PSG vs Tottenham Hotspur Match Thread

[glospur]

I think last nights game puts to bed any thoughts about whether CCV, KWP and Onomah are ready for the first team. They are nowhere near ready, we definitely need a backup for Trippier, if he gets injured/suspended I shudder to think what would happen if we had to play KWP at right back for any length of time.

Disagree.

Against quality opposition I thought the performances from Onomah and KWP were encouraging. Onomah was nominally listed as playing on the right, but similar to when Eriksen, Son or Dele are named out there he often came centrally and played as a 'rotating 10' to good effect. He drove us forward a number of times, passed well and pressed intelligently. He could still be better when he's in and around goal; I feel like he hesitates far too often when he gets in those positions, but other than that I thought he was pretty good.

KWP was decent defensively but showed a lot of promising attacking moments. I love the way he carries the ball with pace and he looked intelligent on it as well. I'd be fairly comfortable if he had to play a few games in the PL at RB.

CCV was definitely out of touch and arguably at fault for both goals. But I think he showed enough in his few appearances last season to show that there is a player there. Not really worried about him. CB's generally take a bit longer to find consistency anyway.

 

[Hot Spur]

I gess @glospur didn't watch the game and see the glaring mistakes CCV and KWP made that led to both PSG's goals. But he still disagrees anyway.

 

[glospur]

I gess @glospur didn't watch the game and see the glaring mistakes CCV and KWP made that led to both PSG's goals. But he still disagrees anyway.

Well I did, and considering there is a post just above yours that quotes you and lists my thoughts I'm surprised by this post.

 

[mpickard2087]

Yeah I thought KWP was fine in both attack and defence, and consider that it was pressure for him often outnumbered on his flank. The second goal didn't look good, but we know what Poch gets his fullbacks to do on goal kicks, go (very) high and wide. We lost the ball in our third directly from it. Let's not pretend similar hasn't happened before, with the ball turned over and Walker/Rose et al stranded up pitch. It's happened before, and will happen again with the way Poch gets them to play.

It's only one game, one half at that, but I thought it was a decent enough start from him.

 

[glospur]

We played with a flat back four not a back five, you need to anticipate the ball being lost and he was massively out of position for a right back, he was in line with eriksen when the ball was lost. He was far too forward.

But yeah I'm not sure what CCV was also doing, if he stayed inbetween the two attackers then he could have been able to come across and block pastore's shot.

He was high and wide because they are always the instructions for the fullbacks when we have a goal kick and it's reasonable to expect that we wouldn't lose the ball in the position in which we had it. If the player who ost the ball (I still cant remember if it was GKN or Dembele) had have actually done their job properly then KWP would have been perfectly placed for a cross field pass.

I think @Blake Griffin described it best in the youth thread. It was perhaps a little naive of KWP but not a glaring positional error.

 

[mike_l]

I think last nights game puts to bed any thoughts about whether CCV, KWP and Onomah are ready for the first team. They are nowhere near ready, we definitely need a backup for Trippier, if he gets injured/suspended I shudder to think what would happen if we had to play KWP at right back for any length of time.

Yeah fucking hell, if we had to play KWP we run the risk of him getting first team experience and improving his game, why the hell haven't we spunked 20m+ on a back up yet???

 

[JAYSTAR]

Great match to watch, lots to see and think about for Poch. Our first 11 are so strong and atm that includes Davies who played really well. Most of our attack went down the left.

We defo need to keep Wimmer as CB back up, with Dier as another option if it comes to rotating Toby and Verts, but I would prefer we got another CB in rather than rely on CCV tbh.

If we are moving away from 343 (which I hope we're not) and from 4231 to 4321 then it will mean our CBs can more easily be rotated, but we will also desperately need another CM. Wanyama and Dembele will need cover and Winks is ok, but we need someone else next to him. Onomah doesn't think quickly enough imo. Also, much as I appreciate him, Dier's tendency to play blind suicide passes still worries me when he plays in the middle.

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[dirtyh]

Well done lads. Credit to poch too for putting a few youngsters in. What a fucking experience to get, psg!! They'll only get better. Oh and fuck off sky painting the scouse win in a no mark shit competition against Leicester and West Brom and palace as the second coming of Christ ffs.

I fancy Kane to score 40 this season, just oozing confidence and looks imperious already.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

We played with a flat back four not a back five, you need to anticipate the ball being lost and he was massively out of position for a right back, he was in line with eriksen when the ball was lost. He was far too forward.

But yeah I'm not sure what CCV was also doing, if he stayed inbetween the two attackers then he could have been able to come across and block pastore's shot.

We don't ever play a flat back four, our fb's are always pushed up, this has been a criticism of our fb's whenever we concede a goal like this from the day Poch took over.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I think last nights game puts to bed any thoughts about whether CCV, KWP and Onomah are ready for the first team. They are nowhere near ready, we definitely need a backup for Trippier, if he gets injured/suspended I shudder to think what would happen if we had to play KWP at right back for any length of time.

What would happen is that he'd make far less idiotic mistakes than Walker made for his first 5 years, and would be technically better going forward whilst learning.

Jesus wept, it's like you haven't seen Walker or Trippier make mistakes, and it's not like KWP did anything drastically wrong or worse than any RB we've ever had has under Poch has done. He got caught forward by us sloppily giving the ball away, that's been happening to our fb's every week nearly for three years. It's why we switched to a 3cb system.

Why don't we reserve judgment until he's at least had a few games, in proper teams, surrounded by a settled first team in Europe not in his first game in an ad hoc team against one of Europe's best in a giant sauna.

 

[WiganSpur]

I think last nights game puts to bed any thoughts about whether CCV, KWP and Onomah are ready for the first team. They are nowhere near ready, we definitely need a backup for Trippier, if he gets injured/suspended I shudder to think what would happen if we had to play KWP at right back for any length of time.

KWP has had 45 minutes FFS. Onomah continues to be played out of position, he will never shine at RM or even CAM. CCV I tend to agree but he hasn't had a great deal of opportunity either to be fair.

3 more games this pre-season so let's give them these games before we rush to judgements.

 

[DEFchenkOE]

Went to the game with my wife and kids (kids first ever game) and really enjoyed it. The tailgate party was really good before hand and very well attended by spurs fans from all over the US and some from the UK.

Lots of music, food, games, giveaways and an appearance by Ledley.
The club are making some real efforts to engage with the US fans over here and its nice to see.

My wife was very surprised and impressed with the amount of fans we had out here, and the lady said before the game that we were the most googled Premier league team in the US last season.

Onto the game and we started quite sloppy, under pressure and it wasn't a real surprise when they went ahead. Unbelievable goal from Eriksen to equalise though.

Was nice to see KWP, Nkoudou, CCV and Onomah get starts. But disappointed that Poch still stuck Onomah on the right, just don't know why he plays him there. He just drifted in field most of the time and left KWP to attack down the wing which left CCV exposed and then his decision making didn't help things. Verts had to bail CCV out on a number of occasions. The right side really struggled defensively compared to the left where Dani Alves hardly got forward. Lovely finish from Pastore tbf, cut inside then postage stamp.

Was glad to see TOB get on in the second half, played out of position but he done ok considering. Trippier got tested defensively a few times by Di Maria who was on the left but he didn't do too bad.

Even though it was against 10 men in the end and the result is largely irrelevant I'm glad we got the win against a big team. We had a lot of fans there, quite a lot more than psg. And they would have all went home happy. Performance was a bit ropey at times but that's to be expected. Overall was an enjoyable game with a good crowd.

 

[TheChosenOne]

I've been looking everywhere for a report of the game, nothing in BBC online, found this in the Mail - sorry - but some great action photos in there as well - thought I'd share...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ham-4-2-Paris-Saint-Germain-Match-report.html

Especially the last pic which has an underline saying our first millennium player appeared.

 

[spursfan77]

I think last nights game puts to bed any thoughts about whether CCV, KWP and Onomah are ready for the first team. They are nowhere near ready, we definitely need a backup for Trippier, if he gets injured/suspended I shudder to think what would happen if we had to play KWP at right back for any length of time.

They should have been loaned out last season. I didn't watch the game last night but I know they need games. It's blatantly obvious they lack the experience and you don't get that from just training.

 

[gloriousbillynich]

I think last nights game puts to bed any thoughts about whether CCV, KWP and Onomah are ready for the first team. They are nowhere near ready, we definitely need a backup for Trippier, if he gets injured/suspended I shudder to think what would happen if we had to play KWP at right back for any length of time.

One pre season friendly doesn't put to bed anything at all.

 

[spursfan77]

Yeah fucking hell, if we had to play KWP we run the risk of him getting first team experience and improving his game, why the hell haven't we spunked 20m+ on a back up yet???

He's had no pro football. I wouldn't mind him getting games for us or someone else. He's a talent, just needs minutes.

 

[JimmyG2]

Why do people keep calling this just a 'friendly'
It was played in a very competitive spirit
(See Danny Alves) and they certainly wanted to win it.
Not the Champions' League I know but hardly a meaningless ad hoc game.
They only don't matter when you lose.
Encouraging all round to me.

 

[shelfboy68]

Why do people keep calling this just a 'friendly'
It was played in a very competitive spirit
(See Danny Alves) and they certainly wanted to win it.
Not the Champions' League I know but hardly a meaningless ad hoc game.
They only don't matter when you lose.
Encouraging all round to me.

Well said mate a winning mentality includes having a competitive edge to win meaningless friendlies.

 

[kcmei]

Did anyone see that Jese tackle on Alli?

 

[Ben1]

One thing that slightly frustrates me in here. Why are people allowed to praise the youngsters massively but the minute someone criticises, they get told to give him time before judging. Surely if people can't form a negative opinion in 45 minutes, you can't form a positive one either.