Ratings vs Liverpool

Discussion in 'Match Ratings Archive' started by Bulletspur, Feb 10, 2015.

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  1. Lloris

  2. Walker

  3. Dier

  4. Vert

  5. Rose

  6. Bentaleb

  7. Mason

  8. Lamela

  9. Dembele

  10. Eriksen

  11. Kane

  12. Paulinho

  13. Chadli

  14. Soldado

  15. Undecided

  16. None deserved

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  1. carpediem991

    carpediem991 Well-Known Member

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    I praised Poch for his decisions on Saturday, today he just got some wrong. Paulinho is the most dull player he uses and it was always going to bite us not to have a real cover for central midfield on the bench. Rather get Dembele back next to Nabil and play Chadli as no. 10 for half an hour.
    The last substitute should have been Townsend as we needed someone to create anything of magic, not another converter.

    Team looked tired but thats not surprising given the tempo we are always playing.
    The 9 day break will do us favours.

    Lloris - 5 - first fault this season in the lague really. Shame it had to be against the deluded Pool
    Dier - 6.5 - mixed bag. Some class defending but in the end lost Balotelli for the winner and gave Lazar too much space
    Vertonghen - 6,5 - in my opinion not great but a solid game. To handle Sturridge is very very difficult. SOm eshit passing though.
    Rose - 5 - Ibe gave him a mare
    Walker - 6 - not convincing
    Mason - 5
    Bentaleb - 5 - Both had a few good moments in offense esp Mason unlucky not to get the ball by Lamela but my god they invited Pool to score at times. They put Sturridge through more often than any Liverpool player and lost some balls too easily. They are both young and will learn.
    Lamela - 7 - Surprisingly solid game by Erik unlucky not to score but hell yes he got an assist. Improved
    Dembele - 7.5 - My MOTM, very good hold up play and finally first goal of the season shame he is soo one footed
    Eriksen - 6 - not a good day for Eriksen. Looked a bit tired and today is defensive work wasnt too good, Rose needed more help
    Kane - 7 - another goal and assist. Quiet aside from that, but he did his job as a striker

    Paulinho - 3 - joke of a player. I blame Poch for picking him
    Chadli - 5 - Needs to start a game
    Soldado - NET- Townsend would be more useful I guess. Or even Fazio for long balls.
     
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  2. MattyP

    MattyP Advises to have a beer & sleep with prostitutes

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    Am hoping that someone from Dyson was watching Paulinho's contribution tonight and will offer us £20m for him as a prototype for one of those robot hoovers.

    Because he covered quite a lot of the pitch without ever looking to make contact with anything.
     
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  3. Spurs 1961

    Spurs 1961 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry I have to disagree with all the so called 'tactical' inadequacies. I just thjought as good as everyone was on Saturday the whole team was ten percent off so lacked the sharpness needed to focus and cut out errors. Sure some had better games than others but tactics had little to do with it. Sorry if that goes against the trend for pseudo tactical analysis
     
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  4. mpickard2087

    mpickard2087 Fantastic Member

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    So being 10% off left us completely unable to sort out the 2 vs. 1 down our left hand side for the whole game... As just one example?
     
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  5. joseph

    joseph Icarus

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    Eriksen may run alot but he bottles more challenges than anyone in the squad
     
  6. Bus-Conductor

    Bus-Conductor SC Supporter

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    The lord giveth and the lord kicketh in the bollocks

    I can't think of a game that's had me steaming more than this one this season. But not because we were poor, but because of the sheer injustice of having to concede a late winner in a game that our players had put so much into, under very testing circumstances.

    That was a real test tonight, Liverpool are the form side, at home and we'd played our bollocks off three days prior. LIverpool set about us and both teams basically applied the same hard pressing approach. It was frenetic, and our young team made plenty of mistakes, both teams were careless with the ball in the final third numerous times. Everyone was guilty of really poor decisions or execution when attacking and likewise, numerous players were guilty of making hazardous passes around the back end, under pressure, that caused us palpitations.

    What we cannot criticise, what we must applaud with gusto, is the work our players put in tonight. Mistakes were made, some stupid but mostly honest, but we showed no fear, we gave no quarter for free.

    For 80 minutes this was like two very evenly matched middle weights both wanting to be on the front foot, both jabbing, jabbing, jabbing, working the ribs, tenderising the abdomen, if the game ebbed, it only ebbed in inches. The cruel irony was that I felt we were actually starting to marginally edge it at the time they scored that dagger through my bollocks winner. I knew that was it, we'd been done by as we had many times done to others. Even crueler was the doer was that fucking clown prick, scoring his first EPL goal.

    Dembele was excellent, when all around him losing their footballing heads a little, he was calm, and where in CM his calm dribbling begets ponderousness, tonight it provided much needed composure and retention. His work rate matched others and he gave the ball away less than everyone. MOTM for me.

    Lamela also deserves a mention. It was a superb piece of play that got us back to 1-1, a quick set of passing interchanges and movement, followed by a clever reverse through ball. He worked as hard as anyone and several times chased back and won the ball back, as well as the assist and general hard graft, he tackled and intercepted more than anyone in our team.

    I am liking what I am seeing. My heart is far more compassionate of error when it is bettered by endeavour. The last two weeks I've liked this team more than any other in recent years. It lacks Modric's purity and VDV's romany twinkle, but it is developing something that no Spurs team has had for decades, bollocks. And I like it.

    Individual stuff:

    Lloris - That ball clearly took a really small bobble.

    Walker - It wouldn't be Walker if he didn't do a couple of daft things, but generally was pretty good and provided needed energy on the right.

    Dier - Deecent game, couple of brilliantly vital tackles. I don't blame him for the goal, it was just one of those things.

    Vertonghen - very good game.

    Rose - Defensively a couple of lapses but generally decent, like Walker, worked hard to get up and down.

    Mason - After another iffy start I thought he got better and had a very decent game after that.

    Bentaleb - Like Mason, got off to a hesitant start, but grew into the game and was decent.

    Lamela - Don't understand why he didn't play Mason in, but that aside it was a very good performance. Great build up play for the 1-1, lots of work without the ball and with.

    Dembele - Really good game, his ability to put his foot on the ball and calm things down was a benefit mostly instead of of the hindrance it has been when he's playing in CM. Still needs to release it a bit quicker at times, but overall a damn good performance. MOTM

    Eriksen - Shed a little tear of pride when he got a booking for fouling their guy. Who'd have though the flimsiest viking to ever leave Middlefart would become a busy ****. More examples tonight of why his assist count is suffering I think, a poor couple of crosses and miserably failed through balls, but his other game play was good and work rate exceptionally good.

    Kane - Got to compose himself and make a better choice at times. Should have played in Eriksen (I think) first half for example, and should have pulled the trigger when put through by Eriksen I think. But he is a kid, and still popped up with a goal, worked his bollocks off and was generally decent.
     
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  7. Bus-Conductor

    Bus-Conductor SC Supporter

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    To be fair, I think Pochettino tried to address this second half and we saw Eriksen doubling up with Rose at times and Ibe was quieter I thought.
     
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  8. mpickard2087

    mpickard2087 Fantastic Member

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    If we tried to, we certainly failed to.
     
  9. Strikeb4ck

    Strikeb4ck Well-Known Member

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    Getting nothing but disagrees and dislikes and all for this post, still have not got one valid reason why???

    You really want to tell me you'd rather have had some of the 50% physically/mentally fit players we had out there today as opposed to say this lineup?

    Kane
    Chadli Eriksen Lamela
    Dembele Stambouli
    Davies Verts Fazio Walker
    Lloris​
     
  10. tippspur59

    tippspur59 Well-Known Member

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    Dembélé motm,Dier and Lamela played well,not much after that.Bentaleb very poor I thought.
     
  11. Bus-Conductor

    Bus-Conductor SC Supporter

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    I don't really remember Ibe terrorising us second half like he did a few times first half. He saw the ball less second half for sure.
     
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  12. MattyP

    MattyP Advises to have a beer & sleep with prostitutes

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    You gave Dier the highest rating and said he played well, but still maintain Fazio should've started in his place?

    Overall, and with the greatest of respect, I'll trust the judgement in terms of team selection and mental/physical fitness to the swathes of professionals we have at the club than someone posting on an Internet forum after the game has finished.

    It's a bit like watching the lottery draw and afterwards saying I would've picked different numbers. Hindsight is 20:20.
     
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  13. mpickard2087

    mpickard2087 Fantastic Member

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    I wouldn't say that was due to anything we did. I still saw numerous times where Rose was left two vs. one. If I had to hazard a guess as to why he did a bit less I'd say it was a case of a kid new to the PL getting tired towards the end. Still wasn't properly sorted out though, as we saw for the winning goal...
     
  14. spurs-r-us

    spurs-r-us Well-Known Member

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    Lloris - 4
    Walker - 5
    Dier - 6
    Vertonghen - 5
    Rose - 4
    Mason - 5
    Bentaleb - 4
    Eriksen - 5.5
    Dembele - 6.5
    Lamela - 5
    Kane - 6
     
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  15. Strikeb4ck

    Strikeb4ck Well-Known Member

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    Yes, because rotation is a comprehensive thing. That's my point: I'm not giving a kneejerk reaction based on the match. I was saying we should have rotated 4-5 players on Saturday afternoon. Dier played great today but he could have pulled a Mason/Bentaleb too.

    And of course, we are all trusting the club's professionals for the judgement of team selection. We have no choice. That doesn't mean we can't vehemently disagree with it. Saw that loss coming as soon as I saw the starting XI. I watch all sorts of sports and letdown spots are 100% real things and occur repeatedly. Was a completely different performance compared to that of Arsenal.
     
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  16. scat1620

    scat1620 L'espion mal fait

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    I'm a big fan of Bentaleb, but without doing full ratings for everyone I thought he had a real stinker tonight. Liverpool scored one and could have had two or three more as a direct result of passes he misplaced in dangerous areas. Bad day at the office, but I'm confident we won't see anything like that in his next run-out.
     
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  17. danielneeds

    danielneeds Kick-Ass

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    Don't be fecking daft. Liverpool won't lose many at home for the rest of the season, and perhaps won't get pushed to wire like we did tonight.
     
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  18. yusrisafri

    yusrisafri Well-Known Member

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    Do you actually realise that he was slightly tugged back by balotelli, causing his momentum to stutter? I'm not saying that balotelli's goal shouldnt have counted but to blame dier for that goal is actually wrong
     
  19. carpediem991

    carpediem991 Well-Known Member

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    Always impressed with your analyse @Bus-Conductor. Again a good read where I can nearly completely agree. Only think Bentaleb and Mason weren't decent at all. But thats okay they won us the game on Sat.
     
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  20. spurs-r-us

    spurs-r-us Well-Known Member

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    We're above them on the table and just did Arsenal.

    I'm not settling for regular Tottenham here. They scored because of our mistakes, and only didn't put more past us because of theirs.
     

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