Match Ratings Ratings vs Inter

[whitesocks]

Wtf is ridiculous about saying a player could have put us 2 up if he had taken one of his chances.....

Rightfully or wrongfully, that might have been why he was substituted.
The game should have been put to bed - our attack was as much to blame for the defeat as our defence.

 

[EastLondonYid]

Rightfully or wrongfully, that might have been why he was substituted.
The game should have been put to bed - our attack was as much to blame for the defeat as our defence.

Lamela came off after 72 and they didn't have a shot until they equalised on 86 ....some on here willl let you believe we caved in the second when he went off.

The truth is when a team is shot of confidence ,it will retreat in the final minutes as they become twitchy, and thats what really happened...if their forward doesn't pull a rabbit out of the hat we probably go on to win and there is no talk of Lamela going off.

 

[jezz]

Wtf is ridiculous about saying a player could have put us 2 up if he had taken one of his chances.....

Because you're making it sound like those were the only chances in the game and it his fault we lost which is ridiculous.

 

[jezz]

Lamela came off after 72 and they didn't have a shot until they equalised on 86 ....some on here willl let you believe we caved in the second when he went off.

The truth is when a team is shot of confidence ,it will retreat in the final minutes as they become twitchy, and thats what really happened...if their forward doesn't pull a rabbit out of the hat we probably go on to win and there is no talk of Lamela going off.

Because at that time we were in control of the game and creating chances after the substitution we tried to shut up shop which failed.
I understand the reason why Poch changed the formation but it failed so in hindsight it was a tactical error.

 

[EastLondonYid]

Because you're making it sound like those were the only chances in the game and it his fault we lost which is ridiculous.

What a load of bollocks......stop making things up ,where do i say all that?.

 

[EastLondonYid]

Because at that time we were in control of the game and creating chances after the substitution we tried to shut up shop which failed.
I understand the reason why Poch changed the formation but it failed so in hindsight it was a tactical error.

We lost because we couldn't defend properly at a corner ,Aurier failed to stop a cross which led to a strike out of nowhere,and we have a weak keeper

 

[Shadydan]

We lost because we couldn't defend properly at a corner ,Aurier failed to stop a cross which led to a strike out of nowhere,and we have a weak keeper

There is a multitude of factors as to why we lost that game, pinning the loss of those two instances is wide of the mark.

 

[EastLondonYid]

There is a multitude of factors as to why we lost that game, pinning the loss of those two instances is wide of the mark.

wide of the mark??? those 2 instances resulted in goals against...goals against is the only way you can lose.

 

[Lighty64]

watched a different game than most of you. Dier broke up their midfield play all night, and was the only one consistently doing that. He didnt do much else but he never does much else, hes a DM and played like a DM.

It wont matter who we play if we cant learn how to defend a corner.

Not picking on you personally, and it is annoying conceding from set pieces so often, but how do you defend a set piece. You can set up man marking as much as you like, but if the delivery is good, and the offensive player gets to it, it’s a matter of hoping at the time his header doesn’t hit the target

 

[Shadydan]

wide of the mark??? those 2 instances resulted in goals against...goals against is the only way you can lose.

Those two instances aren't the reason why we lost, for example:

Kane's miss
Lamela having chances to wrap the game up
Shit subs
Changing formation mid-match
Poor game management

As I said multitude of factors, the reason we lost isn't down to those two isolated incidents. In football you try and make the best conditions in the match which sets up your team for a result, so if we concede a goal it's a result of negligence or not doing our jobs properly prior to that.

Also I'm not really sure what Vorm could have done for either goal, we didn't lose because he was weak, we lost because the team was weak.

 

[EastLondonYid]

Those two instances aren't the reason why we lost, for example:

Kane's miss
Lamela having chances to wrap the game up
Shit subs
Changing formation mid-match
Poor game management

As I said multitude of factors, the reason we lost isn't down to those two isolated incidents. In football you try and make the best conditions in the match which sets up your team for a result, so if we concede a goal it's a result of negligence or not doing our jobs properly prior to that.

Also I'm not really sure what Vorm could have done for either goal, we didn't lose because he was weak, we lost because the team was weak.

I used to play Centre half semi pro level .

When we had a weak keeper in the team we knew it, we felt it and we all played with less assurance.

Vorm makes everyone nervous, his kicking is poor, his presence is poor, his general game is poor

He makes the team edgy. You may say he didn't directly cause the defeat, but he contributed to it by spreading a shaky feeling and throughout the team.

 

[Shadydan]

I used to play Centre half semi pro level .

When we had a weak keeper in the team we knew it, we felt it and we all played with less assurance.

Vorm makes everyone nervous, his kicking is poor, his presence is poor, his general game is poor

He makes the team edgy. You may say he didn't directly cause the defeat, but he contributed to it by spreading a shaky feeling and throughout the team.

Yeah fine but blaming him for the loss is harsh.

 

[double0]

Those two instances aren't the reason why we lost, for example:

Kane's miss
Lamela having chances to wrap the game up
Shit subs
Changing formation mid-match
Poor game management

As I said multitude of factors, the reason we lost isn't down to those two isolated incidents. In football you try and make the best conditions in the match which sets up your team for a result, so if we concede a goal it's a result of negligence or not doing our jobs properly prior to that.

Also I'm not really sure what Vorm could have done for either goal, we didn't lose because he was weak, we lost because the team was weak.

In game management and formation change during a games is something people seem to have picked up on with Poch. Now imo it should be encouraged to a degree our squad and players would be better for it as the season goes on in my view however you look at the top teams around the world and they seem to stick to a certain formula.

The players have to also take greater responsibility Poch has done wonders for a lot of the players and improved them

 

[fortworthspur]

Not picking on you personally, and it is annoying conceding from set pieces so often, but how do you defend a set piece. You can set up man marking as much as you like, but if the delivery is good, and the offensive player gets to it, it’s a matter of hoping at the time his header doesn’t hit the target

4 goals off corners in 3 matches - it seems unlikely we've faced four of the best corners we'll see in such a short span.

 

[Lighty64]

4 goals off corners in 3 matches - it seems unlikely we've faced four of the best corners we'll see in such a short span.

3 corners 1 set piece

I agree but the Watford game, Toby miss judged the corner and it literally bounced of their defenders head in.

Liverpool just crowded the keeper and got the delivery spot on, VVD is a massive unit and Vorm shouldn't of attempted getting there, or made sure he punched it, Dier (if you saw Goals on Sunday) was actually holding down Trippier, but his header away was weak and the wrong direction, had Gazzaniga been the keeper the extra height means he might of cleared the 1st go

Last night they hit it deep, they got the delivery perfect and the header made it's target.

it's very hard to train against them unless you know what type of set piece and starting position the opposite team will do with them, but still no guarantee the opposition will stick to that option

 

[Deggsy56]

I wanna know why Toby and Trippier were left at home for a crucial match. Rested? What for Brighton ffs ??? Winks is not CL material imo. Surely to progress in CL you should play your best team available????

 

[Lighty64]

On the positive , there was the first sign , fleeting tho , of our Kane (5.5) Christian (7) showed up at last too . Bit of the 2nd half we briefly looked ourselves again .

But somethings up with us inc motivation probs . I HATE how we are going back to old times where our defenders simply allow crosses to come in .

looking at a replay of the cross that they scored the equaliser from Aurier was at fault for his starting position, but was never in a position to block the cross, but the distance from Iccardi to Vertonghen, there is no way Jan shouldn't be trying to block that, by putting his body on the line

 

[Lighty64]

We lost because we couldn't defend properly at a corner ,Aurier failed to stop a cross which led to a strike out of nowhere,and we have a weak keeper

watch the highlights again Aurier might of been at fault for being too narrow when their left back crossed it back, but he couldn't get anywhere near him before he did cross it. as I said in my above post only Vertonghen could of done anything to stop the 1st goal for them. Aurier was marking his man when they started their attack

 

[Lighty64]

I wanna know why Toby and Trippier were left at home for a crucial match. Rested? What for Brighton ffs ??? Winks is not CL material imo. Surely to progress in CL you should play your best team available????

at a guess Toby was left home for family reasons, and Sanchez played well last night. Also as Poch mentioned in his post match rant when asked why, he mentioned they never stopped us losing v Watford or Liverpool.

if you have followed us during the Poch reign, you might of noticed when we play 2 games a week, he rotates the RB/WB's and if Trippier was being rotated then why not give him a complete rest after a long summer. Pluse Aurier was our best player in many of our eyes

 

[dtxspurs]

at a guess Toby was left home for family reasons, and Sanchez played well last night. Also as Poch mentioned in his post match rant when asked why, he mentioned they never stopped us losing v Watford or Liverpool.

if you have followed us during the Poch reign, you might of noticed when we play 2 games a week, he rotates the RB/WB's and if Trippier was being rotated then why not give him a complete rest after a long summer. Pluse Aurier was our best player in many of our eyes

VY in the "lets laugh at spurs thread" said they had a fight after the Liverpool game. So was more than rest/family stuff.