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Race for the Top 4 - 2018/19

Where will we finish in the league ?


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spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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This is probably my dream scenario: We lose out on top four to Man U in third and Arsenal in fourth on the last match day (12/5). St Totteringhams Day is celebrated, we are mocked again. We then go on to win the CL and Chelsea somehow manages to win the EL. Arsenal get fourth but lose out on CL.

No way my heart could take that scenario whatsoever
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Depends on how severe it is, if they've both pulled it then it will be a few weeks minimum unfortunately.

Sissoko was only out for a week after doing his against Man U and it looked pretty similar to last nights one.
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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Can honestly see it. Fatigue means it'll be hard for both teams to reenergise and get up for it. City will not only be deflated but under massive pressure knowing that another slip up may mean no title.

As others have said if we can go there with good tactics and resolve we can make them sweat again.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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I think It's now time to make a decision on what is the priority, getting top four or winning the Champions League and to me it's becoming clearer so that I when I ask myself why do we want to get into the CL I answer surely it is to try to win it, now I know that is an unlikely scenario most of the time and the league should be our priority however the further we go the more the scales tip in the other direction.
As far as I'm concerned we have tipped the balance in favour of winning the Champions league over getting top four and if we don't then I'm fucked if I can see the point of getting into it next season anyway.
TO DARE IS TO DO.
COYS.
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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I think It's now time to make a decision on what is the priority, getting top four or winning the Champions League and to me it's becoming clearer so that I when I ask myself why do we want to get into the CL I answer surely it is to try to win it, now I know that is an unlikely scenario most of the time and the league should be our priority however the further we go the more the scales tip in the other direction.
As far as I'm concerned we have tipped the balance in favour of winning the Champions league over getting top four and if we don't then I'm fucked if I can see the point of getting into it next season anyway.
TO DARE IS TO DO.
COYS.
We can definitely do both. We've seen even our weakened teams beat Leicester, Watford and Newcastle at home. We only really need to do the same and beat Bournemouth away
 

Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
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I think It's now time to make a decision on what is the priority, getting top four or winning the Champions League and to me it's becoming clearer so that I when I ask myself why do we want to get into the CL I answer surely it is to try to win it, now I know that is an unlikely scenario most of the time and the league should be our priority however the further we go the more the scales tip in the other direction.
As far as I'm concerned we have tipped the balance in favour of winning the Champions league over getting top four and if we don't then I'm fucked if I can see the point of getting into it next season anyway.
TO DARE IS TO DO.
COYS.

It isn't a case of one or the other, we will try and do both.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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We can definitely do both. We've seen even our weakened teams beat Leicester, Watford and Newcastle at home. We only really need to do the same and beat Bournemouth away

It isn't a case of one or the other, we will try and do both.

I believe we can and will and I'm not saying we should mug off the league but we can't leave ourselves short for the Cl.
 

Mr Pink

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Aug 25, 2010
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I think It's now time to make a decision on what is the priority, getting top four or winning the Champions League and to me it's becoming clearer so that I when I ask myself why do we want to get into the CL I answer surely it is to try to win it, now I know that is an unlikely scenario most of the time and the league should be our priority however the further we go the more the scales tip in the other direction.
As far as I'm concerned we have tipped the balance in favour of winning the Champions league over getting top four and if we don't then I'm fucked if I can see the point of getting into it next season anyway.
TO DARE IS TO DO.
COYS.

We'll be doing our best for both. I just don't believe it's an and/or situation.

Poch will manage the squad cleverly. If it comes down to making a few key decisions, I'm sure he'd lean in the way of CL but we're completely capable of finishing top four and making the final.
 

scat1620

L'espion mal fait
May 11, 2008
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Of course we'll be trying our hardest for both a top 4 finish and making the CL final, that's so obvious that it doesn't even need mentioning. But I think the point that @worcestersauce is making - which I am totally on board with - is that if we do have any moments in the remainder of the season where by necessity an either/or choice has to be made when managing our squad in some aspect, then IMO that choice must be made with the CL Semis as the top priority and with the actions for the league fixtures adjusted accordingly to accommodate that priority.

We want both, and maybe we can have both, but if we do come up against any bottlenecks in the resources of our squad that force us to make a tough choice then that choice must (IMO) be made to give us the best chance of victory in the CL semis at the expense of the opportunity cost in the league fixtures.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Jun 8, 2012
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Of course we'll be trying our hardest for both a top 4 finish and making the CL final, that's so obvious that it doesn't even need mentioning. But I think the point that @worcestersauce is making - which I am totally on board with - is that if we do have any moments in the remainder of the season where by necessity an either/or choice has to be made when managing our squad in some aspect, then IMO that choice must be made with the CL Semis as the top priority and with the actions for the league fixtures adjusted accordingly to accommodate that priority.

We want both, and maybe we can have both, but if we do come up against any bottlenecks in the resources of our squad that force us to make a tough choice then that choice must (IMO) be made to give us the best chance of victory in the CL semis at the expense of the opportunity cost in the league fixtures.


I think that we understood what @worcestersauce was getting at, mate. It's just that, under Poch, there really is never such a decision to be made.

He's said it himself. We set out to win games, one match at a time. I don't see that changing & no matter what result we get in our next match, he'll be trying to win the one that follows it.
 

ardiles

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Nov 24, 2006
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The game on Saturday is the least important of all our remaining games (all comps) this season. Even if we put out our strongest available team, we’d likely lose to city. A loss would not jeopardise our quest for a top four place if we get at least 9 points from our other four PL games - which we are very capable of and likely to achieve.

With our depleted squad, I’d use this opportunity to play some of our fringe / youth players and give a much needed rest to some of our important (but still available) players.
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
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With our depleted squad, I’d use this opportunity to play some of our fringe / youth players and give a much needed rest to some of our important (but still available) players.
I was thinking the same, fuck it off.
Added bonus is it would piss Liverpool off no end.

Its just not Poch's way though so I can't see it happening.
 

Mr Pink

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Aug 25, 2010
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I was thinking the same, fuck it off.
Added bonus is it would piss Liverpool off no end.

Its just not Poch's way though so I can't see it happening.

It's not his way, but rotation with a close run of games is very much his way.

I think we'll see quite a few changes to freshen things up, but not complete wholesale changes... Which we can't really do anyway, unless we include a lot of the kids.
 

E17yid

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Jan 21, 2013
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This is the time now where we just tell the players you’re not allowed to get injured anymore and the ones who are injured have to man up and get uninjured.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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By the same token if Poch sees that a player is not up to it and shouldn't be played then he won't play him even if he is not replaceable, Eriksen and Son for example.
Quite honestly I find it mind boggling that anyone could possibly even think of equating fourth place in the league with winning the Champions league, of course we will try to do our best in both but we are talking about winning the Champions league here and we are within touching distance of doing just that. We are in a completely different ball game now and we need to aim high so high that even if.we fail there is in that failure true glory. Beat Ajax and we are where we have never been before, you want a statement there it is.
 
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Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
41,363
74,893
Of course we'll be trying our hardest for both a top 4 finish and making the CL final, that's so obvious that it doesn't even need mentioning. But I think the point that @worcestersauce is making - which I am totally on board with - is that if we do have any moments in the remainder of the season where by necessity an either/or choice has to be made when managing our squad in some aspect, then IMO that choice must be made with the CL Semis as the top priority and with the actions for the league fixtures adjusted accordingly to accommodate that priority.

We want both, and maybe we can have both, but if we do come up against any bottlenecks in the resources of our squad that force us to make a tough choice then that choice must (IMO) be made to give us the best chance of victory in the CL semis at the expense of the opportunity cost in the league fixtures.

Understand where he was going, just don't agree with the premise. We go 100% to win each game. Best team available. Fuck rest.
 

Bulletspur

The Reasonable Advocate
Match Thread Admin
Oct 17, 2006
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I agree with this. Getting to the semis of the Champions League and hopefully the final has brought excitement to the club. I may be in the minority but that to me is what it’s all about. The glory nights. Even if we finish 5th and don’t win the CL to me it’s a better season than not getting to the final stages and finishing 4th. Especially with all the injuries etc.
I don’t buy into the view that it will be a disaster with the new stadium investment if we are playing in the EL . Players will still sign for us if Levy loosens the purse strings . It might make a slight difference to Eriksen and Alderweireld but in both cases it seems like money is the main issue. We were in CL this season and signed nobody.
Hopefully we will get top 4 but that doesn’t define our success or failure this season.
I disagree. The only way I would be okay on missing top 4 is if we went on to win the CL. I am sure that "our project" relies on us being in the CL both for future financial gain and new player attraction. New Stadium, a vibrant Fanbase and Top 4 i.e. Champions League football are all part of the formula. Take any of these elements out and we will regress instead of being the force that we have become in the English Premier League.
 
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