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adwanhussein

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MAY be Ghaly needed some encouragment from Spurs fans ,who it seems never took a liking to him.I think he was improving greatly at Spurs as the season progressed and he was playing a more pivotal role in games.In terms of asissts and goals and penalties realised it totaled ten.And he could have been assissts leader if there was sometimes better finishing ,espically from his compatriot Mido.WE seem to forget that he is a fixture in Egypt's African champion Egypt and has scored great goals for them.He is only human and can commit mistakes .but he must have had great loyalty to Spurs to have his teeth knocked out and come back to play ,i've seen players in Man U or other teams having oxygen tents administred on the pitch and removed to hospitals for lesser injuries.
 

rabs

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your right about those photos. looks like they were all taken on the same day other than taarabt from last year, so he's clearly setup a quick photo shoot and got them back on the training pitch. well done Harry. even if they dont make the team, they get valuable fitness training which makes it easier to sell them, and kpb and ghaly might bring a bit of toughness into training tackles which clearly we've been lacking! Have been scared of tough tackling opposition as it looks!
 

JimmyG2

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Can we not be so quick to discard players,not just Ramos but us as well.Especially young ones and foreign players. At least Harry knows how to put his arm round players,physically and verbally.
Look at his handling of Modric,another one written off by many fans,praised and played in his most effective position and by most observers the man of the match.
If you could re-read some of the comments on Ghaly after he threw down his shirt I would like to think that some people would be embarrassed.
Taarabt and Ghaly might be the next to benefit from Harry's wisdom.
I get the feeling that we are jumping to conclusions too soon about the 'Rednapp' effect but his positives are just what we need at the moment.
I like particularly the reference to the 'Tottenham way' in his early comments.I think we can save money on the PR dept.Harry does his own.
 

SpursMadJames

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Boateng and Rocha r the only 2 decent ones...rest arent good enough to cut the mustard, they wont add anything we haven't already got...i.e Hutton, Modric, Huddlestone/Zokora
 

WhiteHeartLowe

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My only lastimg memory of watching "the Prince", apart from the nansty tatoos, was the number of clumsy tackles he made and subsequent free kicks he conceeded, usually in dangerous areas. I wont mind one bit if he doesnt return!
 

S17PUR

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MAY be Ghaly needed some encouragment from Spurs fans ,who it seems never took a liking to him.I think he was improving greatly at Spurs as the season progressed and he was playing a more pivotal role in games.In terms of asissts and goals and penalties realised it totaled ten.And he could have been assissts leader if there was sometimes better finishing ,espically from his compatriot Mido.WE seem to forget that he is a fixture in Egypt's African champion Egypt and has scored great goals for them.He is only human and can commit mistakes .but he must have had great loyalty to Spurs to have his teeth knocked out and come back to play ,i've seen players in Man U or other teams having oxygen tents administred on the pitch and removed to hospitals for lesser injuries.

I don't think it was a case of liking or disliking Ghaly (at least up until the shirt throwing incident), it was simply the case that he wasn't good enough. A lot of people have highlighted him as an answer to our problems in recent weeks, but to me this is just desperation. Yes he was passionate but I don't think that you can claim he has loyalty to Spurs because he played on after having teeth knocked out - that is probably more to do with his personality and mentality. In my mind his passing was poor and terribly inconsistent - he was regularly over ambitious both with his passing and his attempted use of skills and tricks. Personally I think he found his level with Derby.
 

S17PUR

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Also just seen us linked with Belhadj, who is only on loan at Pompey - looks like a decent left-sided player to me, and possibly worth a punt.
 

sak11

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in a way this will be like new signings to oadd a few more options for harry.. also it will be good to get some more teambuilding going and will cancel out the divisive nature of how ramos handled this situation...

i dont think ghaly was as bad as others do, esp given that most of the time he was played out on the right of midfield when he obviously preferred being played n the middle..
 

blobster

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I was watching highlights of the last Canada game against Mexico and Stalteri actually had a cracker. I still think he has something to offer even if only as back-up so I'm glad to see him back in the squad..
 

SpurSince57

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I don't think it was a case of liking or disliking Ghaly (at least up until the shirt throwing incident), it was simply the case that he wasn't good enough. A lot of people have highlighted him as an answer to our problems in recent weeks, but to me this is just desperation. Yes he was passionate but I don't think that you can claim he has loyalty to Spurs because he played on after having teeth knocked out - that is probably more to do with his personality and mentality. In my mind his passing was poor and terribly inconsistent - he was regularly over ambitious both with his passing and his attempted use of skills and tricks. Personally I think he found his level with Derby.

Another in our long line of hugely frustrating players—as you say, far too prone to going for the Hollywood pass rather than the simple option, and too apt to over-complicate things in general. He also tended to lack positional discipline—on the right he'd often drift infield and leave the RB exposed (although to be fair, he was no worse than Steed in that respect). However, he also put in some peachy crosses (particularly the one for Hudd against City) and certainly wasn't afraid to get stuck in—I've got very fond memories of his clattering Lampard and Ballack within about twenty seconds of one another. He was also one of the few who'd look to play a forward pass instead of the sideways-sideways-sideways-sideways-and back to Robbo to lump upfield. Before his moment of madness he'd done enough to secure a place as a squad player, and now Berbatov's shown what real disrespect is I think all but the hardcore boo-boys would be prepared to give him a chance to redeem himself if 'arry decides he's worth a whirl.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Another in our long line of hugely frustrating players—as you say, far too prone to going for the Hollywood pass rather than the simple option, and too apt to over-complicate things in general. He also tended to lack positional discipline—on the right he'd often drift infield and leave the RB exposed (although to be fair, he was no worse than Steed in that respect). However, he also put in some peachy crosses (particularly the one for Hudd against City) and certainly wasn't afraid to get stuck in—I've got very fond memories of his clattering Lampard and Ballack within about twenty seconds of one another. He was also one of the few who'd look to play a forward pass instead of the sideways-sideways-sideways-sideways-and back to Robbo to lump upfield. Before his moment of madness he'd done enough to secure a place as a squad player, and now Berbatov's shown what real disrespect is I think all but the hardcore boo-boys would be prepared to give him a chance to redeem himself if 'arry decides he's worth a whirl.

very well said.

i must say, at the time i crucified the guy, and thoroughly booed him after he threw the shirt, and i don't ever boo, but with hindsight (and a couple of years older) I get that it was an isolated incident. Also, with our best midfield right now looking like Bentley and Lennon out wide, Jenas and Hudd in the middle and Modric supporting the striker, he'd be perfect for the occasions that Jenas is injured as he is the most similar player we have to JJ in terms of role, even if his style is different. Zokora for JJ just messes up the system for himself, Modric and Huddlestone.
 
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