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Pochettino: club must 'take risks' to improve

wizgell

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I find what Poch is saying very intriguing, I think that he thinks that he has taken the team as far as he can with the funding he's been given. And wants considerable funds and transfers done early to take us to that next level. I'm rather worried about what might happen if he doesn't get his own way.


The thing is he is saying what everyone else is saying, the media who have been pushing the same message and ignoring every other correct statement he's ever made are just having a field day with the fact it's come from him.

Media: 'Spurs need to spend more to close gap' *tumbleweed*
Poch: 'Spurs need to spend more to close gap' *media goes nuts and everyone thinks he's looking to leave*
 

wizgell

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Everyone is panicking after coming to the realisation that the manager has ambition. Until now Spurs have been able to match, if not surpass, those ambitions. As the clubs standing increases, ambition increases, individual ambition increases and everything needs to fall in line.

Players leave for exactly the same reasons.

As long as the club continues to fall in line with the ambitions of the team and manager there is no need to panic. You get the impression from Levy, in the very few interviews that he has done- which are out of character in themselves, that he trusts Poch implicity.
 

wizgell

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"No for sure Daniel is going to listen to me and we can create together to help the team move on."

This was left off by the BBC, included by Alasdair Gold
 

chinaman

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Lucky to have Ali Gold around to clarify things that the press twist to discredit our most important man.
 

guiltyparty

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“Now’s the time to take a risk”

Unfortunately I’m not sure it is the year you move into a new stadium and take on an enormous debt, as much as the fan in me agrees. Seems unlikely this wouldn’t have been discussed tho.

Reading between the lines of anyone whose first language isn’t English is always hard but sounds like he wants to update the terms of the project. There’s been much talk of us being ahead of schedule, so I guess this is a recognition of that, and whether we push on or not.
 
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Mullers

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The thing is he is saying what everyone else is saying, the media who have been pushing the same message and ignoring every other correct statement he's ever made are just having a field day with the fact it's come from him.

Media: 'Spurs need to spend more to close gap' *tumbleweed*
Poch: 'Spurs need to spend more to close gap' *media goes nuts and everyone thinks he's looking to leave*
The fact that he said makes it very significant though together with the I'm not 100% sure if I will be here next season has created a bit of doubt.
 

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Everyone is panicking after coming to the realisation that the manager has ambition. Until now Spurs have been able to match, if not surpass, those ambitions. As the clubs standing increases, ambition increases, individual ambition increases and everything needs to fall in line.

Players leave for exactly the same reasons.

As long as the club continues to fall in line with the ambitions of the team and manager there is no need to panic. You get the impression from Levy, in the very few interviews that he has done- which are out of character in themselves, that he trusts Poch implicity.
We've had a number of managers who have been frustrated in their attempts to take the team to another level, Poch has the best chance yet but I don't see Levy and the board taking big risks and straying from a formula that has worked for them so far.
 

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Its clever really, Not comparing Poch to Maureen but other week in media bemoaning not happy with finishing 2nd to city in other words I need even more funds from the manc board for players. Poch is spot on he's right to leverage his position and want sign quality players, have demands etc whats wrong with being ambitious and taking our club to where we deserve to be.
 

Japhet

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“Now’s the time to take a risk”

Unfortunately I’m not sure it is the year you move into a new stadium and take on an enormous debt, as much as the fan in me agrees. Seems unlikely this wouldn’t have been discussed tho.

Reading between the lines of anyone whose first language isn’t English is always hard but sounds like he wants to update the terms of the protect. There’s been much talk of us being ahead of schedule, so I guess this is a recognition of that, and whether we push on or not.

Seems to me that Poch is just sending a message to Levy - I've delivered my side of the deal a bit early and now it's time for you to do the same. I'm pretty sure Levy knows what side his bread's buttered and will back the best manager we've had for decades, especially since Poch doesn't seem the type to demand the most expensive players on the planet.
 

Mullers

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The thing is, it's not just matter of paying the transfer fee, the players have to fit into our wage structure as well. We currently pay the sixth best wages in the prem, so getting players that will take us to another level will be extremely difficult.
 

Japhet

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The thing is, it's not just matter of paying the transfer fee, the players have to fit into our wage structure as well. We currently pay the sixth best wages in the prem, so getting players that will take us to another level will be extremely difficult.

We've already beaten all of them with players like Dele and Dier who cost next to nothing. Prices have rocketed but we don't need to be looking at 100m players to go up a gear. We need players with the right attitude first and foremost which is what Poch has prioritised so far. We should have money to spend but not at ridiculous amounts on fees or wages.
 

Mullers

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We've already beaten all of them with players like Dele and Dier who cost next to nothing. Prices have rocketed but we don't need to be looking at 100m players to go up a gear. We need players with the right attitude first and foremost which is what Poch has prioritised so far. We should have money to spend but not at ridiculous amounts on fees or wages.
I agree, we are always on the lookout for talent at bargain prices but I don't sense that is what Poch is on about when he talks about taking big risks.
 

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I agree, we are always on the lookout for talent at bargain prices but I don't sense that is what Poch is on about when he talks about taking big risks.

IMO he's talking about letting players like Toby, Rose and Moussa leave without trying to wring the last drop out of any deal so that we can get on with replacing them, again without haggling over every penny.
 

Mullers

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IMO he's talking about letting players like Toby, Rose and Moussa leave without trying to wring the last drop out of any deal so that we can get on with replacing them, again without haggling over every penny.
He's talking about that too but Levy isn't going to let them go cheaply no matter what he says. Potential those 3 can bring in anywhere from 80 to 100 million.
 

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Simply put, when nothing is said by Pochettino, I have no worries. All the media chit chat about Real Madrid, “bigger clubs” etc. was, IMO media speculation to generate stories.

But now things are different. Pochettino himself is talking about (hinting and questioning) his future at Spurs. However positively we want to put a spin on it to help us relax through the summer and however good we think Spurs will be as a club going forward - his interview and the fact that he has brought it up should be a worry.

His stock is high and he is ambitious. I am in no doubt that he loves it here and wants to stay but will leave if he feels his ambitions are not matched by the club’s.
yeah i agree and i am worried too but we should remember we have now become one of the most interesting possible new jobs for other managers too. maybe not the very very top ones but certainly second level and up and coming new managers.
we have a goodset of players, a good work and fitness ethic, a state of the art new stadium and champions league again.
maybe now is a good time for change.
 

Metalhead

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He's talking about that too but Levy isn't going to let them go cheaply no matter what he says. Potential those 3 can bring in anywhere from 80 to 100 million.
I wonder whether squeezing every last penny out of the buying club isn't a false economy if it means delaying getting the right players in.
 

Fidget

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Based on previous form, I expect us to alienate the manager within a year.

On the other hand, this is the first manager I can say we've have since Berkenshaw, that is the real deal and we absolutely should fight to keep.

I don't believe the rumours of spending sprees though.

Having hundreds of millions to spend is different to spending it.
If targets A-E turn us down for more established clubs what then?
We end up with Sissoko.
yeah i really would worry if sissoko was our new manager
 

Metalhead

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yeah i agree and i am worried too but we should remember we have now become one of the most interesting possible new jobs for other managers too. maybe not the very very top ones but certainly second level and up and coming new managers.
we have a goodset of players, a good work and fitness ethic, a state of the art new stadium and champions league again.
maybe now is a good time for change.
I like the optimistic tone of your post but I don't like the idea of having to start all over again with a new managerial setup when we have a great one already installed.
 

Fidget

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I like the optimistic tone of your post but I don't like the idea of having to start all over again with a new managerial setup when we have a great one already installed.
yeah i would rather take the new stadium without a change of manager but if taking risk is a good call then also Levy might risk a new manager? i hope we can steady the ship a few years.
 

Metalhead

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yeah i would rather take the new stadium without a change of manager but if taking risk is a good call then also Levy might risk a new manager? i hope we can steady the ship a few years.
Trouble is that any manager with a proven track record will probably steer clear because they will want a huge budget and any up and coming manager will just be another risk, which I don't see any sense in taking.
 
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