Ratings vs Arsenal

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  1. Lloris

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  2. Rose

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  3. Verts

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  4. Kaboul

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  5. Naughton

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  6. Capoue

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  7. Mason

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  8. Lamela

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  10. Chadli

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  11. Adebayor

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  12. Lennon

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  13. Bentaleb

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  1. jonathanhotspur

    jonathanhotspur Loose Cannon

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    Hmmmm.

    http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKCN0HM0P020140927?irpc=932

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    Pochettino happier than Wenger after derby draw
    Sat, Sep 27 22:41 PM BST
    By Mike Collett

    LONDON (Reuters) - Mauricio Pochettino said this week he would like to stay at Tottenham Hotspur for as long as Arsene Wenger has been at Arsenal and performances like the one Spurs produced in the 1-1 draw at the Emirates on Saturday can only help his cause.

    Tottenham, who so often come to the Emirates and leave with their cockerel feathers in tatters, showed true battling spirit and made the short journey home with a well-deserved point from a typically entertaining north London derby.

    Wenger celebrates 18 years as Arsenal's boss on Wednesday while Pochettino has been Spurs manager for only three months.

    This was Wenger's 44th derby against Spurs -- and he has only lost six -- and Pochettino's first.

    While the young Argentine coach admitted that Spurs are still developing their style under his philosophy, which produced some excellent results at Southampton last season, he was hugely encouraged by the way they played.

    "Today we showed that we could compete with a big team like Arsenal and this is a good point for us," said Pochettino. "I am happy.

    "Younes Kaboul played like a real captain today and we really competed. Perhaps we still need to improve our style, but we have time.

    "Arsene Wenger has been in charge here for 18 years and I have been here three months, and we can improve. But I loved this first derby. It was great.

    "Amazing stadium, great atmosphere. Maybe we could have held on to win the game, but in the end I think a draw was a fair result."



    IMPROVED PERFORMANCE

    Tottenham, who have only won one match at Arsenal since 1993, gave a vastly improved performance following their lacklustre display when they were beaten 1-0 at home by West Bromwich Albion last week.

    Although Arsenal, who remain unbeaten in the league with two wins and four draws, dominated possession, Spurs defended superbly and counter-attacked with real threat when they did break, although they only had six shots.

    Their opening goal after 56 minutes from Nacer Chadli came after they pressurised Arsenal into making a mistake in their own half, and the only time they faltered in defence was when Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain smashed home Arsenal's equaliser with 17 minutes remaining.

    Wenger, who rarely has a good word to say for his neighbours, found fault with them for time-wasting, but also applauded their defensive work.

    "I can't remember having so much possession against a Tottenham team since I was here, but they defended well. To give them credit I think Younes Kaboul and Jan Vertonghen and Hugo Lloris all played well."

    Arsenal may have had plenty of the ball, and put Tottenham under pressure, but they rarely created real scoring chances of their own.

    Calum Chambers fired over the bar and Per Mertesacker forced a good save from Lloris with a powerful header which the Goal Decision System showed did not cross the line.

    For once, though, Tottenham were not out-played and outmanoeuvred by their old adversaries.

    As Pochettino said: "Our strategy was to be compact and play deep. If you give us Arsenal space to play they will. It worked today and we know the way to go."
     
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  2. Spurs_Bear

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    Ouch...
     
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  3. JUSTINSIGNAL

    JUSTINSIGNAL Well-Known Member

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    Interesting. To be honest I think he chose the right strategy, especially after our recent thumpings against bigger teams. If we tried to play them at their own game we almost certainly would have been picked off as we don't look after possession well enough.

    It wasn't pretty to watch but it was good to see Poch has the adaptability to switch tactics and be more pragmatic to grind out results.
     
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  4. Spurs_Bear

    Spurs_Bear Well-Known Member

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    @jonathanhotspur

    I hadn't even read that article before posting my tuppence worth, if you think BC is fucking outstanding I must be edging into fucking bastard well outstanding?

    Shirley?
     
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  5. Spurs_Bear

    Spurs_Bear Well-Known Member

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    @Bus-Conductor

    Are you currently searching in your wardrobe for that pair of orthopedic shoes...?
     
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  6. stevenqoz

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    Regardless of whether the team was told 'to let them have it in the opponents half' or 'press up high' we were relatively unsucessful either way. When you instruct your side to make it compact you would expect the team to combine, reduce the gaps and make it difficult to come through the middle. Unfortunately I didn't see much combination pressure as we sat deep. We were fortunate that most of Arsenals 'final balls' came ended up coming from out wide and this allowed Kaboul and to a lesser extent Vert to do what centre backs ought to do best, head / volley the ball away. Arsenals lack of a traditional big striker suggests that tactically Wenger erred playing to one of our relative strengths.....the fact that a Wellbeck airswing from a cross seems to prove this. Glad to get the point but realistic enough to see how ugly and fortunate we were.
     
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  7. jonathanhotspur

    jonathanhotspur Loose Cannon

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    I am standing by my earlier comment, Spurs_Bear.
     
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  8. Blake Griffin

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    sorry i ever doubted you poch.
     
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  9. mpickard2087

    mpickard2087 Fantastic Member

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    So Arsenal having to go wide was not because we sat very deep, plus Capoue and Mason were often right in front of the defence offering a congested way through the middle?

    I'd say we had an effect. Teams like Utd have for years played this way against Arsenal. Invite them to go wide, as they cant do anything with it. Presently with them missing Giroud it wasn't a bad tactic to adopt.
     
  10. mpickard2087

    mpickard2087 Fantastic Member

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    I only want to see us play this way in the big games. Wouldn't want to see it regularly away from home even. There's an awful lot of cannon fodder in this league that I think we should be battering into submission.
     
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  11. Spurs_Bear

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    Yeah and agree, but it's a good tool to have in the box.
     
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  12. sloth

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    I think that article is pretty conclusive, the plan was to be compact, play deep and hit them on the break, and that's what we did.

    Still annoyed with the work-rate/mentality of some of the front four and I think you can restrict options from the front even if you are playing deep, but that's another story.
     
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  13. SteveH

    SteveH BSoDL candidate for SW London

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    Watched the game again yesterday, yeah sad I know.

    I was of course pleased to come away with something from the game and on the day could see some positives.
    One of the few positives that remained on my second viewing was the character and fight of the team.

    Sadley I think the days are gone for a while away when we will see a Spurs team playing free flowing attack football at the bigger clubs. This is quite understandable when we look at some of the shocking results last season.

    I am intrigued to see how Pochettino will mould this group into hopefully a force in the EPL.
     
  14. mpickard2087

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    To me it looked suspiciously like Poch and Co. had gone through the gameplan with the two banks of four and how he wanted them to play compact and get in behind the ball, but it was as if the two 'strikers' (including Chadli in this) hadn't been instructed on this. They were looking to press at times when the others were sitting, they should have been looking to get in behind the ball and be the first brick wall to go through. Far too often were wrong side of the ball.
     
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  15. Bus-Conductor

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    A simple "yes" would have sufficed, I really didn't need all the other hackneyed bollocks about possession and journalists conspiracies.
     
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  18. Bus-Conductor

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    Air bullshit calling Mr Bear, mrP and mr motd BG for their flight to reality.
     
  19. SteveH

    SteveH BSoDL candidate for SW London

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    I think it will have to be baby steps this season as the squad are undergoing a seed change. Rome wasn't built in a day......
     
  20. Bus-Conductor

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    The General plan is not being disputed. How well we performed within it is what smd of us are disputing.

    We weren't compact. They walked through our first line like it wasn't there.
     
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