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  • Lloris

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Aurier

    Votes: 42 21.8%
  • Dier

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Verts

    Votes: 8 4.1%
  • Rose

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Sissoko

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Winks

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Lamela

    Votes: 54 28.0%
  • Eriksen

    Votes: 9 4.7%
  • Son

    Votes: 45 23.3%
  • Kane

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Dembele

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Dele

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Davies

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Poch

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 15 7.8%

  • Total voters
    193

jonnyp

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Jun 11, 2006
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I actually agree with your point but Arsenal & Liverpool as examples of how to play against bus parkers? After last night?

Well I didn't watch the other of last night's games. But the matches I've seen them against bus parkers this season, they seem a lot better at creating chances and usually it's quick combinations and one-two's out wide. Of course, creating more chancces doesn't necessarily equate to a win, but it sure helps!
 

Japhet

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Aug 30, 2010
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Nobody outstanding so Lamela gets my vote. So happy to have him back.
 

Bus-Conductor

SC Supporter
Oct 19, 2004
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exasperate
ɪɡˈzasp(ə)reɪt,ɛɡˈzasp(ə)reɪt/
verb
past tense: exasperated; past participle: exasperated

  1. irritate intensely; infuriate.
    "this futile process exasperates prison officers"


    synonyms:infuriate, incense, anger, annoy, irritate, madden, enrage, send into a rage, inflame, antagonize, provoke, irk, vex, gall, pique, try someone's patience, get on someone's nerves, make someone's blood boil, make someone's hackles rise, make someone see red, get someone's back up, rub up the wrong way, ruffle someone's feathers, drive to distraction; More

A better word might have been exacerbated, but exasperated still works.
 

Spurrific

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Jun 2, 2011
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exasperate
ɪɡˈzasp(ə)reɪt,ɛɡˈzasp(ə)reɪt/
verb
past tense: exasperated; past participle: exasperated

  1. irritate intensely; infuriate.
    "this futile process exasperates prison officers"


    synonyms:infuriate, incense, anger, annoy, irritate, madden, enrage, send into a rage, inflame, antagonize, provoke, irk, vex, gall, pique, try someone's patience, get on someone's nerves, make someone's blood boil, make someone's hackles rise, make someone see red, get someone's back up, rub up the wrong way, ruffle someone's feathers, drive to distraction; More

A better word might have been exacerbated, but exasperated still works.

Sorry, fella - but no. You mean exacerbated. Not that it matters, of course.
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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Dec 13, 2013
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Just because he wasn’t the worst player on the pitch it doesn’t mean people have an agenda when they criticise him. Maybe they just see the same thing from him week in week out and they don’t think he offers enough for a top 6 side, so they point that out in here. It is a ratings thread and if people don’t think he had a good game they’ll rate him accordingly. I don’t know why some of you can’t accept this and keep putting it down to an ‘agenda’. I posted one of only 2 negative posts I’ve ever made about Sissoko on here and I’ve got an agenda? Ok.

I really dislike him as a player but his saving grace for me is that he pretty much always gives 100% so in my books anyone who does that doesn’t deserve any disrespect from the crowd at the games. But we have a right to criticise his performance amongst other Spurs fans online if we don’t think it’s good enough and, along with most of the team last night, it wasn’t.

He’s a very obviously limited player. I don’t understand why some think he’s good enough for the team when he continues to prove otherwise. Some may blame Poch for playing him, it’s not like Sissoko will say ‘I’m not good enough boss, don’t play me’. But all I see from the Sissoko fans on the ratings threads over the past few weeks is ‘he wasn’t our worst player’ etc. If that’s the most positive thing you can say about someone then it’s not the best praise in the world is it?

If someone disagrees with this, it would be nice if they would explain why rather than just clicking on ‘disagree’ because it seems a lot of you just click on disagree whenever there’s a negative post about Sissoko without explaining why. I’m genuinely interested to hear the counter arguments. So if you click disagree and don’t explain why, I’ll assume you can’t think of any sensible response.

;)

There's some sensitive princesses at times. Who cares if someone does have an agenda anyway? If they're not involved in team selection how does it matter?

I dared point out a few of Auriers errors last week, despite saying he had ability too. Apparently that means I have 'beef' or agenda with him. Bonkers.

Anyway. Sissoko made a fantastic contribution in the box yesterday. The perfect dummy, it was so good it actually looked like he tried to shoot at goal. Bloody forwards didn't see his ruse and fluffed the chance....
 
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Everlasting Seconds

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Jan 9, 2014
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Just because he wasn’t the worst player on the pitch it doesn’t mean people have an agenda when they criticise him. Maybe they just see the same thing from him week in week out and they don’t think he offers enough for a top 6 side, so they point that out in here. It is a ratings thread and if people don’t think he had a good game they’ll rate him accordingly. I don’t know why some of you can’t accept this and keep putting it down to an ‘agenda’. I posted one of only 2 negative posts I’ve ever made about Sissoko on here and I’ve got an agenda? Ok.

I really dislike him as a player but his saving grace for me is that he pretty much always gives 100% so in my books anyone who does that doesn’t deserve any disrespect from the crowd at the games. But we have a right to criticise his performance amongst other Spurs fans online if we don’t think it’s good enough and, along with most of the team last night, it wasn’t.

He’s a very obviously limited player. I don’t understand why some think he’s good enough for the team when he continues to prove otherwise. Some may blame Poch for playing him, it’s not like Sissoko will say ‘I’m not good enough boss, don’t play me’. But all I see from the Sissoko fans on the ratings threads over the past few weeks is ‘he wasn’t our worst player’ etc. If that’s the most positive thing you can say about someone then it’s not the best praise in the world is it?

If someone disagrees with this, it would be nice if they would explain why rather than just clicking on ‘disagree’ because it seems a lot of you just click on disagree whenever there’s a negative post about Sissoko without explaining why. I’m genuinely interested to hear the counter arguments. So if you click disagree and don’t explain why, I’ll assume you can’t think of any sensible response.

;)
He isn't the worse simply because he doesn't make a whole lot of mistakes. He isn't making mistakes because he isn't attempting a whole lot. He isn't attempting a whole lot because he doesn't have the ability, and he has been told so in order to reduce his number of mistakes
 
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onthetwo

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May 19, 2006
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Just because he wasn’t the worst player on the pitch it doesn’t mean people have an agenda when they criticise him. Maybe they just see the same thing from him week in week out and they don’t think he offers enough for a top 6 side, so they point that out in here. It is a ratings thread and if people don’t think he had a good game they’ll rate him accordingly. I don’t know why some of you can’t accept this and keep putting it down to an ‘agenda’. I posted one of only 2 negative posts I’ve ever made about Sissoko on here and I’ve got an agenda? Ok.

I really dislike him as a player but his saving grace for me is that he pretty much always gives 100% so in my books anyone who does that doesn’t deserve any disrespect from the crowd at the games. But we have a right to criticise his performance amongst other Spurs fans online if we don’t think it’s good enough and, along with most of the team last night, it wasn’t.

He’s a very obviously limited player. I don’t understand why some think he’s good enough for the team when he continues to prove otherwise. Some may blame Poch for playing him, it’s not like Sissoko will say ‘I’m not good enough boss, don’t play me’. But all I see from the Sissoko fans on the ratings threads over the past few weeks is ‘he wasn’t our worst player’ etc. If that’s the most positive thing you can say about someone then it’s not the best praise in the world is it?

If someone disagrees with this, it would be nice if they would explain why rather than just clicking on ‘disagree’ because it seems a lot of you just click on disagree whenever there’s a negative post about Sissoko without explaining why. I’m genuinely interested to hear the counter arguments. So if you click disagree and don’t explain why, I’ll assume you can’t think of any sensible response.

;)
i totally agree (for what its worth) and the fact that Poch keeps picking him is the only flaw that i can see in his approach. I keep hoping to be proven wrong and will support him and every other player chosen but sheesh....give me something!
Im left hoping that he gets a run out for France in the summer in a one-paced international match leading someone else to conclude that they have to have him.
 

Bus-Conductor

SC Supporter
Oct 19, 2004
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i totally agree (for what its worth) and the fact that Poch keeps picking him is the only flaw that i can see in his approach. I keep hoping to be proven wrong and will support him and every other player chosen but sheesh....give me something!
Im left hoping that he gets a run out for France in the summer in a one-paced international match leading someone else to conclude that they have to have him.

Playing Sissoko - instead of a plethora of better and varied options - in last year’s Euros was a major contributor to France performing badly in both the semi final and final. If Sissoko even makes a France squad with the players Deschamps has to call on right now, then he should be sacked immediately.
 

The Apprentice

Charles Big Potatoes
Mar 10, 2005
11,143
15,618
Just because he wasn’t the worst player on the pitch it doesn’t mean people have an agenda when they criticise him. Maybe they just see the same thing from him week in week out and they don’t think he offers enough for a top 6 side, so they point that out in here. It is a ratings thread and if people don’t think he had a good game they’ll rate him accordingly. I don’t know why some of you can’t accept this and keep putting it down to an ‘agenda’. I posted one of only 2 negative posts I’ve ever made about Sissoko on here and I’ve got an agenda? Ok.

I really dislike him as a player but his saving grace for me is that he pretty much always gives 100% so in my books anyone who does that doesn’t deserve any disrespect from the crowd at the games. But we have a right to criticise his performance amongst other Spurs fans online if we don’t think it’s good enough and, along with most of the team last night, it wasn’t.

He’s a very obviously limited player. I don’t understand why some think he’s good enough for the team when he continues to prove otherwise. Some may blame Poch for playing him, it’s not like Sissoko will say ‘I’m not good enough boss, don’t play me’. But all I see from the Sissoko fans on the ratings threads over the past few weeks is ‘he wasn’t our worst player’ etc. If that’s the most positive thing you can say about someone then it’s not the best praise in the world is it?

If someone disagrees with this, it would be nice if they would explain why rather than just clicking on ‘disagree’ because it seems a lot of you just click on disagree whenever there’s a negative post about Sissoko without explaining why. I’m genuinely interested to hear the counter arguments. So if you click disagree and don’t explain why, I’ll assume you can’t think of any sensible response.

;)

There is no counter argument. He is absolute guff and drags down the people he plays with.
 

dynamoSpurs

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Aug 29, 2006
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It’s not an agenda. Why would anyone have an agenda? I’d love for him to be excel or even be an asset to the club. But sadly, he’s just not up to it and I’d rather he was just moved on because he’s far more of a liability than an asset.
Tbh he wasn't nor has he been the worst player on the pitch for the last few games, so I think it's a bit unfair to chastise him.

Alas, he's an easy scapegoat because we've seem some absolutely shocking performancels from him, especially last season.

But THIS season; this season he's performed better than some.
 

punkisback

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Apr 10, 2004
4,410
7,278
Just because he wasn’t the worst player on the pitch it doesn’t mean people have an agenda when they criticise him. Maybe they just see the same thing from him week in week out and they don’t think he offers enough for a top 6 side, so they point that out in here. It is a ratings thread and if people don’t think he had a good game they’ll rate him accordingly. I don’t know why some of you can’t accept this and keep putting it down to an ‘agenda’. I posted one of only 2 negative posts I’ve ever made about Sissoko on here and I’ve got an agenda? Ok.

I really dislike him as a player but his saving grace for me is that he pretty much always gives 100% so in my books anyone who does that doesn’t deserve any disrespect from the crowd at the games. But we have a right to criticise his performance amongst other Spurs fans online if we don’t think it’s good enough and, along with most of the team last night, it wasn’t.

He’s a very obviously limited player. I don’t understand why some think he’s good enough for the team when he continues to prove otherwise. Some may blame Poch for playing him, it’s not like Sissoko will say ‘I’m not good enough boss, don’t play me’. But all I see from the Sissoko fans on the ratings threads over the past few weeks is ‘he wasn’t our worst player’ etc. If that’s the most positive thing you can say about someone then it’s not the best praise in the world is it?

If someone disagrees with this, it would be nice if they would explain why rather than just clicking on ‘disagree’ because it seems a lot of you just click on disagree whenever there’s a negative post about Sissoko without explaining why. I’m genuinely interested to hear the counter arguments. So if you click disagree and don’t explain why, I’ll assume you can’t think of any sensible response.

;)
I don't think he's been giving 100% at all. His work rate has improved but last year he had quite bad work rate and this has improved but he's nowhere near as industrious as other players.
 

bomberH

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Jun 4, 2005
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I don't think he's been giving 100% at all. His work rate has improved but last year he had quite bad work rate and this has improved but he's nowhere near as industrious as other players.

Fair enough but personally I think he’s putting in the effort - he’s just so limited a player that, most of the time, nothing much happens as a result of his effort. Last year he didn’t have a proper pre-season and coupled with his lack of ability/awareness and maybe being played in a position he wasn’t overly comfortable with, he just looked like a fish out of water. This season, there’s been obvious improvements in all departments but it’s still nowhere near good enough for a team challenging. For me, his flaws outweigh his positives by quite a lot.

I’ve seen effort (IMO) a bit of power, a bit of pace and he seems like a nice guy off the pitch. That’s as complimentary as I can be about him so far in a Spurs shirt.
 

Coyboy

The Double of 1961 is still The Double
Dec 3, 2004
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Tbh he wasn't nor has he been the worst player on the pitch for the last few games, so I think it's a bit unfair to chastise him.

Alas, he's an easy scapegoat because we've seem some absolutely shocking performancels from him, especially last season.

But THIS season; this season he's performed better than some.

I don't think he has. The bar is very low from last season but it is still not good enough. I would probably say that only Alli has been in the same ball park in terms of being below bar; but he has still contributed the odd goal and assist and even on his worst days is generally better than Sissoko.

I don't necessarily 'blame' Sissoko. I just don't think he is a very good footballer and I am genuinely at a loss to figure out why Poch persists with him but of course defer to his better judgment. I am happy with almost all other facets of our team/club, I just think this guy is not good enough and never will be. I'd love to be proven wrong as it would mean we as a club do well; even a late winner on Saturday will (temporarily at least) make me alter my view. Possibly. Depending on the rest of his performance that day. And the strength of my 'agenda'. And my hangover.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Jan 9, 2014
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Sissoko is about to be eclipsed by friggin' N'Koudou, leaving Sissoko as the absolute worst player so far this season. Yes, I agree that in specific games, some performances have been worse than his. But for the season in total, from August until now, and after N'Koudou's lovely CL performance, Sissoko is the weakest link in the senior squad.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Oct 19, 2004
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Pochettino has got to carry the much of the can for the Sissoko debacle (and it is a debacle that a club of our current status and ambition has a player like this in our team). His constant pursuit of "that" type of player led to us signing him, and now, with a multitude of other options, including senior players and academy players, different formations that could work round those other options, Pochettino chooses not only to select Sissoko, but selects him in a role that isn't even his "best" (use the term reluctantly) role. Unlike some, I do not bow to Pochettino's superior judgement on this. It's poor judgement.
 

Coyboy

The Double of 1961 is still The Double
Dec 3, 2004
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Pochettino has got to carry the much of the can for the Sissoko debacle (and it is a debacle that a club of our current status and ambition has a player like this in our team). His constant pursuit of "that" type of player led to us signing him, and now, with a multitude of other options, including senior players and academy players, different formations that could work round those other options, Pochettino chooses not only to select Sissoko, but selects him in a role that isn't even his "best" (use the term reluctantly) role. Unlike some, I do not bow to Pochettino's superior judgement on this. It's poor judgement.

Shocking.
 
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