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MOTM

  • Lloris

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Toby

    Votes: 29 6.9%
  • Sanchez

    Votes: 6 1.4%
  • Verts

    Votes: 61 14.4%
  • Aurier

    Votes: 34 8.0%
  • Dier

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dembele

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Davies

    Votes: 33 7.8%
  • Eriksen

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Son

    Votes: 5 1.2%
  • Kane

    Votes: 251 59.3%
  • Sissoko

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Llorente

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    423

punky

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I know the goal scorers usually get the MOTM vote but the real stars were the back 5. Aurier and Sanchez are absolute monsters. How long have have we waited for someone to win a header and two come along at once.

The whole back 6 are MOTM for me.
 

JimmyG2

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Dec 7, 2006
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Cohesive team and manager performance.
We had a plan and made it work.
They were very good
but we didn't let them or Wembley phase us.

HK inspirational.(8+)
Defence more than competent(8)
New boys especially(8)
Eriksen tireless(8)
Son lively(8) Dier sound(7)
Only Dembele (5) looked off the pace. Fit? Injured?
We had some luck but missed some good chances.
Fair and encouraging result.
Team defy hoodoo.
Hoodoo? Spurs.
 

yido_number1

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Jun 8, 2004
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Lloris - 6 - Distribution was sloppy at times but great save in the second half
Davies 8 - Won almost every duel and was a good outlet going forwards. Lots of blocks and tackles.
Toby 7 - Won almost every duel but lost one point for falling over when dribbled at.
Jan 8 - Really impressive tonight and even had runs going forward. Shame about the red but thought both yellows were really harsh.
Sanchez 6 - Decent performance, looks strong and won everything in the air. You definitely wouldn't want to play against him with his physicality. At times he looked like Ledley but got caught being casual once or twice.
Aurier 7 - Looked pretty good, couple of questionable moments in the first half but really grew with confidence. Look forward to seeing him grow with us.
Dembele 5 - Thought he was really poor last night. Definitely looks rusty this year but sure he will shake it off. Got better in the second half and sure he will improve with more game time.
Dier 6 - Solid but not as imposing as usual. Thought the yellow was harsh from my seat.
Eriksen 6 - No real time on the ball and wasn't able to influence as much as usual. Wasn't a bad game but he is capable of so much more.
Son 7 - Really well taken goal and looked good on the counter attack.
Kane 8 - well taken goals and fought hard against a back 3 to impose himself. Could of held the ball up better on occasion but the goals were well taken and job well done.

Poch - Thought we got the tactics right on this one, didn't work over hard to get the ball back and worked to soak up the pressure. Got a little lucky scoring our first couple of chances and that definitely helped our game management. Second half we looked a lot better and showed we belong at that level.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Jul 28, 2004
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Tactical flexibility? Check. New signings improving the first team? Check. Winning at Wembley? Check. Harry scoring for fun? Check.

Not too much to say that hasn't already been said. At half time we were fortunate to be ahead but had a resilient defence to thank. No shame against a side of this quality. Second half was different, we still had far less possession but used the bell far better, spent a lot of time passing around their area and but for some poor finishing would have scored more.

Lloris - great off his line, one fantastic save.

Alderweireld - fantastic game, best this season, mopped up at the back well, passed well, never fazed.

Sanchez - a live wire, very committed performance, bit clumsy occasionally but dealt with Aubemayang very well. Love his aerial presence.

Vertonghen - brilliant, just brilliant, absolute class throughout. Ridiculously harsh red.

Aurier - good debut v a tough opponent in Pulisic. Quick and strong, very committed. Good passing, wasted a couple of crossing situations.

Davies - again great, has come out of his shell and is making the spot his own. Not certain that Rose is first choice when he's fit if Davies keeps this up.

Dier - poor first half, okay second half, decent in the air and one good slide rule pass that I remember.

Dembele - at half time I questioned if this was the beginning of the end, one too many injuries etc. Goal summed him up. Second half was better, he was more physical and took better care of the ball. Worried about him on the big pitch.

Eriksen - grew into the game, when he was poor we couldn't get out of our half, when he was good we were in control even with less of the ball.

Son - great energy, lovely solo goal, should've scored when Harry played him in, pace was invaluable on the break.

Kane - our catalyst. First half was fighting without much joy bar his wonderfully determined solo strike. Second half was his uber best, linking play, always available, nice goal.

Sissoko - fine, bad miss, heavy touch but took responsibility for the ball and offered a good outlet.

Llorente - not much time but nice bustle with limited opportunity.

Fuck that stingy Levy for not strengthening our team and that awful Pochettino for his rubbish in game management! Bastards!
 

talkshowhost86

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Oct 2, 2004
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Lloris - 7 - Excellent save in the second half and was alive to a couple of through balls where he came out. Didn't deal that well with Dortmund blocking off his normal channels of distribution, but he wasn't as bad as some are suggesting.

Aurier - 8 - Really looked the part. Decent defensively even when up against it in the first half, and looked dangerous going forwards. Really hope he continues like this!

Toby - 9 - Imperious. Just a class act at the back and didn't really look phased all night.

Sanchez - 8 - Looks a real athlete and whilst he needs to work on his composure on the ball, I like him in his role as central defensive dominator.

Verts - 9 - Magnificent performance. Brilliant defensively, great when he marauded forward, and did well to keep his cool after one of the more ridiculous red cards I've ever seen.

Davies - 8 - Really grown into the role at left wing back, and whilst I think his position ultimately requires the pace of Rose, you'd be hard pushed to drop him the way he's playing at the moment both defensively and going forwards.

Dembele - 6 - Didn't deal well with the Dortmund pressing in the first half, losing the ball a fair amount, and didn't offer much defensive cover either. Much better in the second half, but I think we may need to consider Winks for the return leg.

Dier - 7 - Looked swamped in the first half, but put in some important interceptions before playing very well in the second half. Not sure him and Dembele is the best midfield combo though.

Eriksen - 7 - All over the place in the first half both defensively and going forwards, but once he managed to get his foot on the ball in the second half he started to dictate, and he also stuck to his pressing game very well in the second half.

Son - 7 - The usual bag of chaos from Son. So careless with the ball at times and missed a golden opportunity to wrap the game up a bit earlier, but he just gives teams so much to worry about. He was constantly in dangerous positions and his goal was fantastic.

Kane - 9 - Magnificent. Two goals. One assist. Could and perhaps should have had two more. He was trying to hard to get in behind the defence at every opportunity in the first half and lost the ball a lot as a result, but in the second half he was just brilliant.
 

Univarn

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I generally out of principal dislike giving the goalscorers man of the match just because they scores but Kane did a ton of work yesterday, not least of which shielding passes and clearing a couple of dangerous free kicks. If I could bundle our whole back line into a single player that would be our real man of the match. Each had moments of brilliance and a few whoopsies but collectively they covered for each other well and made so many well timed decisions.

Hugo 'Tight Thighs Saves Lives' Lloris - 8
Serge 'Tricks for Kicks' Aurier - 8
Toby '1v1 Champion of the World' Aldeweireld - 8
Davinson 'Fast as a Leopard' Sanchez- 7
'Super' Jan V - 9
'Big Bad' Ben Davies - 9
Eric 'You shall not pass' Dier - 7
Mousa 'Too old for this shit' Dembele - 7
Christian 'Double me or just quit' Eriksen - 7
Heung Min-Sone'shine on a cloudy day' - 9
Harry 'Dont tell my missus how much I love you' Kane - 10
 

AnotherSpursFan

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Hugo Lloris - Good but shit distribution
Aurier - Beast, distribution looks ok
Toby - some clutch tackles, but distribution was shit at times
Vertoghen - A man possesed, super verts, distribution looks ok
Sanchez - Beast mode, only one key pass, other than that distribution was shit
Eriksen - Runs into key position and made one godlike pass to Kane, but most of thr time distribution was shit
Dier - Versatile, good display, but needs to improve his dire distribution
Dembele - wtf mode today, atrocious distribution
Son - Runs alot, where the hell is his distribution today, f son
Kane - Scores two goals but distribution needs to improve so only a 6
 

talkshowhost86

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Oct 2, 2004
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Just a quick question for those saying Lloris' distribution was poor.

What do we think he should have done instead? With Dortmund keeping three players up on our defence at every goal-kick or clearance, it was very hard for him to play the ball short, and until Llorente came on it's not as if we had a target man.

Yes there were a couple of wildly inaccurate kicks, but I'm just surprised at the high level of criticism. Did I miss something from up in the gods at Wembley?
 
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adamsky

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Nah. King, Bale and Modric are the only players from that side who would trouble the starting XI now. We've improved hugely.
VDV was great too. Imagine Kane in place of Crouch in that team. Whilst I agree we are better in most positions we had 2/3 absolute world class players that we don't have now. Having a striker that scores 30 a season is hugely important and I think that Redknapp team could have won league with Kane.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Oct 19, 2004
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This comment from a Dortmund fan is imo the biggest clue that Pochettino intented to do what we did the first 20/25 minutes of the game.

I'm not arguing one way or the other, I have no idea, and actually would like to think that at least some of that was a tactical game plan because it would add another string to our tactical bow, but that snippet doesn't support the idea it was intentional by Poch does it? It merely suggests how wrong the Dortmund fan thought Bosz got it doesn't it?
 
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talkshowhost86

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Hugo Lloris - Good but shit distribution
Aurier - Beast, distribution looks ok
Toby - some clutch tackles, but distribution was shit at times
Vertoghen - A man possesed, super verts, distribution looks ok
Sanchez - Beast mode, only one key pass, other than that distribution was shit
Eriksen - Runs into key position and made one godlike pass to Kane, but most of thr time distribution was shit
Dier - Versatile, good display, but needs to improve his dire distribution
Dembele - wtf mode today, atrocious distribution
Son - Runs alot, where the hell is his distribution today, f son
Kane - Scores two goals but distribution needs to improve so only a 6

Did your missus leave you for someone who works in distribution?
 

BringBack_leGin

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I doubt Pochettino was please at half time with quite how penned into our own half we were, I doubt that this is ever his intention. While off the ball the deeper, more patient approach might have been the plan, I think on the ball he'd have expected us to be far better. I imagine the improved performances of Dembele, Dier, Eriksen in the second half may well have been after a bit of a bollocking.

One thing that I'm not sure has been mentioned (apologies if it has), this was the first time Son and Kane have really been synergous in their play. They found each other in dangerous areas constantly and really timed/ directed their runs in complement to each other.
 

talkshowhost86

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I'm not arguing one way or the other, I have no idea, and actually would like to think that at least some of that was a tactical game plan because it would add another string to our tactical bow, but that snippet doesn't support the idea it was intentional by Poch does it? It merely suggests how wrong Bosz got it doesn't it?

I don't think the first half was exactly as Poch planned it. I think the plan was to sit deep and hit them on the break, but we let them have the ball too much in key areas, and our shape was all wrong meaning that Aurier in particular was constantly double-teamed, and as you say Dier and Dembele both couldn't cope with the passing or the press when we needed to keep the ball.

In the second half it was noticeable that without the ball we dropped more into a sort of 3-4-2-1 formation, with Son and Eriksen shuttling across to help the fullbacks, but most importantly with Kane they were putting much more pressure on the defenders meaning they couldn't build up their moves as easily as they were allowed to at half time.

So for me it's credit where it's due to Poch. He saw a problem and he fixed it.

If all are available for the return leg in Dortmund though, I'd potentially go Wanyama and Winks over Dier and Dembele.
 

talkshowhost86

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I doubt Pochettino was please at half time with quite how penned into our own half we were, I doubt that this is ever his intention. While off the ball the deeper, more patient approach might have been the plan, I think on the ball he'd have expected us to be far better. I imagine the improved performances of Dembele, Dier, Eriksen in the second half may well have been after a bit of a bollocking.

One thing that I'm not sure has been mentioned (apologies if it has), this was the first time Son and Kane have really been synergous in their play. They found each other in dangerous areas constantly and really timed/ directed their runs in complement to each other.

They looked really good together didn't they? Seemed to have a real understanding of where the other was going to be, although I doubt we'll see many games where they have quite so much space in behind the defence.
 

Klinsmannesque

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Thought Kane, Davies, Jan and Toby were excellent throughout, especially the defenders, always looked calm and controlled. Aurier had a strong debut, Sanchez marshalled PEA very well when the ball was on the floor, couple of 'excitable' moments where he made the wrong decision or got wrong footed and had to be bailed out - but he's young and thats why he's flanked by the belgians.

Dier and Dembele were non-existant first half, Dier improved massively in the second, his positioning and body shape especially - Dembele was marginally better but think thats more down to Dortmund tiring. Certainly not one of his best nights

Son worked hard, Eriksen came to the party more as the game wore on - gave the ball way first half, better 2nd as we had more options opening up the space for him.

Davies for me was motm - first time ive had a chance to see him in a few games aside from highlights and he was very impressive - looked classy on the ball, and his bursting runs late on show whilst not rapid he has an engine.Rose won't just be walking straight back in based on that.
 
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