Qatar 2022

['O Zio]

I can see him doing that Hiddink did with South Korea and bascially working with his squad for 6-9 months prior to the tournament, Qatar will probably pay all the players club wages for the duration

Yeah you could be right. All depends on what his club situation is at the time I suppose.

 

[Saoirse]

I can also see Qatar doing a major drive soon to "grant citizenship" to overseas players

Thankfully that doesn't work these days - under FIFA rules if you're not a natural-born citizen of a country (born there, or have parents or grandparents born there) you have to live there for five years before you can play for them, even if they give you citizenship before that. Brought in I think early 2000s after a few teams, Qatar included, did try the "give passports to random Brazillians" plan.

 

[spursfan77]

Interesting quotes from Guardiola in a Telegraph article today, he'll manage Qatar in their World Cup IMHO

I can also see Qatar doing a major drive soon to "grant citizenship" to overseas players

During a wide-ranging discussion – which included his views on politics, culture and poetry as well as sport – the City manager was asked if there was anything as a manager he had not yet achieved and aspired to, such as international football.

Guardiola, who took charge of City at the start of the 2016-17 season, replied: "I would like to be an international manager in a national team.

"Sooner or later, it will happen because every three days I would like to be involved, but a little bit more calm, play more golf... now I do not have time to play.

"So yes, sooner or later it is going to happen, if I have a chance and some international team wants to come 'knock knock' [at my door]. We will see."

Ive been saying for a while that I think he will end up their manager for this tournament.

Hadn't they been trying to grant citizenship to lots of young players and try to mould them into a team for this tournament. I'm sure i read a few years ago that was a plan of theirs. Edit: just seen the post above, I definitely thought they were looking at this but if thats the case then I must be wrong.

 

[Saoirse]

Ive been saying for a while that I think he will end up their manager for this tournament.

Hadn't they been trying to grant citizenship to lots of young players and try to mould them into a team for this tournament. I'm sure i read a few years ago that was a plan of theirs. Edit: just seen the post above, I definitely thought they were looking at this but if thats the case then I must be wrong.

I had heard the same but if they did try it they weren't very succesful. There's three players I can see at the top Qatari clubs who look like they might be part of such a strategy - Lucas Mendes at El Jaish and now Al-Duhail, Jugurtha Hamroun at Al-Sadd and Diogo Amado at
Al-Gharafa. But none of them are exactly household names anyway and it's too late now to bring any more through. They largely seem to be trying the opposite now - bribing Spanish clubs to take some younger Qataris on loan in the hopes they can develop in Europe in time for the tournament. Very few seem to have actually merited gametime though so far.

 

[Hakkz]

Thankfully that doesn't work these days - under FIFA rules if you're not a natural-born citizen of a country (born there, or have parents or grandparents born there) you have to live there for five years before you can play for them, even if they give you citizenship before that. Brought in I think early 2000s after a few teams, Qatar included, did try the "give passports to random Brazillians" plan.

Thank fuck for that.

 

[Lilbaz]

Interesting quotes from Guardiola in a Telegraph article today, he'll manage Qatar in their World Cup IMHO

I can also see Qatar doing a major drive soon to "grant citizenship" to overseas players

During a wide-ranging discussion – which included his views on politics, culture and poetry as well as sport – the City manager was asked if there was anything as a manager he had not yet achieved and aspired to, such as international football.

Guardiola, who took charge of City at the start of the 2016-17 season, replied: "I would like to be an international manager in a national team.

"Sooner or later, it will happen because every three days I would like to be involved, but a little bit more calm, play more golf... now I do not have time to play.

"So yes, sooner or later it is going to happen, if I have a chance and some international team wants to come 'knock knock' [at my door]. We will see."

He'd have balls of steel to leave a uae club for qatar in the current political environment.

 

[NinjaTuna]

Guardiola's a massive hypocritical wanker so i don't think he'll have any problems accepting the Qatar role if he's offered it.
The guy coaches great football but at the end of the day, he's a ****, so fuck him

 

[buckley]

It seems that no one in FIFA had the balls to say"you can't hold a competition on the middle of other countries season or in a country thats temperature is too hot to play in country that has no history of football and therefore this cannot take place"Just goes to show that oil money reaches parts others can't reach .This total disregard for fans also includes the also corruptEUFA; note Man City and PSG in relation to FFP rules ;they might as well not be there unless you are among the clubs who are not able or not willing to bribe the corrupt
FIFA and EUFA officials.

 

[TheChosenOne]

It seems that no one in FIFA had the balls to say"you can't hold a competition on the middle of other countries season or in a country thats temperature is too hot to play in country that has no history of football and therefore this cannot take place"Just goes to show that oil money reaches parts others can't reach .This total disregard for fans also includes the also corruptEUFA; note Man City and PSG in relation to FFP rules ;they might as well not be there unless you are among the clubs who are not able or not willing to bribe the corrupt
FIFA and EUFA officials.

Less than 4 years now to the start date 21st November 2022

 

[spursfan77]

Less than 4 years now to the start date 21st November 2022

Its all gone a bit quiet in the media about how ridiculous the timing of the tournament is. Surely the calendar will have to be changed massively. Im not sure how they will do it.

 

['O Zio]

Its all gone a bit quiet in the media about how ridiculous the timing of the tournament is. Surely the calendar will have to be changed massively. Im not sure how they will do it.

There's not much they can do other than either start the season early or play later into the summer afterwards, or probably the best compromise would be to do a bit of both so e.g. if the season is going to be put on hold for 6 weeks for the world cup, start the season 3 weeks early and finish 3 weeks later than usual. To be honest it's not that complicated to sort out, the point is more that they should never have been put in this situation in the first place.

 

[tototoner]

In most European countries they will move their winter break forward so it's the same time as the World Cup, and probably start season a few weeks earlier and finish a few weeks later.

UEFA have yet to decide what will happen with Champions and Europa Leagues

 

[Lilbaz]

In most European countries they will move their winter break forward so it's the same time as the World Cup, and probably start season a few weeks earlier and finish a few weeks later.

UEFA have yet to decide what will happen with Champions and Europa Leagues

We're introducing a winter break next season.

 

[allatsea]

In most European countries they will move their winter break forward so it's the same time as the World Cup, and probably start season a few weeks earlier and finish a few weeks later.

UEFA have yet to decide what will happen with Champions and Europa Leagues

What happens when winter actually happens though if the winter break is brought forward ? The season could end up as an absolute shambles if the winter is bad and they have had their break.

 

[nailsy]

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...022-40-a-week-to-build-the-world-cup-stadiums

Aged between 28 and 38, all married with at least one child, they acknowledged that the camp was decent; they had Ghanaian friends in other camps which were dirty, and had no food or amenities. Then they started to talk about the pay.

“It is hard to be away for so long,” one said. “Sometimes the family want to have you in their midst – and you may not have money to send them. We were supposed to earn something big – but we earn small.”

Asked how much, one of them opened his eyes wide in exasperation, and said: “650 a month basic salary.”

For building one of the prestige stadiums designed so Qatar can dazzle the world in 2022, eight hours a day, six days a week, this is £140: a little under £35 per week; £5 per day.

Like all the migrants working in Qatar, the money they send home is not extra; it is primary income to support their families. The Ghanaians said they still have expenses in Qatar, although food and accommodation is taken care of, and the money is not enough.

 

[Lilbaz]

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...022-40-a-week-to-build-the-world-cup-stadiums

Aged between 28 and 38, all married with at least one child, they acknowledged that the camp was decent; they had Ghanaian friends in other camps which were dirty, and had no food or amenities. Then they started to talk about the pay.

“It is hard to be away for so long,” one said. “Sometimes the family want to have you in their midst – and you may not have money to send them. We were supposed to earn something big – but we earn small.”

Asked how much, one of them opened his eyes wide in exasperation, and said: “650 a month basic salary.”

For building one of the prestige stadiums designed so Qatar can dazzle the world in 2022, eight hours a day, six days a week, this is £140: a little under £35 per week; £5 per day.

Like all the migrants working in Qatar, the money they send home is not extra; it is primary income to support their families. The Ghanaians said they still have expenses in Qatar, although food and accommodation is taken care of, and the money is not enough.

Sounds bad but when in cambodia a friend introduced me to his family. His father was a soldier and earned $20 a week. This is going back a few years though.

 

[nailsy]

Sounds bad but when in cambodia a friend introduced me to his family. His father was a soldier and earned $20 a week. This is going back a few years though.

There's a massive difference between the two nations though. A poor country paying poor wages is to be expected. Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world and has the highest standard of living in the world for its legal citizens. There's no income tax there. Surely a country with no income tax can afford to pay it's workers a fair wage?

 

[Lilbaz]

There's a massive difference between the two nations though. A poor country paying poor wages is to be expected. Qatar is one of the richest countries in the world and has the highest standard of living in the world for its legal citizens. There's no income tax there. Surely a country with no income tax can afford to pay it's workers a fair wage?

Not sticking up for qatar. But they are not going to pay high wages if they don't have to and people wouldn't go there to work if they could get better.

 

[nailsy]

Not sticking up for qatar. But they are not going to pay high wages if they don't have to and people wouldn't go there to work if they could get better.

I know you're not sticking up for them Baz . Why wouldn't they pay more than they have to? Lots of countries have a fair minimum wage. And a lot of the workers who've travelled over there have been lied to about how much they earn. I'd love to know what their bid said about how they'd pay for the stadium.

 

[nailsy]

The guy who wrote that article for The Guardian was on Football Weekly a few days ago and he was talking about Xavier who plays in Qatar now. He plays for Al Sadd SC the most successful team in the country who have a capacity of 12,946. He went to one of the games there and he said there was less than 500 people watching the game. Apparently the average attendance in the league is 672. And they've got a world cup.