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  1. Lloris

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  2. Chiiriches

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  3. Fazio

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  4. Verts

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  5. Davies

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  6. Bentaleb

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  7. Mason

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  8. Lennon

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  9. Lamela

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  10. Eriksen

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  11. Kane

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  12. Paulinho

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  14. Soldado

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  1. jonathanhotspur

    jonathanhotspur Loose Cannon

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    What do you mean by that?
     
  2. jezz

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    This being the one thing Id hope he have done by now. Goals.
    But saying that I think his team mates have been very selfish, examples like Chelsea, Kane should have cut the ball back for Lamela instead he tried to shoot from a tight angle, Arsenal Chadli should have squared the ball for a tap in for Lamela.
    He's been unlucky hitting the bar and post
    against Sunderland and Southampton.
    Stoke keeper pulled off a worldie from his free kick.
    Every game he plays he will create chances and does do.
    Yes he has flaws but every player does.
    No right foot? Brighton disagree.
     
  3. Spursidol

    Spursidol Well-Known Member

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    Yes I do care about Spurs - and the impact or otherwise .that players are having on the team. Irs called being a fan In general terms the more expensive the player the more I expect him to perform - hence the need to analyse the performances (including whether a player is one footed or two footed). And I'm hoping that Lamela ups his game a lot.
     
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  4. jonathanhotspur

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    I am surprised at the tone of some of your posts, Bobbins. Of course we care. Sad as it might be, Spurs means an awful lot to us.
     
  5. Bus-Conductor

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    Now you're sounding like the villain on scooby doo. Bah, if it wasn't for you're pesky meddling I'd a gotten away with it.
     
  6. Bobbins

    Bobbins SC's 14th Sexiest Male 2008

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    I'll be genuinely surprised if, come the end of the season, Lennon matches Lamela's goals/assists contribution given the same number of minutes played (roughly).

    Lennon's been one of the most unproductive players at the club for at least a couple of years.
     
  7. Spursidol

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    As I've pointed out before, AM's are supposed to score, as well as create. Top AM's playing for Spurs are supposed to score in PL - if they are still learning then of course they learn by scoring in the cups against lesser teams - so if Lamela scoring against Brighton is what you think hiis best moment is, then its clear that you think that's his level now. Compare that with Eriksen's 5 PL goals if you like.

    My point is that I'm expecting a far more developed player than that foir £30m (or £25m),
     
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  8. jonathanhotspur

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    I'm afraid I don't get your point.
     
  9. Blake Griffin

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    is that the be all and end all then? how about if everyone else around lamela suffers and we look shit as a result? was it happenstance that we looked far improved with lennon in the side against everton? would we have looked just as good if not better with lamela instead?
     
  10. jonathanhotspur

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    Years ago, you hammered me for hammering Lennon, so thanks for nothing, Bobbins.
     
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  11. Bus-Conductor

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    Is your opinion that everyone else suffers more when Lamela plays than if Lennon or Townsend play ?
     
  12. Spursidol

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    Think BC wants to write off this season.

    And I'm getting that way too, but only so we can move some under performing players on as well as develop others to the standard we need in time for next season. And I'm hoping Lamela ups his game to prove he's a PL player rather than one only able to look good in the cups/EL group stages
     
  13. Bobbins

    Bobbins SC's 14th Sexiest Male 2008

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    Ah I see, sorry, I must not be a fan then because I'm willing to give a young player some leeway and not analyse every single kick of the ball. My mistake. And here I was thinking I'd been supporting Spurs for thirty years. What a silly sausage I am!

    I don't think a fan's level of nitpicking is commensurate with their level of support for the club, mate. I understand that you're very interested in the incredibly fine details, but that doesn't mean someone who isn't (for perfectly good reasons) is less of a fan somehow.

    I'm not one of these 'football's a simple game innit' people, but I do think micro-analysis like this helps very few people (except the player, sometimes, when it comes from the coach). The bigger picture is more important, which is as I said above - is he contributing to the team, and is it at a level over and above the potential contributions of his rivals for the position?
     
  14. felmani26

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    To be perfectly honest, I couldn't give a tinkers toss if Lamela tackles more than Lennon or Townsend - none of which are going to go down in the annuls as 'hard nuts' on the field.

    This comparison with Lennon and Townsend has got to stop because it's a completely redundant subject as neither are proving to be long term players at this club. Being slightly better then them is hardly a ringing endorsement for a side looking to get back in the Champions League and win some silverware is it?!

    Lamela was brought in to be a match winner, a goal getter - someone who can create something from nothing and turn defeat into a draw and a draw into a victory. He hasn't done this. He doesn't look like doing this.

    Dempsey was a proverbial donkey on the pitch yet popped up match winning/saving moments - all of which hold far more credence than making one more tackle or intercepting a pass with his bollocks.

    Hell, even Siggy after being routinely panned here (myself included) would probably have similar stats to Lamela this season.

    Point is, Lamela's contribution is easily replaceable which is sentiment that myself, JH, Blake, Spurs Idol et al are all alluding to and there hasn't been a compelling argument to sway our views other than "he's a bit better than Azza and Andros" or laughably he could be the next Bale!
     
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  15. Bus-Conductor

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    Right now, I prefer to see Lemela play than the alternatives.
     
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  16. jonathanhotspur

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    I don't demand results these days, Spursidol, but I believe there is an opportunity there for us this season if we can put a few results together.
     
  17. Blake Griffin

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    at the moment ... yes, well with regards to lennon, probably not townsend. lamela closes the space, he's unpredictable in that his teammates don't really know what he's going to do(other than run into defenders currently) and i think lennon really set the tempo for others to follow in our pressing game on sunday, lamela's just not as sharp or as mobile to be as effective in that sense.
     
  18. Spursidol

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    Against Everton, Spurs looked far better as a team when Lennon played, which is up until he was subbed by Lamela.

    You can only look at individual games to form an opinion - and this is a good one as its a direct comparison where one player replaces another.

    And if you are not happy with that example, ask the other question. Did the extra £20m+ price tag show up against Everton - did Lamela make that much more of a difference than Lennon when he came on ?
     
  19. jezz

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    His best moment? Now your making stuff up.
    I said it in reference to the right foot.
    Chadli would have 3 goals less if Lamela wasn't feeding him.
    Care to name any through balls Eriksen or Chadli have played?
    I could name a shed load Lamela has played that haven't been finished.
    If they had this debate wouldn't be happening.
     
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  20. jezz

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    One game got any others?
     

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