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MOTM

  • Lloris

    Votes: 4 2.1%
  • Trippier

    Votes: 2 1.0%
  • Toby

    Votes: 44 23.0%
  • Sanchez

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Rose

    Votes: 20 10.5%
  • Dier

    Votes: 5 2.6%
  • Winks

    Votes: 63 33.0%
  • Sissoko

    Votes: 13 6.8%
  • Moura

    Votes: 7 3.7%
  • Son

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Kane

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Lamela

    Votes: 3 1.6%
  • Wanyama

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Davies

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 8 4.2%
  • None Deserved

    Votes: 16 8.4%

  • Total voters
    191

Nebby

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Dec 27, 2013
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What the hell was up with Sanchez? Lost count of the times Dier or Winks were showing for ball only for Sanchez to play the ball sideways to Trips or Toby. He kept slowing down the play and looked very shakey again.
 

daryl hannah

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Sep 1, 2014
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What the hell was up with Sanchez? Lost count of the times Dier or Winks were showing for ball only for Sanchez to play the ball sideways to Trips or Toby. He kept slowing down the play and looked very shakey again.
The sideways and backwards passes are for any of three reasons:

1. For safety
2. To rotate the play to the other side of the pitch/up the middle
3. To draw the opposition out of their bus formation and create space between the lines

Whilst we enjoy a lot of possession this will continue to be the case. However, watching other teams play forward passes all the time you have to wonder if it's any more or less effective. It's not as pretty to watch but I think i understand why we persist with this sort of play.
 

A.J.

Member
Aug 22, 2018
177
218
Cardiff are a championship level side, and we should be putting 3 past a team that gives so much space away - even in their own box. Then they were down to 10, and no-one would have known as we did not make use of the extra man.
So our MOTM wasn't an attacking player, that's for sure.

Dier and Winks is a nice midfield pairing, and Dier did make the difference in the end, but I'd expect more against such poor opponents.

But Cardiff had grit and their goal was coming all game - that it didn't means someone was playing well.
So I gave it to Alderweireld as he was playing on his wrong side but was in the right place to mop up once or twice.

Take three of the most influential players out of any team at any level playing against a strict defensive lineup and Saturdays game is what you get.

It stupifies me how any fan with an ounce of football knowledge fails to understand that.
 

whitesocks

The past means nothing. This is a message for life
Jan 16, 2014
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Take three of the most influential players out of any team at any level playing against a strict defensive lineup and Saturdays game is what you get.

It stupifies me how any fan with an ounce of football knowledge fails to understand that.
Stupefies.

Against the level of teams like Cardiff, we should be giving our tired players a rest anyway.
OK we won but the cost of not knocking a few in has meant we have dropped to 5th, and below arsenal.

There were positives to take from the game, but not many for the attacking players.
 

JimmyG2

SC Supporter
Dec 7, 2006
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20,779
The sideways and backwards passes are for any of three reasons:

1. For safety
2. To rotate the play to the other side of the pitch/up the middle
3. To draw the opposition out of their bus formation and create space between the lines

Whilst we enjoy a lot of possession this will continue to be the case. However, watching other teams play forward passes all the time you have to wonder if it's any more or less effective. It's not as pretty to watch but I think i understand why we persist with this sort of play.

Not a difficult concept to grasp
But unless it's done
with some intent and more speed
it doesn't achieve 2 at all
and bus-parkers are not drawn out
it just give them time to park more tidily.

Toby Davison and Hugo
were the Tottenham equivalent
of the Bermuda Triangle.

At the start I counted 18 passes
along the back line
with 5 back passes from Sanchez to Hugo
before we got out of own half.
The bus had been serviced
and filled with petrol by then.
 

double0

Well-Known Member
Aug 29, 2006
14,423
12,258
Toby MOTM for me, thought all our midfielders and attackers weren't good enough today which made the job much harder than it needed to be, without Toby we could be easily sitting enraged with a draw or less in a game we should have won comfortably.

Or without Dier’s goal. I must be watching a different game to others because Toby and Lloris always tend to get favourable comments , whereby Sanchez Dier often now Kane even Dele Alli who’s not even playing get buried... anyone reading up on Son would think he can’t play football as for Sissoko the mere mention of his name sends people loopy.


Whats happened to our support
 

JimmyG2

SC Supporter
Dec 7, 2006
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20,779
Interesting that in such a drab performance
everyone bar Sanchez gets multiple votes for MOM
and 'none deserved' comes fourth.

Probably illustrates the view
that when everyone vies for MOM
nobody really deserves it.

Voted for Winks myself
but again he only turned up
for 20 minutes.

Better than Andy Warhols
famous for 15 minutes.
But only just.
 
May 17, 2018
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47,993
Interesting that in such a drab performance
everyone bar Sanchez gets multiple votes for MOM
and 'none deserved' comes fourth.

Probably illustrates the view
that when everyone vies for MOM
nobody really deserves it.

Voted for Winks myself
but again he only turned up
for 20 minutes.

Better than Andy Warhols
famous for 15 minutes.
But only just.

Just to clarify: are these poems?
 
May 17, 2018
11,872
47,993
I think you are asking
the wrong person.
I was merely eager to learn,
If it were a maverick carriage return;
Or if you were avoiding being terse,
To add more meat to the bones of your verse.

Alas, if you can't reveal the history,
It'll have to remain but a mystery.
If the style of your posts you sustain,
The unanswered question will remain.
 

JimmyG2

SC Supporter
Dec 7, 2006
15,014
20,779
I was merely eager to learn,
If it were a maverick carriage return;
Or if you were avoiding being terse,
To add more meat to the bones of your verse.

Alas, if you can't reveal the history,
It'll have to remain but a mystery.
If the style of your posts you sustain,
The unanswered question will remain.

Like it.
You are clearly
better qualified than me
to answer your own question.
The third line doesn't quite scan.

I thought you were going to write a limerick
when I read the first line.
 
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