Ratings vs Liverpool

MOM

  • Lloris

  • Walker

  • Dier

  • Vert

  • Rose

  • Bentaleb

  • Mason

  • Lamela

  • Dembele

  • Eriksen

  • Kane

  • Paulinho

  • Chadli

  • Soldado

  • Undecided

  • None deserved


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ravo

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#21
Since when has defending not been a pre-requisite for fullbacks? So often this season we have burned down the flanks. How many pens has Rose given away now? So fucking frustrating!
 

Sweech

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#23
It wasn't as bad as some are making out, I thought we had a good showing and could have just as easily won, just a few players who underperformed.
 

YiddoBirdy

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#24
Thought we played fairly decent to be honest. Bentaleb had a bit of a shocker today but overall still a performance we can take positives from. Thought the work rate was excellent and we were a threat going forward. Dembele was easily my motm he was excellent IMO.
 

UncleBuck

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#25
I've always believed that you don't change a winning team but after tonight Stambouli should have been in the middle.
Moose was excellent today, think I'll leave it at that....
 

Wrenchy

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#26
Poch: Absolutely inexcusable not to rotate.
I think if it wasn't such an important game, he probably would have, but I think when you play against a direct league rival you have to play your best XI. Also, perhaps he doesn't believe in the ability of the replacements? Give him the summer to swap the dross left behind from the previous regime for players he and his scouting team feel suitable to his system, then i'm sure he'll feel more comfortable rotating.

Very harsh ratings to. Liverpool are the form team of the PL, hadn't conceded a goal from open play in 900 minutes (apparently) and are our bogey team at the moment. We played a hell of a game and should be proud of the effort. To give any one of them 3/10 is ridiculous.
 

Chris12

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#27
I was shocked at how shit their ground was and not so shocked about how quiet the crowd was. No excuse, just saying.
 

Larryjanta

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#29
Great - Dembele (looks a different player), fans
Good - Dier, Lamela
Average - everyone else pretty much. did lots of good stuff, lots of alright stuff and lots of shit stuff.
Poor - Chadli (didn't track Lallana), Mason (I love you Ryan and you'd still start the next game and some of your long passes were sublime but lacked the controlled aggression we've seen in recent weeks), Poch (poor subs but still love him)

Felt I had to justify the poor marks as I thought we did ok. Really enjoyed the game and we look in good shape. Play like that against 14 teams in the Prem and we'll do ok.
 

DiamondLites

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#30
I thought Dier was caught out a few times personally, his pace recovered a few times but positionally he was a bit hit and miss. I still think Faz and Verts is our best pairing, for now at least

Lamela was excellent for the first hour, but he was flagging towards the end. Poor decision when he should have played in Mason, but other than that he was bright, inventive and brave. Moose was dominant again, I love him in the advanced role the only downside is it means Chadli is the odd one out
 

Larryjanta

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#31
Eriksen, Benteleb, Mason all looked tired. Thought we would have seen Stambouli and Townsend today..
In hindsight I agree with you but loved the side at the time. Was always going to be tough coming off such an emotional Derby. We're doing ok though, happy with that performance and we could have been the team to snatch the winner.
 

JohannTHFC

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#33
Dembele what a baller this guy is!
Lamela also did great today imo, definitely more to see of him.
I'm proud of my team that we didn't go down without a fight and despite Phil Dowd being against us for most of the match and tired, tired legs the guys left everything on the pitch. I definitely think we're back yo being as good as we were in 2012-13 (if not better!) the important thing is will we throw it away again like we did that Summer or will we build on it?
 

Davo99

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#34
Lloris 6

Walker 5
Dier 8
Vertonghen 5
Rose 5

Mason 6
Bentaleb 7
Dembele 7

Lamela 7
Eriksen 6

Kane 6
 

theShiznit

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#35
Don't think anyone covered themselves in glory tonight tbh...

If I had to give a MOTM i'd go for Lamela, mainly on his application, but a nice pass for Kane's goal helped.
 

DEFchenkOE

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#36
Poch: Absolutely inexcusable not to rotate. Absolutely no way players like Mason, Bentaleb, and Rose were going to be fit for this game. They worked tirelessly on Saturday, just no way to put in a repeat effort with this recovery time. Furthermore, the "letdown spot" is a pretty well known phenomenon, especially for younger players, and you could see they were all half as good as Saturday, coming off the high of a big derby win. Mason and Bentaleb in particular were absolutely woeful.
99% of people in the matchday thread were happy with the same lineup. I only saw people complain about Stambouli not being on the bench.
 

MattyP

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#37
Lamela played well, as did Dembele.
Midfield two were poor, gave the ball away a lot.
Kane scored, did okay.
Fullbacks crap but didn't have much protection in front, caught out of position a lot but that's as much due to someone else giving the ball away.
Eriksen poor.
 

Strikeb4ck

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#38
99% of people in the matchday thread were happy with the same lineup. I only saw people complain about Stambouli not being on the bench.
I know. That's why I'm questioning the people who gave me Disagree ratings for saying we needed to rotate in the Liverpool team thread.
 

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#39
Lloris - 4 Not his best game at all and looked to lack concentration
Rose - 5 Poor penalty but did cover quite well
Walker - 5 Looked like a left back Naughton
Dier - 7 Poor defending for the Balotelli goal, but did really well otherwise
Vertonghen - 7 Some great defensive work imo, works well with Dier and got us out the crap at times
Bentaleb - 4 Not a good game for him at all
Mason - 5 Average performance mixed in with some decent, some poor
Dembele - 7 Kept us in it
Lamela - 7.5 Did really well both defensively and should have had a goal, but for a class save
Eriksen - 5 If I could bet on where his corners would go, I'd be a millionaire - near post defender every time
Kane - 7 A goal and an assist, but didn't show signs of getting a second too often

Subs - Paulinho was completely ineffective, Chadli didn't see much of the game, feel sorry for Soldado being made to come on and get barely a touch of the ball as we go in to panic hopeless long ball mode


Overall, they got jammy. Our passing from Bentaleb and Mason was woeful at times and we gave the ball away too much. Unlucky for us, their worst players had freak performances.
 
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