic]

Robbo - 6
Stalteri - 6
Dawson - 5
Chimbonda - 5
Lee - 6
Lennon - 6
Jenas - 5
Zokora - 5
Malbranque - 7
Berbatov - 6
Keane - 6

Defoe - 6
Bent - 6
KPB - 6

 

[C0YS]

Know what you mean, but really can't agree.
There would be no point in ever changing managers, players, tactics or even the pie seller, if it didn't bring an improvement to the game. I was disappointed again the the lack of effort and pace in most of the game as well as the usual poor passing and link up play.
The result was good, but the game was shite. :shrug:

I admit critisism can help, but some people just b*tch about the players/mannger without any reasoning involved

 

[Damian99]

It's a cup game, the only thing that matters is the result.


This is professional football and we got the job done.

True enough, but a little show of effort and interest wudnt have gone a miss, half decent opposition we`d have struggled. Maybe due to the fact they were utter shit accounted for the way we played?