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Spurs' Pipe Dreams

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No one said he can't have an opinion. No one said he can't discuss that opinion. My point is that very few people SHOULD have the right to talk about subjects publicly. That goes for most journalists who know sweet fuck all on most topics too and yet can write columns on whatever the hell they feel like. As the old saying goes "The more I learn about a specific subject, the more I realise how little the press know about it".

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It's incredibly funny that football fans don't understand how leaving the EU will effect the Premier League. When freedom of movement started it affected it massively and it will if we leave the the EU.

It may give youth a chance but it also may make the Premier league less competitive, where only the richest can afford proven internationals or players of exceptional talent. If Italy, Spain or even France are clever they'll be able to get the best young players in Europe and we won't because they won't get a work permit. Gone is the ability to buy South American players because their Grandparents were Portuguese or Spanish.

If Brexit happens it will affect managing in the Premier League which is why Klopp and Poch are entitled to speak about it, also because they are foreign nationals that may have to apply for a work permit if we fail to guarantee citizen rights
 

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I'm not a fan of football managers discussing current affairs because for me football is about escapism. I can sink myself into a match or tournament and for that moment what is going on in the world doesn't matter.

At its best you end up with an impact like this summers world cup where the mood of the masses is positively effected by football.

I have plenty of avenues if i wish to discuss brexit or whatever other world event is taking place but i don't need to hear it from my football club. Just my personal view.

I think one of the larger issues with the modern world is you can't get away from it.
 

worcestersauce

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Poch is not anti brexit, he is not British so isn't pro or anti, he is just making an observation as a third party and to be honest it's pretty much the view of third parties around the world. All around the world people who understand what has happened are amazed that we are leaving a trading block most countries would love the opportunity to belong to. It's no good being petulant because that doesn't fit a leave narrative. People may say it is what we voted for and it is the will of the people but that doesn't make it not a stupid idea.
 

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Poch is not anti brexit, he is not British so isn't pro or anti, he is just making an observation as a third party and to be honest it's pretty much the view of third parties around the world. All around the world people who understand what has happened are amazed that we are leaving a trading block most countries would love the opportunity to belong to. It's no good being petulant because that doesn't fit a leave narrative. People may say it is what we voted for and it is the will of the people but that doesn't make it not a stupid idea.

I'm not going to get into the pros and cons of the EU but that just backs up my point of how ignorant people are. Including Poch. Which is why he should keep his trap shut.
 

Sevens

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Wow what a world we'd live in with you in charge. Only the selected few can voice their opinion to anyone other than themselves. What criteria does someone have to meet to voice their opinion in public then? I'm guessing they tow your line or they can shut the fuck up.

Not voicing their opinion in public. That's fine as long as it is a debate (although my preference would be the attendees of a public debate be there on merit of knowledge and not emotional idealism). Preaching a view when you are not held accountable for it? The criteria for me is them being a subject matter expert and preferably, but not exclusively, someone who has experience beyond that of academia.
I know I am in an ever increasing minority over this view, but I personally value the opinion of someone like that over a Kim Kardashian and would rather print and air time on such matters be taken up by experts over the Kim Kardashians of this world.
 

Sevens

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It's incredibly funny that football fans don't understand how leaving the EU will effect the Premier League. When freedom of movement started it affected it massively and it will if we leave the the EU.

It may give youth a chance but it also may make the Premier league less competitive, where only the richest can afford proven internationals or players of exceptional talent. If Italy, Spain or even France are clever they'll be able to get the best young players in Europe and we won't because they won't get a work permit. Gone is the ability to buy South American players because their Grandparents were Portuguese or Spanish.

If Brexit happens it will affect managing in the Premier League which is why Klopp and Poch are entitled to speak about it, also because they are foreign nationals that may have to apply for a work permit if we fail to guarantee citizen rights

Won't affect a thing. The world has changed generally and the increased movement of migrants (of all levels) has nothing to do with the EU. It's happening all over the world.

That said, the EU has indirectly assisted the Premier League in far larger ways than freedom of movement. The EU has fucked the Italian and Spanish economies massively and that has had a massively negative impact on their football.
 

Sevens

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I love it when politicians try to influence the masses by telling lies about how great Britain would be wandering about in a post brexit wilderness!

Us uneducated peasants are so knowledgeable that we actually believe them.

No disagreement by me on this post. Irrespective of Brexit and May's obvious attempts to derail the whole thing, after the dust has settled its time to have a serious debate about the dismantling of parliamentary democracy. If we stay in the EU its a moot point anyway, as the fear of Brexit will increase the movement to federalise the entire bloc. But it has been clear to me for years that MPs are generally clueless and leaving the fate of the country in their self serving ignorant hands is no better than direct democracy.
 
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