Quick RB Poll

[Nebby]

This is another weird scapegoat situation. Anybody acting like Aurier was bad yesterday is either being deliberately disingenuous, or letting their preconceived perception of him cloud their judgement. He was FAR more solid defensively than Trippier has been of late. Going forward, he was ass tbf, but at least he was a constant outlet and linked well with Lucas at times, Davies was far more profligate.

It was Aurier's very first involvement in the game that led to us losing possession, a break into the channel and their first corner and goal. If that's what passes for solid defending these days, we're in a whole heap of trouble.

 

[Spurrific]

It was Aurier's very first involvement in the game that led to us losing possession, a break into the channel and their first corner and goal. If that's what passes for solid defending these days, we're in a whole heap of trouble.

Give me a break. The corner is a completely new phase in play and conceding was absolutely nothing to do with Aurier. Dele lost his man. If there needs to be blame apportioned, it falls at Dele's feet. How many stupid free kicks did we concede on our left hand side, from Davies swiping away at everybody's legs? Do we need to list all the set-pieces Davies conceded to see whether Aurier had a good game. Leading to one corner is hardly reason to chastise him - his dogshit crossing yesterday is fair criticism.

Trippier losing in the air to Sterling against City, proceeding to get skinned like a grizzly bear in Red Dead Redemption 2, then sliding off the pitch like a meme was a contribution that genuinely led to us conceding - to save you from confusion in the future.

Defenders concede corners, it is dim to blame a defender who conceded the corner for a goal from it. We should have been able to mark properly.

I have said before - I think Trippier should be playing still. His passing forwards is a great asset. He is a distinctly average defender, though. Aurier is a much better defender than he is.

 

[McArchibald]

Actually, having digested last night's display, I think we need to upgrade on RB. Trippier can only play Wingback and Aurier's lack of control always leaves me disapointed.
Time to cut our losses on Aurier and bring in a new fullback. Aké comes to mind, but perhaps PSV's Denzell Dumfries is one to watch...

 

[TheAwsPhil]

1st attack came down his side, he was nowhere to be found...didn't point any fingers though. Then they scored from a corner with a header.
(Uh-oh...better not give away any silly corners or free kicks.)
First touch near opposition corner flag, out for a goal kick.
Then he lets the ball run out for a corner after it coming off Moura...either wasn't paying attention or wasn't sure, which means he took a risk...after what happened at the start of the game.
His decision making was regularly brutal, he didn't have much defending to do and the little he did, I personally did not think he did too well...and PSV (like a Carabao West Ham) are far from a good side tbh.
From an attacking perspective, his short play wasn't great and I think he put one decent ball in during the whole match.
From everything I've seen in his Spurs career so far, including his two recent starts, he is an accident waiting to happen.

A 5 rating last night would have been generous IMO...I can't understand the apologists after last night's performance. Easily our worst player.

Aurier was a huge part in nullifying PSV counter attacking threats in the players of Lozano and Bergwijn. Which is first and foremost his first priority. Granted his touch and decision making in the final third was wayward and Trippier is much better in those situations, but Aurier delivers something which Trippier doesn't do and that is creating width, penetration of the oppositions defense and commiting defenders. He completed 5 dribbles and was in the oppsitions box several times.

Result wise it didn't pay off since his crossing and passing wasn't pinpoint, but doing these things have an intangible effect on the whole team performance and that is creating space for important players, such as Dele and Eriksen so they are able to thrive. In my eyes Aurier delivered an average Kyle Walker performance, which in my eyes are better than a Trippier performance, unless Trippier delivers a Real Madrid performance.

Also the narrative about Aurier being an accident waiting is tiring since Tripper has literally been an accident waiting this whole season and several key games last season.
Trippier huge mistakes this season and last season: Man city x3, Burnley, Chelsea, Liverpool, Wolves, Barcelona.

I will agree that Trippier is more composed at defending in our penalty box than Aurier, and Aurier showed his lack of composure at defending in our penalty box with Brighton, Real madrid and Juventus games.

 

[Nebby]

Give me a break. The corner is a completely new phase in play and conceding was absolutely nothing to do with Aurier. Dele lost his man. If there needs to be blame apportioned, it falls at Dele's feet. How many stupid free kicks did we concede on our left hand side, from Davies swiping away at everybody's legs? Do we need to list all the set-pieces Davies conceded to see whether Aurier had a good game. Leading to one corner is hardly reason to chastise him - his dogshit crossing yesterday is fair criticism.

Trippier losing in the air to Sterling against City, proceeding to get skinned like a grizzly bear in Red Dead Redemption 2, then sliding off the pitch like a meme was a contribution that genuinely led to us conceding - to save you from confusion in the future.

Defenders concede corners, it is dim to blame a defender who conceded the corner for a goal from it. We should have been able to mark properly.

I have said before - I think Trippier should be playing still. His passing forwards is a great asset. He is a distinctly average defender, though. Aurier is a much better defender than he is.

Sure, you can blame Dele, but you have to accept that he was blocked off (rather cleverly) from tracking De Jung's run into the box. Don't know how you can dismiss Aurier's mindless contribution though. His first touch of the ball and he plays a poorly executed and high-risk "pass" into Lucas and then gets himself stranded in no-mans land while they break down our right flank and win the corner. It was so poor; almost school-boy stuff. He doesn't learn.

 

[TheAwsPhil]

With Aurier:

With Trippier:

 

[Shadydan]

With Aurier:

With Trippier:

What does this mean?

 

[TheAwsPhil]

What does this mean?

It means we had a much better performance than last time??

 

[Shadydan]

It means we had a much better performance than last time??

*sigh*

Can someone explain in a little detail what this is meant to represent and the relevance to it.

Also if you're comparing the two matches then it's a total non starter.

 

[Paolo10]

Are you lads seriously going to try and dress that rubbish up last night as some kind of good shift from Serge? Lol.

 

[Spurrific]

Are you lads seriously going to try and dress that rubbish up last night as some kind of good shift from Serge? Lol.

You seem to do it with Trippier every time he plays? Also, it makes you look so immature saying shit like "lol". Where your posts on the subject read like you're posting them whilst you fight through tears, might be best not to try and be condescending.

 

[Shadydan]

You seem to do it with Trippier every time he plays? Also, it makes you look so immature saying shit like "lol". Where your posts on the subject read like you're posting them whilst you fight through tears, might be best not to try and be condescending.

I actually cringe every time he posts on the subject now.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Actually, having digested last night's display, I think we need to upgrade on RB. Trippier can only play Wingback and Aurier's lack of control always leaves me disapointed.
Time to cut our losses on Aurier and bring in a new fullback. Aké comes to mind, but perhaps PSV's Denzell Dumfries is one to watch...

The lad Wan-Bissaka at Crystal Palace looks a good prospect.. Maybe worth a punt?

 

[Paolo10]

I honestly think it's laughable. Sorry, but the LOL's are genuine.

 

[vicbob]

Fuck me this Team Trippier or Team Aurier bollocks is becoming a bit cringe worthy and taking over so many threads. You can't criticize or praise either one without getting jumped on from the usual suspects on the other "team".

Lets be honest, neither are pulling up trees at the moment and need to get their fingers out of their arses. Its such a shame as I remember not so long ago having 2 of the best FB's in the league in Rose and Walker, and now both FB positions are a massive problem for us.

 

[TheAwsPhil]

Are you lads seriously going to try and dress that rubbish up last night as some kind of good shift from Serge? Lol.

You certainly acts like an adult. Fair enough that I have not been able to make you see Trippier and Aurier from another perspective than Aurier = shite , Trippier = best rb in the world. I just simply try to argue positives and negatives with both players but you don't seem very willing to look at it in any other way than your way. So when that is the case there is literally no point in discussing with you.

You would do fantastic on twitter...

Have a good day. LOL

 

[Nebby]

Fuck me this Team Trippier or Team Aurier bollocks is becoming a bit cringe worthy and taking over so many threads. You can't criticize or praise either one without getting jumped on from the usual suspects on the other "team".

Lets be honest, neither are pulling up trees at the moment and need to get their fingers out of their arses. Its such a shame as I remember not so long ago having 2 of the best FB's in the league in Rose and Walker, and now both FB positions are a massive problem for us.

Let's hope that when we have all of our centre backs fit and available, Poch will revert to three at the back. Toby looks better on the right, Sanchez looks better in the middle, and our slightly-dodgy full backs can become wing backs again. Might mean we also start pressing again, moving the ball quickly again, and getting the ball into Kane early again. That would be nice.

 

[am_yisrael_chai]

Fuck me this Team Trippier or Team Aurier bollocks is becoming a bit cringe worthy and taking over so many threads. You can't criticize or praise either one without getting jumped on from the usual suspects on the other "team".

Lets be honest, neither are pulling up trees at the moment and need to get their fingers out of their arses. Its such a shame as I remember not so long ago having 2 of the best FB's in the league in Rose and Walker, and now both FB positions are a massive problem for us.

I’m in Team Buy A New RB ?

100% agree how depressing it is to go from the strongest FB pairing in the league to what we have now in less than 2 years

 

[HarryKane]

I’m in Team Buy A New RB ?

100% agree how depressing it is to go from the strongest FB pairing in the league to what we have now in less than 2 years

KWP & Wan-Bissaka hype train for next season starts here

 

[Lou3000]

In my opinion it is all down to how you'd prefer to see us play. In 16/17 Walker/Rose were basically a second set of inverted wingers. They made direct attacking runs and rarely made an endline run to put in a cross. Trippier's best attribute is his cross. The highest risk, lowest reward attacking tactic, and a Mourinho United favorite to bore the opposition to death.

Last night against PSV, Aurier created a number of dangerous attacking moves and put in a vintage Kyle Walker-esque performance. Also, he has the pure athletic ability to actually get back in defense.

He does some really, really dumb things that I wish we could get out of his game, but at the end of the day, I'm more confident in his defensive ability and way more confident in his attack.