Ratings v Asteras Tripolis

Discussion in 'Match Ratings Archive' started by Strikeb4ck, Oct 23, 2014.

MOTM?

Poll closed Nov 2, 2014.
  1. Lloris

    1.3%
  2. Dier

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Fazio

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Verts

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Davies

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Capoue

    1.7%
  7. Dembele

    1.3%
  8. Kane

    57.0%
  9. Lamela

    37.0%
  10. Townsend

    0.9%
  11. Adebayor

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Chadli

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Eriksen

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  14. Lennon

    0.9%
  1. LexingtonSpurs

    LexingtonSpurs Well-Known Member

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    And, lets not kid ourselves, if Townsend had gotten a foot on that shot it would have ended up in row Z, instead of the back of the net.
     
  2. LexingtonSpurs

    LexingtonSpurs Well-Known Member

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    Don't want to speak for them - but generally when we win 5-1, there are not quite as many "poor" performances as you listed. You listed 5 players as having played "poor" - seems like an odd choice of words there - certainly there were moments when we could have played better, but on the whole, this players all played well enough to help the team to a 5-1 victory.
     
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  3. SteveH

    SteveH BSoDL candidate for SW London

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    Lloris - 8 Lost 0.5 for rushing out at 5-0
    Dier - 6
    Fazio - 7 - Very encouraging
    Vertonghen - 6
    Davies - 6
    Capoue - 4 did not defend well enough (see below)
    Dembele - 4 left midfield empty (see above)
    Townsend - 3.9 looked rusty
    Kane - 9 - Great game
    Lamela - 7.5 - Best game so far - need to just shoot more. trust The Force Erik
    Adebayor - 6.5 worked his nuts off
     
  4. CrazyHeart

    CrazyHeart Well-Known Member

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    Are you sure Adebayor assisted the Lamela goal? Looked like a poor clearance by an Asteras defender.
     
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  5. Bulletspur

    Bulletspur The Reasonable Advocate

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    You are correct, Ade had nothing to do with that goal
     
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  6. Strikeb4ck

    Strikeb4ck Well-Known Member

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    Haha oops. Fixed.
     
  7. cozzo

    cozzo Well-Known Member

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    So the defender was always going to pass it to Lamela?
     
  8. CrazyHeart

    CrazyHeart Well-Known Member

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    I'm stating that Lamela's goal was not the culmination of an Adebayor assist, which it clearly wasn't. Now, I will give Ade kudos for pressuring defenders and pushing forward, but to credit him with an assist when it was not his intention is unreasonable.
     
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  9. Mattspur

    Mattspur Do Mattspur

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    Fair enough, but having had time to reflect on the performance (not the result) I'm happy enough with the ratings I gave out. We played a poor team and it was one of those days where pretty much everything we hit went in. They had some great chances and cut our defence open far more than they should have. We had 3 good performers that won us the game in Lloris, Lamela and Kane. If we defended like that in the PL we would have got hammered and judging by MP's comments after the match it would seem he agrees with me, or rather, I agree with him.
     
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  10. Bulletspur

    Bulletspur The Reasonable Advocate

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    My opinion is that Ade was trying to get the ball in order to shoot himself, never was going to pass to Lamela. I could be wrong though
     
  11. Bobbins

    Bobbins SC's 14th Sexiest Male 2008

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    Lamela - 7

    That's pretty much a major WTF moment mate.
     
  12. davidmatzdorf

    davidmatzdorf Front Page Gadfly

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    Watching it again, the ball toward Lamela did indeed come off a defender, but to say that it had 'nothing to do' with the teammate who had hung onto the ball, under pressure from 2-3 opponents, for a few seconds before it flew out of the scrum is just anti-Adebayor bigotry.

    Had Adebayor not been there, working the ball and fighting for possession, Lamela never would have got that chance.

    Plainly, I had a disadvantage, having actually seen the game live and only once.
     
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  13. CrazyHeart

    CrazyHeart Well-Known Member

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    I don't think you're wrong on this.
     
  14. Mattspur

    Mattspur Do Mattspur

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    The goal was incredible and the second wasn't to shabby either but my rating was for the whole time he was on the pitch not just his moment of magic, which was a 10 out of 10 moment, but for me, overall he played well, I don't see whats wrong with that. He certainly didn't have a bad game but at the same time it was far from a faultless performance. I'm a big fan of Lamela and my mark wasn't intended to put him down. I suppose I've grown out of just thinking someone was spectacular because they scored an incredible goal (or two). In my ranking system 7 is a good mark. I see there's a few posters who've given him a 7.5 so I'm not that far off the mark.
     
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  15. dynamoSpurs

    dynamoSpurs Well-Known Member

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    Tbh he didn't have that much time to weigh up his options. Pass came short and he just did it. So not sure I see the logic. Still don't rate Lamela though.
     
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  16. spurs9

    spurs9 Well-Known Member

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    You should watch the goal again because Ade didn't hang onto the ball he took a touch, was tackled, tried to win it back, got a loose touch, then the defender touched it onto Lamela.
     
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