Pochettino reveals how much Spurs have transformed under his management

[UbeAstard]

I think those that wanted dim sacked and believed Poch was better need to look at our current plight.

If there was a massive squad overhaul I'd accept its transitional.
But it's the same squad. Even a new manager shouldn't result in worse performances and results.

But the manager wants to play a diferent way to how Tim played.

 

[JoeT]

Simple but far more effective.

In retrospect TIm (not Dim 'Mattspur') didn't look so bad as a manager did he? But hang in there folks Pochetto is slowly starting to get to grips with what he's got and what he hasn't got.....hence recent the team-sheet omissions of the Demble's, Paulhinio's and Adebayor's ;hopefully January will see the back of them. I think he is giving Lamela an awful lot of playing time (maybe too much?) to see whether he can really develop into that very good player that's in there somewhere. We are slowly becoming more solid at the back and Walker's return will help more.
Levy just has to start supporting his Coach more now, as has been said by others (and me too), at present we are really nothing more than a blue-collar-mid-table team, but if we don't do even a few January deals we could find ourselves even lower down the table

 

[beuller]

Simple but far more effective.

I am struggling to see where you are going with your Sherwood/Pochettino comparisons.

Are you saying that you don't think Sherwood should have been sacked and would take him back over Pochettino?

Were you being all positive about him at the time? I find that hard to believe because you are an absolute constant moaner.

Or are you simply saying that Sherwood is a better manager than Pochettino? ignoring the fact he has had half a season total and proved himself nowhere.

 

[JoeT]

I am struggling to see where you are going with your Sherwood/Pochettino comparisons.

Are you saying that you don't think Sherwood should have been sacked and would take him back over Pochettino?

Were you being all positive about him at the time? I find that hard to believe because you are an absolute constant moaner.

Or are you simply saying that Sherwood is a better manager than Pochettino? ignoring the fact he has had half a season total and proved himself nowhere.

Please give it a rest 'beuller'; I believe the Sherwood comment was made more in passing (some on here still like to give him yet another shot). This thread is about whether Pochetto has indeed made progress.....thanks mate.

 

[the shelf]

Chelsea were "quite nervous"?? This must be the famous Argentine sense of humour coming to the fore...

 

[avonspurs]

Please give it a rest 'beuller'; I believe the Sherwood comment was made more in passing (some on here still like to give him yet another shot). This thread is about whether Pochetto has indeed made progress.....thanks mate.

With respect, Bueller isn't the one making comments about Sherwood and they certainly don't seem to be in passing as comments such as these have been made before by that poster (from memory). If this thread is solely about Poch then maybe you should direct your post to the person who made the original Sherwood/Poch comparison.

 

[Japhet]

This didn't stop people getting on AVB's back.

Welcome to THFC Fan base.

AVB had lots of time during which the style of play got progressively worse. Bale papered over a lot of the cracks to start with but after 18 months, the dreary playing style was more than many could bear. Levy didn't back him enough IMO (Moutinho) and I hope that's a lesson which has been learnt.

 

[shelfmonkey]

Who's this Pochetto bloke?

 

[TaoistMonkey]

AVB had lots of time during which the style of play got progressively worse. Bale papered over a lot of the cracks to start with but after 18 months, the dreary playing style was more than many could bear. Levy didn't back him enough IMO (Moutinho) and I hope that's a lesson which has been learnt.

I love the way people treat Bale like he's a bonus player who shouldn't really be counted.

AVB was "dreary" because he was focusing on a stable defence which he got until injuries kicked in. Then was mostly likely pressured to play more attacking which then put pressure on the weakened defence.

But anyway. I've said this a million times and it won't change things. We all have are own opinions on that matter

 

[beuller]

Please give it a rest 'beuller'; I believe the Sherwood comment was made more in passing (some on here still like to give him yet another shot). This thread is about whether Pochetto has indeed made progress.....thanks mate.

Cheers 'JoeT', your feedback is always appreciated.

I just asked the guy to clarify where he is coming from on his comparisons of the two (he referred to Sherwood twice!), other than as a passing moan the current incumbent.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

But the manager wants to play a diferent way to how Tim played.

What, badly?

 

[balalasaurus]

At the beginning of the season many of us proclaimed that as a season of 'transition' it was worth writing our performance off.
Not even fully half way through and only 6 points off third, we're already trying to hold the team to impossible standards and complaining about one thing or the other.
Can we really expect to transition if we keep holding ourselves back with outrageous demands?
Some of us need to take a good long look in the mirror IMO.

 

[Black]

No I think he means scrape games or just not scoring at all.

“We had nearly 70 per cent possession in the second half and that was because we believed.

He can't really believe that can he.

 

[Metalhead]

In retrospect TIm (not Dim 'Mattspur') didn't look so bad as a manager did he? But hang in there folks Pochetto is slowly starting to get to grips with what he's got and what he hasn't got.....hence recent the team-sheet omissions of the Demble's, Paulhinio's and Adebayor's ;hopefully January will see the back of them. I think he is giving Lamela an awful lot of playing time (maybe too much?) to see whether he can really develop into that very good player that's in there somewhere. We are slowly becoming more solid at the back and Walker's return will help more.
Levy just has to start supporting his Coach more now, as has been said by others (and me too), at present we are really nothing more than a blue-collar-mid-table team, but if we don't do even a few January deals we could find ourselves even lower down the table

I guess it would be difficult to complain about Lamela being given loads of playing time as so many of us (including myself) were so excited about his 'comeback' this season.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

This dude can't win! First he gets accused of not know his starting 11, now it could be down to his lack of rotation

Poor sod.....he was doomed before he even took the job

Two points i think need to be considered here:

This dude can't win! First he gets accused of not know his starting 11

He should after twenty odd games (all compo's) have some idea of his best starting lineup. I mean Pulis dug out Palace from certain relegation with fewer games to assess his squad and i guess that the majority on here rate Poch above Pulis?

now it could be down to his lack of rotation

He has himself and his coaches to blame for this. I mean he worked with them all after the Hull and EL and Everton games going into the Chel$ea and Palace games. If he and his coaches deemed that eleven who started on Saturday good to go then who else to blame? He has at his disposal ( aside from injury or suspensions) fourteen other players.

He can and i guess will possibly be successful, but i don't agree that he still needs time to pick a best starting eleven and that tiredness and the recognition of should not have been recognised by him or the coaching staff.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

The sooner fans stop thinking we can make top 4, the sooner they will start to accept that anything from 6th to 10th is more likely and perfectly acceptable for Poch to achieve this season.

The difference between AVB and Poch is that AVB's teams never showed any signs of change and improvement. We were slow, boring and lacked any style. AVB also hadn't shown any evidence in the Prem of his teams playing good football whereas Poch has exactly that from his time at Saints.

We have to give Poch the chance to stamp his mark on this team. We saw a glimpse of it in the Everton win and I believe we can play like that regularly in the long run.

Spurs fans are behaving like a bunch of spoilt brats that have never actually been spoilt. We have no divine right to beat any team, home or away and we need to stop assuming we are SO much better than other teams. We have to work hard for every win. This league has proven that it is now far more competitive. Palace game was our 3rd in 6 days for a team trying to adopt a high pressing style of play that not every player in the squad is ready to take on.

We need to get our heads wrapped around what this season will be, if we do then it will be far easier to enjoy.

It's not just the fans that talk about the top four though is it? Many of the players have stated the same, so i think you need to have a little perspective on this.

As for being spoilt brats, well when we made the quarter finals of the CL and i realised what seven other teams stood in our way we were in fact at that time the sixth or seventh best team in Europe and their on merit. If asking for more of the same is acting like a "spoilt brat" then i apologise and should in fact be praying for a tenth place finish i guess. How fucking stupid am i to expect more.

I don't doubt that this will be a season of change and turmoil, but the odd win here and there should be expected given the quality of players that we have at the club. Oh, and these very players took us to a sixth place finish last season with a pillock of a coach may i add.

 

[eddiebailey]

AVB was "dreary" because he was focusing on a stable defence which he got until injuries kicked in. Then was mostly likely pressured to play more attacking which then put pressure on the weakened defence.

Injuries or no, I would have hoped that after a season and half of working on our defence to the complete detriment of our attacking play, he might have succeeded in building something that did not crumble to dust as soon as our players began making the occasional run into the opposition penalty area.

 

[JonnySpurs]

As for being spoilt brats, well when we made the quarter finals of the CL and i realised what seven other teams stood in our way we were in fact at that time the sixth or seventh best team in Europe and their on merit. If asking for more of the same is acting like a "spoilt brat" then i apologise and should in fact be praying for a tenth place finish i guess. How fucking stupid am i to expect more.

Asking and expecting are two very different things. I'm asking for us to get back into the CL but I don't expect it to happen just because we were in it ONCE before. That's the point I'm making.

You ask me to have perspective about something but should arguably take your own advice in this instance. I have perspective. Like you I do want us to be doing better than we are but we are FAR removed from the team that got to the CL quarter finals and we, as a fan base, need to accept it and stop raking up the past.

I fully appreciate that bad decisions have been made and I'm just as angry and disappointed as the next fan but I can't change that now so I'm going to support the team and try to be patient in the hope that what we are now building could lead us back to the CL eventually.

Quite frankly you've completed overreacted to my post. At no stage do I say we should be praying for a tenth place finish and at no stage did I say that fans were stupid for wanting top 4. All I'm saying is right now we have to realise where we are and try to appreciate that it's going to take time before we're back to being a top 4 team.

 

[diamondlight]

The sooner fans stop thinking we can make top 4, the sooner they will start to accept that anything from 6th to 10th is more likely and perfectly acceptable for Poch to achieve this season.

Why bother sacking Sherwood then?

 

[Bobbins]

I suspect he's picking players who are carrying out his instructions or 'bought' into his style of play and leaving those who haven't out which kind of hamstrings him.

As i've said elsewhere, popular opinion here on SC was that we'd finish 6th (ish) yet when our results are those of a team that'll achieve that, it isn't good enough.

Class acts.

But... they're not. Not even close.