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Pochettino halts Tottenham search for head of recruitment

Donki

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I agree, I have always said, generally speaking, we are amongst the best in the PL at the recruitment game, and that is one of the main factors that has made us the club we are now. But our whole recruitment ethos was initiated by Levy adopting a more continental approach, bringing in Arnesen and moving toward a more medium/long term strategy, and one with inherent value (financial but you could also say footballing) at it's core.

What this latest move suggests is - or the article does at any rate - is Pochettino being given more power in the process. Which I think, even with a coach as good as Pochetino, is a dangerous step. At best you end up with a Wenger type scenario at worst you can end paying 55m (plus circa another 45-50m in wages) for players like Sissoko* and Aurier, who you really didn't need at all.



* Bear caveat. Yes, I am only going on the ITK that Sissoko was "very much a Poch signing".

I don't think this will change our stategy, here is another spin on it. Maybe Poch wants to be more hands on in the transfer dealings i.e. Talking to the player, getting a feel for them, laying out his strategy directly to the player instead of through a middle man. I'd still say we will have our scouting network and it will be primarily them that are looking for the gems. TBH I don't think it's toning to effect who get enormously.

Anyway the whole headline is bullshit IMO, yes Poch and Levy get on but I very much doubt Poch walked into Levy's office and wa alike "Oii baldy, shove ur DOF role up your ass this is my ship".
 
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thisismyback

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This is an interesting thread to read back on. Bookmark this event in the timeline where things unraveled for Poch, Levy and Spurs.
 

vicbob

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From March 2018

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yeah let’s go back nearly 2 years and find out Hercs changed his mind. I know he can be an emotional guy and his ITK does go back and forth a bit (probably reflecting changing things behind the scenes) but he seems genuine enough and highlighting a post from 2 years ago seems a bit harsh:(
 

SpunkyBackpack

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:ROFLMAO: Glad somebody someone pointed that out. I got banned from the ITK thread for pointing out similar inconsistencies.

Well congrats to you, SC's very own Edward Snowdon, banished to Hong Kong. In March 2018 i wanted to lock Sissoko in a cupboard, give Poch a 25 year contract and half the forum wanted us to sign Ross Barkley. That was 4 transfer windows ago.
 

KingKay

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Well congrats to you, SC's very own Edward Snowdon, banished to Hong Kong. In March 2018 i wanted to lock Sissoko in a cupboard, give Poch a 25 year contract and half the forum wanted us to sign Ross Barkley. That was 4 transfer windows ago.
He's not going to sleep with you bro, you don't have to white knight him :LOL:

In all seriousness i'd argue 2/3 of those opinions from March 2018 are still correct (y)
 

LeParisien

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yeah let’s go back nearly 2 years and find out Hercs changed his mind. I know he can be an emotional guy and his ITK does go back and forth a bit (probably reflecting changing things behind the scenes) but he seems genuine enough and highlighting a post from 2 years ago seems a bit harsh:(
It’s fine for someone to change their mind!! He’s reporting in good faith.

But that moment was the precise moment when people would say in hindsight things weren’t working well. We were about to go 18 months before signing anyone. So it’s just a neat illustration of how much salt you need with itk.
 

mill

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It’s fine for someone to change their mind!! He’s reporting in good faith.

But that moment was the precise moment when people would say in hindsight things weren’t working well. We were about to go 18 months before signing anyone. So it’s just a neat illustration of how much salt you need with itk.

Your point would’ve been made better if you quoted some itk rather than opinion
 

Hercules

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Some can take the piss as much as they like. One thing I don’t do is BS! When I was asked to consider being ‘ITK’ I was very reluctant because I know how it can be treated and abused. I feel I have to vindicate myself for a very good reason, when you have certain posters ready to call me out.

All my connections and relationships within the club, players, agents etc, I have openly shared with the bosses with full agreement for them to varify. The majority of stuff I post as ‘ITK’ I normally share it privately, and sit back. And only come out to confirm when it is out etc, or endorse. I share real live information which is very fluid at the time. I cannot recall anyone hitting the nails on the head with the behind the scenes stack between Poch and DL. When they kissed and made up, I often shared the positives and not the negatives for very good reason. It would of become very clear to the spies in the club where the information was coming from.

After the manifestation and outcome of Poch’s plight, I now will not defend either the manager, or club, but call it as I see it. So take the piss as much as those posters like. I don’t need to prove anything to you. And as a tease, keep watching certain things unfold. And I have been very descriptive privately. All I will say, is try to understand, especially dealing with our club why things often goes tits up. And why I put my nads on the line in the summer regarding Sess, GLC, TN. Was because I knew why DL had to do those deals. He had really no choice, even with the hesitant nature of his?

yes! I am an emotional guy. Nobody is more passionate about our club than me. The air miles, road miles etc, I cover watching us, is no joke. 54 years and counting. COYS!!!
 
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Gspurs11

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Some can the piss as much Ss they like. One thing I don’t do is BS! When I was asked to consider being ‘ITK’ I was very reluctant because I know how it can be treated and abused. I feel I have to vindicate myself for a very good reason, when you have certain posters ready to call me out.

All my connections and relationships within tgr club, players, agents etc, I have openly shared with the bosses with full agreement for them to variety. The majority of stuff I post as ‘ITK’ I normally share it privately, and sit back. And only come out to confirm when it is out etc, or endorse. I share real love information which is very fluid at the time. I cannot recall anyone hitting the nails on the head with the behind the scenes stack between Poch and DL. When they kissed and made up, I often shared the posits for not the negatives for very good reason. It would of become very clear to the spies in the club to only where the information was coming from.

After the manifestation and outcome of Poch’s plight, I now will not defend either the manager, or club, but call it as I see it. So take the piss as much as those posters like. I don’t need to prove anything to you. And as a tease, keep watching certain things unfold. And I have been very descriptive privately. All I will say, is try to understand, especially dealing with our club why things often goes tits up. And why I put my mass on the line in the summer regarding Sess, GLC, TN. Was because I knew why DL had to do those deals. He had really no choice, even with the hesitant nature of his?

yes! I am an emotional guy. Nobody is more passionate about our club than me. The air miles, road miles etc, I cover watching us, is no joke. 54 years and counting. COYS!!!

You shouldn't have to justify yourself. The issue stems from people taking ITK as gospel, first-hand knowledge and not seeing the wider compartmentalisation of information from inside the club. It's the reason why we see ITK's information conflict! As people are at different points in the chain. Keep up the good work!
 
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Gassin's finest

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Some can the piss as much as they like. One thing I don’t do is BS! When I was asked to consider being ‘ITK’ I was very reluctant because I know how it can be treated and abused. I feel I have to vindicate myself for a very good reason, when you have certain posters ready to call me out.

All my connections and relationships within the club, players, agents etc, I have openly shared with the bosses with full agreement for them to varify. The majority of stuff I post as ‘ITK’ I normally share it privately, and sit back. And only come out to confirm when it is out etc, or endorse. I share real live information which is very fluid at the time. I cannot recall anyone hitting the nails on the head with the behind the scenes stack between Poch and DL. When they kissed and made up, I often shared the posits for not the negatives for very good reason. It would of become very clear to the spies in the club where the information was coming from.

After the manifestation and outcome of Poch’s plight, I now will not defend either the manager, or club, but call it as I see it. So take the piss as much as those posters like. I don’t need to prove anything to you. And as a tease, keep watching certain things unfold. And I have been very descriptive privately. All I will say, is try to understand, especially dealing with our club why things often goes tits up. And why I put my nads on the line in the summer regarding Sess, GLC, TN. Was because I knew why DL had to do those deals. He had really no choice, even with the hesitant nature of his?

yes! I am an emotional guy. Nobody is more passionate about our club than me. The air miles, road miles etc, I cover watching us, is no joke. 54 years and counting. COYS!!!
I'd swear you were Morris Keston, if he hadn't already died.
 

danielneeds

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Some can the piss as much as they like. One thing I don’t do is BS! When I was asked to consider being ‘ITK’ I was very reluctant because I know how it can be treated and abused. I feel I have to vindicate myself for a very good reason, when you have certain posters ready to call me out.

All my connections and relationships within the club, players, agents etc, I have openly shared with the bosses with full agreement for them to varify. The majority of stuff I post as ‘ITK’ I normally share it privately, and sit back. And only come out to confirm when it is out etc, or endorse. I share real live information which is very fluid at the time. I cannot recall anyone hitting the nails on the head with the behind the scenes stack between Poch and DL. When they kissed and made up, I often shared the posits for not the negatives for very good reason. It would of become very clear to the spies in the club where the information was coming from.

After the manifestation and outcome of Poch’s plight, I now will not defend either the manager, or club, but call it as I see it. So take the piss as much as those posters like. I don’t need to prove anything to you. And as a tease, keep watching certain things unfold. And I have been very descriptive privately. All I will say, is try to understand, especially dealing with our club why things often goes tits up. And why I put my nads on the line in the summer regarding Sess, GLC, TN. Was because I knew why DL had to do those deals. He had really no choice, even with the hesitant nature of his?

yes! I am an emotional guy. Nobody is more passionate about our club than me. The air miles, road miles etc, I cover watching us, is no joke. 54 years and counting. COYS!!!
You’ve just given those “spies in the club” a handy clue there! Lol.
 
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