Race for the Title 2017/18

Discussion in 'Spurs Chat' started by am_yisrael_chai, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. ohtottenham!

    ohtottenham! Well-Known Member

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    City have pretty much handled anyone they've played in the PL and CL apart from their home draw against Everton early in the season. Includes winning away at Chelsea, handily at home against Arsenal and Liverpool, home and away against Napoli, and some silly winning margins home and away.
     
  2. tototoner

    tototoner SC Supporter

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    I just looked at my calendar again and it's still early November.

    You don't win the the league in November, if City are still unbeaten in March and 10 points ahead of us then I'll concede they will probably win the league, not now.
     
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  3. ohtottenham!

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    I agree, and think we can actually take anyone on our day, and that it's early days to call any PL, CL or any other title race. That's different to acknowledging the fact that a competitor, City right now are performing at a level that is the benchmark for the PL.

    The CL's always going to be different, especially in the group stages with the big teams often just doing enough to qualify for the knockout stages. For us, this season's been a huge step up on every front, and it's just November...
     
  4. LexingtonSpurs

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    If they are 10 points ahead in January - barring a catastrophic run of injuries they will win the league - just as Chelsea did last season.

    Having said that, I think the race will tighten significantly over the festive period...
     
  5. Shadydan

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    Chelsea played one game a week last season.
     
  6. tototoner

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    It's the amount of so called "experts" that are already saying City will go the season unbeaten that really wind me up. Yes Jim White I am talking about you.
     
  7. Spurger King

    Spurger King can't smile without glue

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    I’m not saying they’re not doing well. They’re clearly in great form and deserve as much credit as a bottomless pit of money can buy a tinpot club like the Sheik Mansour team, but I’m not declaring them unstoppable just yet.
     
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  8. LexingtonSpurs

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    It's not that, City could drop points, but realistically, the chasers would drop points against each other, making it difficult to make up that ground.

    Like I said though, I think it's a much smaller gap by January. Spurs will go on a run from now to January - including a win at City.
     
  9. ohtottenham!

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    Agree with all that, but I don't understand how they've had a relatively easy run so far.
     
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  10. spursfan77

    spursfan77 Well-Known Member

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    This is it. Imagine they'd of had our injuries?

    Theres no way they would be top if they had missed Fernandinho (wanyama) all season for example.
     
  11. dontcallme

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    At the beginning of last season many were saying the same about Chelsea.

    It's like every year people forget how long a season is.
     
  12. walton

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    City are strees ahead of the rest of the league just now - their attacking potency is immense and i expect them to win the league with ease, breaking goalscoring records along the way. I know it's in the DNA of some fans to be bitter towards any team doing better than us, but not sure people's beef with City. They've spent loads, but they're not alone in doing so; they actually spent very wisely in the transfer window and have a squad capable of executing their gung-ho style. Compare them with Everton, Liverpool, even us after the Bale money...money does not guarantee success.

    Would certainly prefer to lose the title to them playing the kind of football they do, than to anyone else - especially the current United incarnation.
     
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  13. Lighty64

    Lighty64 Glory Glory

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    definitely possible, but as SP has said, their squad isn't fully covered for any real injuries in defence. at the moment they are having to play Delph at left back, and he has an injury history. this weekend they are short of a centre back, and their style does favour Leicester's counter attacking.

    it does feel that way though, we are going to need/hope them to start struggling to score occasionally
     
  14. shelfboy68

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    Only time will time of course but it's difficult to see beyond them right now.
     
  15. tommo84

    tommo84 Proud to be loud

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    I can't disagree regarding City's style of football. As a team they look like worthy champions of not just England, but Europe also (still early days though of course).

    I also can't speak for anyone else on this forum, but my own 'beef' with City this season is that after spending huge amounts of money (more than their rivals) in recent seasons and it not quite working, their solution this summer was just to spend even more, and on a bigger scale than previously attempted. I get that it has never been a level playing field and we ourselves have an advantage over about 85 teams in the English pyramid, but City's spending hasn't so much tipped the scales in their favour as it has turned the whole kitchen upside down.

    "Compare them with Everton, Liverpool, THFC after the Bale money'? There is no comparison. Their spending levels in the past 12 months have been unprecedented, such that I'd argue your point about their spending being 'wise' overlooks the fact that they paid well over market value for some of those players in order to make those deals happen - something only they and PSG appear able to do. Therefore I can marvel at City's on-field performances while still rolling my eyes when some pundits and City fans ignore the huge advantage they held over the rest of us before a ball was kicked.
     
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  16. Dillspur

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    I disagree regarding the spending. Everton, Liverpool and ourselves have all spent within our means, Liverpool pay a lot more in wages but their net spend is actually relatively low, and what did Everton actually spend above the lukaku cash 30-40m. City spent more than most on 2 fullbacks. City haven't recouped anything they've spent, they are being prompted up with the oil money.
     
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  17. talkshowhost86

    talkshowhost86 Mod-Moose Staff

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    Spent wisely?

    Their net spend in the last two seasons under Pep has been £300m. Ours has been about £30-35m

    That's fucking ridiculous and that's why I'm bitter towards City.

    Their financial doping is ridiculous, and whilst it may create a great team (and at the moment they are a great team) it ultimately makes a mockery of the sport.

    So they can fuck right off as far as I'm concerned.
     
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  18. ralvy

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    Barcelona did it a couple of times... Pep's Barcelona, that is.
     
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  19. walton

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    They spent wisely in the transfer window, that's undeniable. And that was my point. They didn't have the defence or GK to execute the style they wanted to play in 16/17 and have remedied that. Regardless of dolla, they've recruited wisely.

    Also, the net spend thing is a red herring in my opinion, but we'll save that for another day...
     
  20. walton

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    I meant 'wise' in terms of the identification and securing of targets. In previous seasons they've spent shitloads but on clearly unsuitable personnel. And that is a legitimate comparison with us, Liverpool and most certainly Everton when we've all splashed the cash.
     

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