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Poll: We need to clamp down on reckless charging goalkeepers

mawspurs

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Jun 29, 2003
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Leicester City's Nathan Dyer and Tottenham Hotspur’s Ryan Mason were battered by opposition goalkeepers when scoring their winning goals.

Read the full article at Daily Mail
 

Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
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Forgot the poll.

Nothing will change, been happening for decades. Klinnsmann was a great example.
 

dickieven

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Mar 31, 2006
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There was nothing wrong with the Mason goal in my view. The keeper is entitled to go for that. The Leicester one was different as the keeper jumped up at Dyer and should have been a foul i think for dangerous play (if he hadn't scored anyway)
 

UbeAstard

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May 31, 2005
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There was nothing wrong with the Mason goal in my view. The keeper is entitled to go for that. The Leicester one was different as the keeper jumped up at Dyer and should have been a foul i think for dangerous play (if he hadn't scored anyway)

I'm not even sure the Leicester one was reckless. The ball is in the air and the keeper has his eyes on that. How many times do we see keepers clattered in those situations? Also the fact that keepers can use their hands whereas no other players can means to me, when Poll says 'But if a defender caught an attacker in the same way, there would be a huge cry for red cards.' Hes talking tosh.
 

Misfit

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May 7, 2006
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Had the keeper saved the shot, this wouldn't even be a conversation. Poll seems to think the outcome should decide whether it's reckless or not. Or say the keeper got the ball first and the attacker made contact, throught the natural motion of trying to score, with the keeper. Should that should be viewed as reckless and maybe a red card or something?

I know it pains most involved at the higher levels of the game, for some reason, that this is still a contact sport in essence. But is it and from time to time injuries will occur through contact that was neither reckless nor malicious.

I'm as one-eye as any and if I thought the keeper set out to do one of our players I'd be baying along with the rest of crowd. However, if that had been our keeper, I'd have expected him to do the same thing.

On the replays one might question why the keeper's right leg seemed high but in real time I didn't notice anything and didn't think about it until this article. I really don't think it was a deliberate or malicious act though. Anymore than Mason's first touch was less than perfect so as to draw the keeper out.
 

Japhet

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the last thing we need is to make forwards more untouchable than they are already. They fall over in a light breeze as it is. If we prevent goalkeepers from challenging for a loose ball we might as well start watching netball.
 

Greenspur

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Sep 1, 2004
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I'd quite like to watch netball.
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UncleBuck

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Aug 20, 2003
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Not being funny but Schumacher v Battiston was a foul, got to stop with this namby panby bullshit...
 

longtimespur

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I'm one who thinks GKs are too well protected. (But I remember Bobby Smith). Our ref yesterday let Mason get away with a follow through stud sowing boot on Borini so why should he penalise Pants for momentum carrying him into Mason?
 

Donki

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Its a physical game, looking at incidents in hindsight is a little silly.
 

Hot$pur4Life

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The reason nothing will ever change is simply due to the fact goalies are a severely protected breed. For years now I've watched a striker bump into a keeper when challenging for a ball and the result is always. Yes it is a double standard, but they are willing to put there heads(like Cech) in place I would never conside. So I feel the protection is not completely unwarranted.
 

Block D Spurs

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Sep 2, 2014
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We have seen the game gradually get less Physical every couple of years.. It is a contact sport, and as such needs to be allowed to be so. Yes there are rules for bad and dangerous tackles / play. But lets not go overboard, led by the do gooders , ultra liberals / human rights campaigners in UK and at EU Brussels HQ.
 

FibreOpticJesus

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Aug 14, 2005
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I'm one who thinks GKs are too well protected. (But I remember Bobby Smith). Our ref yesterday let Mason get away with a follow through stud sowing boot on Borini so why should he penalise Pants for momentum carrying him into Mason?

If you think that was momentum then most free kicks wouldnt happen. If an out field player had made a similar tackle they would get a red card. Mason could have had his leg broken. If he had missed wouldnt you have shouted PEN?
 

Chris_D

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Feb 24, 2007
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The incidents at the weekend were in my view fair enough. Sometimes I think keepers get too much protection so any collision is a foul by the attacker, clearly that's not fair. Let both players go for the ball that's what happened both times and both times the forward got there first and scored. Yes, there were two collisions but in my view, neither keeper played the man so there's no penalty. I hope Mason will be ok, and I was hugely relieved he scored because I was starting to think we'd draw. No reason to change the rules, let both players go for the ball and let's keep hoping a Spurs player gets there first!
 

doom

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Dec 13, 2003
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I'm not used to going in goal but had to cover an injured goalkeeper the other day and after half an hour got kicked in the ribs - it was more like an assault than a challenge. The ref didn't even give a free kick so left me fuming and have been out of action for 4 weeks. Now I know why goalkeepers should get as much protection as possible.
 
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