Qatar 2022

[Real_madyidd]

Just out of interest riggi, why would you want to go to saudi arabia when the world cup is in Qatar?

He didn't say he would. Just said that he wouldn't like Saudi to get the world cup.

Incidentally, it takes ages to get through passport control in Saudi for the first time, would be a terrible place for a world cup.

 

[riggi]

Just out of interest riggi, why would you want to go to saudi arabia when the world cup is in Qatar?

Na i was responding to a point about how the middle east having a world cup. I was just comparing the other options in that area.

 

[riggi]

Wasn't aware of this. Does this work the other way round for Saudis to Israel then?

Not as far as im aware but they will get the rubber glove treatment i reakon.

 

[beats1]

Israeli stamp.

What a lot of people is have two copies of thier passport to get round this

 

[riggi]

What a lot of people is have two copies of thier passport to get round this

Yup...not me lol

 

[riggi]

sorry I meant separate stamp on some paper

 

[tototoner]

Villas-Boas eyes amazing World Cup in Qatar

http://sport.bt.com/sportfootball/football/villasboas-eyes-amazing-world-cup-S11363824106347

Tottenham manager Andre Villas-Boas does not see any problem in switching the summer World Cup in Qatar to the winter months - and believes the tournament has the potential to be "absolutely outstanding".

Football Association chairman Greg Dyke has warned that a summer World Cup in the Arab state - which will host the tournament in 2022 - could be dangerous for players and fans alike due to the extreme temperatures which typically peak above 100 degrees Fahrenheit in June.

The concern among Premier League chiefs, however, would be a significant disruption to the domestic season should the World Cup be moved to the winter, but Spurs boss Villas-Boas feels the change would be "absolutely fine" given the difficulties presented by the heat.

He said after Tottenham's 1-1 friendly draw with Espanyol: "I was invited out there, and from what I have seen, it was absolutely amazing. This is my personal opinion.

"Obviously there are difficulties. It is a complete new thing and a lot of things are going to be tested in a World Cup like that. From what I saw, it is going to be absolutely outstanding.

"There are conditions, there are structures, there is the financial power to give the fans everything they dream of to make it a wonderful experience, so I would bet that everything would go alright.

"If it is going to disrupt the Premier League, it would not only be the Premier League, it would be other leagues, but hopefully it can prove a great experience for everybody.

"If it is summer, they have to do something different, but at the moment I think a winter World Cup is absolutely fine. It is something which FIFA has to answer."

 

[LSUY]

To me the fact that the Vice-President of FIFA has come out and said that they didn't fully consider the implications of playing the tournament in the Middle East during summer means they shouldn't be the governing body for football. But then again I guess it's hard to fully consider everything when you're too busy counting the money in the brown envelope.

Also, the VP wants the tournament to be from January to February and I'm guessing December would have to be cleared of domestic fixtures as well in order for the competing national sides to prepare. That's potentially 14 league fixtures, 4 FA Cup rounds, 3 League Cup rounds (not forgetting the semi's are two legs) and 5 matches in the Europa League that need to be rescheduled. I'm struggling to think how that could be fitted in without effecting the following season.

 

[Wolver]

Also, the VP wants the tournament to be from January to February and I'm guessing December would have to be cleared of domestic fixtures as well in order for the competing national sides to prepare. That's potentially 14 league fixtures, 4 FA Cup rounds, 3 League Cup rounds (not forgetting the semi's are two legs) and 5 matches in the Europa League that need to be rescheduled. I'm struggling to think how that could be fitted in without effecting the following season.

I'd suppose the season would have to be moved to the summer over the course of a few years.... maybe by shorting the summer break over a couple of seasons, so the season starts and ends earlier, but staggering it so the players still get a break... Can't see the summer sports liking that very much though.

Surely if the bid was for a summer tourny then legal action could be taken by all the FA's as a winter games wasn't in the contract..?

 

[portogirl]

I'd suppose the season would have to be moved to the summer over the course of a few years.... maybe by shorting the summer break over a couple of seasons, so the season starts and ends earlier, but staggering it so the players still get a break... Can't see the summer sports liking that very much though.

Surely if the bid was for a summer tourny then legal action could be taken by all the FA's as a winter games wasn't in the contract..?

I think there could also be legal action by the other bidding countries who lost out to Qatar on the basis of Summer bid. Just goes to show what a sham organisation FIFA really is

 

[tototoner]

I'd suppose the season would have to be moved to the summer over the course of a few years.... maybe by shorting the summer break over a couple of seasons, so the season starts and ends earlier, but staggering it so the players still get a break... Can't see the summer sports liking that very much though.

Surely if the bid was for a summer tourny then legal action could be taken by all the FA's as a winter games wasn't in the contract..?

100% this will happen, for the 2020-21, 2021-22 and 2022-23 seasons

 

[Riandor]

Bribery and corruption, no other reason. Growing the football brand across the globe is a b0ll0x excuse... FIFA have had their pockets lined, end of.

Question marks over the Russia WC too let's not forget what a great country that is with their racism and anti gay laws... yep another fun festival for all the family.

It's a sham, but it's a sham we are going to have to play along with because it would be too costly to take the moral high ground and not be part of it.

GOvernments are aren't allowed to govern the sport, so FIFA can govern it, but who is watching the watchmen eh?!

 

[hellava_tough]

I'd suppose the season would have to be moved to the summer over the course of a few years.... maybe by shorting the summer break over a couple of seasons, so the season starts and ends earlier, but staggering it so the players still get a break... Can't see the summer sports liking that very much though.

Surely if the bid was for a summer tourny then legal action could be taken by all the FA's as a winter games wasn't in the contract..?

Or the TV companies - it completely screws up their scheduling and advertising deals

 

[tototoner]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24035098

Qatar World Cup 2022: Top clubs 'open' to winter tournament

Europe's leading clubs have stated that they are "open" to the possibility of a winter World Cup in Qatar in 2022.

Fifa chief Sepp Blatter has called for the tournament to be moved because of concern over how players would cope in summer temperatures of 40C and above.

Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, the chairman of the European Club Association, which represents the top teams, said: "It is probably better to play it in winter.

"We're not in a hurry, there are still nine years to go."

Since Qatar won the right to host the World Cup in 2010, the practicalities of staging a summer competition in the Middle East have been debated.

After voicing his own concerns in July, Blatter said he would consult the host nation and his executive committee about his proposals to have the World Cup moved to the winter.

The Swiss Fifa president has also suggested that it might have been a "mistake" to award the Gulf state the World Cup.
Rummenigge added: "Having the World Cup in Qatar is not a mistake.

"After visiting Qatar at our last general assembly we had a good feeling about the organisation of a World Cup there."
Football Association chairman Greg Dyke told the BBC in August that a summer World Cup in Qatar would be "impossible".

However, the Premier League has taken an opposing stance, with chief executive Richard Scudamore saying: "My view is you can do it in the summer.

"The bid was extremely thorough, they dealt with all the issues about the heat and the managing of the air conditioning in the stadiums."

There are 10 English teams who are members of the European Club Association - Arsenal, Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton, Fulham, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Newcastle and Tottenham.

The ECA is an independent body representing the interests of Europe's clubs. It replaced the G14 Group and the European Club Forum in 2008 and is recognised by both Fifa and Uefa.

There are 214 members, with an executive board headed by Bayern Munich chief executive Rummenigge, who was re-elected as chairman on Tuesday.

 

[AmericanSpur]

Or the TV companies - it completely screws up their scheduling and advertising deals

I can actually see Fox, who I believe has the Qatar US tv rights, being upset and losing some serious ratings numbers. The US likes the World Cup as the nation likes events and summer events, when people have vacations and school breaks, are very conducive to watching daytime sports events. Witht he 7-11 hour time difference between Qatar and the continental US, Fox wouldn't have planned for evening football but could have expected folks to watch games before getting their days into high gear. With the push to have games in November, December, and/or January, Fox will lose a lot of those viewers. Shame really.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

100% this will happen, for the 2020-21, 2021-22 and 2022-23 seasons

100%? Come on TTT, we're talking about football here. Nothing is ever 100%, you know that, I think you probably mean 'Your onions'

It's a disgrace that Blatter still has a job after several events actually, but to come out and say they didn't fully consider it? What did they think? Temperatures would be 18-22 degrees? Fucking hell, the biggest simpleton of all time would have thought of the heat as soon as they saw the name 'Qatar' *Insert usual rant about self serving corrupt twatdrummers running the game here*

For the season immediately before the WC I quite like the option I saw which was to rejig the calendar and start the season a couple of weeks early, have a mid season break for the world cup and start the season off again a few days before the WC ends (just before SF and Final) so that clubs would only be missing a (relatively) few players for one or two games and close the season a couple of weeks later. That way you tag the missing time onto the front and back ends of one season and cut back slightly on the closure in the middle. There's no real need to disrupt three seasons to such a great degree IMO as long as they have the will and the minerals to do it.

The most I would do for the seasons immediately before and after the WC season, if they cut back on a couple of the mandatory international friendly breaks it would allow the FA of each country a bit of leeway for the scheduling of the regular season fixtures/comps to they could finish one season a bit earlier and start the last one a little bit later. But I think the 'major' disruption will be in WC year itself.

IMO we'll see it moved to winter and a way will be found to keep disruption to a minimum. I really can't see them being silly enough to completely move seasons to the summer and if they are, I can't see the national associations allowing it. Having said that, they were silly enough to give it to Qatar in the first place!

Who knows what will happen, it's a divisive issue, we could see civil war break out between the clubs and FIFA (or essentially UEFA v FIFA). All we need is for England not to qualify and there will be ructions!

Onions. Great big onions.

 

[punky]

As Scudamore says, Qatar's bid claimed to be able to manage the heat effectively with cloud seeding and air-conditioning. They even mentioned a specific maximum temperature in the bid (I think like 27 degrees). If they are renaging on this then surely Fifa have the right to move it somewhere else. My guess is that they don't want to lose the money.

I'm surprised other options aren't considered such a making all the venues indoor or holding games at 3am.

 

[dagraham]

IMO we'll see it moved to winter and a way will be found to keep disruption to a minimum. I really can't see them being silly enough to completely move seasons to the summer and if they are, I can't see the national associations allowing it. Having said that, they were silly enough to give it to Qatar in the first place!

I think you are giving FIFA and Blatter way, way too much of the benefit of the doubt.

IMO whatever they decide to do will display the most backwards logic imaginable and cause the biggest clusterfuck they can concieve of.

 

[tototoner]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24070322

World Cup 2022: Qatar chief rejects calls to move finals

The head of the Qatar 2022 World Cup has rejected calls for the tournament to be awarded to another country.

Governing body Fifa is expected to move the tournament to winter to avoid Qatar's high summer temperatures.

And Football Association chairman Greg Dyke said the tournament might have to move location if a suitable time to play in Qatar could not be agreed.

But Hassan al-Thawadi insists there is "no reason" why Qatar should not host the event as planned in 2022.

"We've worked very, very hard to ensure we're within the rules of the bidding, within the rules of the hosting agreement," he told BBC Sport.

"At the same time we're delivering on all the promises that we've made. We're working very hard to deliver it. The commitment is there."

Fifa president Sepp Blatter is determined to switch the 2022 World Cup to the winter as summer temperatures can reach 50C in the Middle Eastern country.

Blatter, 77, has admitted the governing body may have made a "mistake" in awarding the tournament to Qatar in the summer.

"[Qatar] is the right place, the Middle East is the right place," said Al-Thawadi, who is Secretary General of the Qatar 2022 Organising Committee.

"We are representing the Middle East, it is a Middle Eastern World Cup, so it is the right place. The Middle East deserves to host a major tournament."

FA chairman Dyke told the BBC in August that a summer World Cup in Qatar, who defeated rival bids from South Korea, Japan,
Australia and the United States in December 2010, would be "impossible".

The Premier League has taken an opposing stance, with chief executive Richard Scudamore insisting the tournament should go ahead in the summer.

However, Europe's leading clubs have said they are "open" to the possibility of a winter World Cup in Qatar in 2022.

Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, chairman of the European Club Association (ECA) believes it is "probably" better to switch the finals to winter.

The ECA is an independent body representing the interests of Europe's leading clubs. Ten English clubs are members - Arsenal, Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton, Fulham, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Newcastle and Tottenham.

Hear more from Hassan al-Thawadi on BBC Radio 5 live sport from 19:00 BST on Friday, and 12:15 BST Saturday on Football Focus.

 

[tiger666]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24070322

World Cup 2022: Qatar chief rejects calls to move finals

The head of the Qatar 2022 World Cup has rejected calls for the tournament to be awarded to another country.

Governing body Fifa is expected to move the tournament to winter to avoid Qatar's high summer temperatures.

And Football Association chairman Greg Dyke said the tournament might have to move location if a suitable time to play in Qatar could not be agreed.

But Hassan al-Thawadi insists there is "no reason" why Qatar should not host the event as planned in 2022.

"We've worked very, very hard to ensure we're within the rules of the bidding, within the rules of the hosting agreement," he told BBC Sport.

"At the same time we're delivering on all the promises that we've made. We're working very hard to deliver it. The commitment is there."

Fifa president Sepp Blatter is determined to switch the 2022 World Cup to the winter as summer temperatures can reach 50C in the Middle Eastern country.

Blatter, 77, has admitted the governing body may have made a "mistake" in awarding the tournament to Qatar in the summer.

"[Qatar] is the right place, the Middle East is the right place," said Al-Thawadi, who is Secretary General of the Qatar 2022 Organising Committee.

"We are representing the Middle East, it is a Middle Eastern World Cup, so it is the right place. The Middle East deserves to host a major tournament."

FA chairman Dyke told the BBC in August that a summer World Cup in Qatar, who defeated rival bids from South Korea, Japan,
Australia and the United States in December 2010, would be "impossible".

The Premier League has taken an opposing stance, with chief executive Richard Scudamore insisting the tournament should go ahead in the summer.

However, Europe's leading clubs have said they are "open" to the possibility of a winter World Cup in Qatar in 2022.

Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, chairman of the European Club Association (ECA) believes it is "probably" better to switch the finals to winter.

The ECA is an independent body representing the interests of Europe's leading clubs. Ten English clubs are members - Arsenal, Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton, Fulham, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Newcastle and Tottenham.

Hear more from Hassan al-Thawadi on BBC Radio 5 live sport from 19:00 BST on Friday, and 12:15 BST Saturday on Football Focus.

Hassan al-Thawadi can insist Qatar deserves it all he wants but he doesn't address the issue of the 50c heat.