Match Ratings Ratings vs Newcastle

[Frozen_Waffles]

Gave it to Dembele, I thought he was excellent in the first half. Eriksen - usual, class.

KWP - Made it look easy and should hopefully shut up the people moaning about not signing a RB.

One thing we take for granted nowadays is Lloris, after watching Simon Mignolet yesterday I don't think people realise how lucky we are to have him.

Son has to start the next game and Wanyama of course.

Sissoko - well I think there is no need for any more words except - We would like to thank him for the energy he expelled on the pitch and we wish him all the best in his future endeavours.

 

[whitelightwhiteheat]

I thought Shaun Kyle Walker-Wright-Phillips-Peters was man of the match. He had a solid game down the right.

 

[mano-obe]

KWP was so good we don't know his name

 

[gp13tot]

Lloris 7

Kwp 7
Toby 7
Jan 7
Davies 6 - didn't think he was great despite the goal. Wouldn't want him as 1st choice, sorry

Dier 7
Dembele 8
Sissoko 5
Alli 6 - typical alli, you can't sub him at 0 0 even if having a stinker, as the case today
Eriksen 8 MOM

Kane 6

Son 7

 

[mw828]

Shaun Wright-Philips MOTM for sure

Seriously though, this is clearly Eriksen. He was central to everything.

Hugo: 7
KWP: 8
Toby: 7
Verts: 7
Davies: 8
Dier: 7
Dembele: 7.5
Sissoko: 6
Dele: 7.5
Eriksen: 8.5
Kane: 7

 

[Good Doctor M]

Lloris 6 - Hadn't much to do

KWP 7 - Impressed - belongs in the Prem
Toby 6 - Standard stuff
Jan 6 - Standard stuff
Davies 6 - Google-able

Dier 5 - Rusty
Dembele 7 - Controlled
Sissoko 5 - Doesn't belong in a Top 10 team, let alone a top 4
Alli 6 - Quiet
Eriksen 8 - MOM

Kane 6 - August

Son 7 - Necessary

 

[The Apprentice]

Eriksen was the difference as he so often is.

KWP had a steady debut.

Sissoko, hopefully has played his way out of the squad.

 

[Riandor]

Lloris- 7
KWP - 7.5
Ald. - 7
Vert. - 7
Davies - 7
Dembele - 7.5
Dier - 7
Sissoko - 6
Dele - 6.5
Eriksen - 8
Kane - 6.5

 

[jonnyp]

Eriksen clearly motm in a pretty lethargic performance

 

[Coyboy]

Gave it to Dembele, I thought he was excellent in the first half. Eriksen - usual, class.

KWP - Made it look easy and should hopefully shut up the people moaning about not signing a RB.

One thing we take for granted nowadays is Lloris, after watching Simon Mignolet yesterday I don't think people realise how lucky we are to have him.

Son has to start the next game and Wanyama of course.

Sissoko - well I think there is no need for any more words except - We would like to thank him for the energy he expelled on the pitch and we wish him all the best in his future endeavours.

Agreed generally on Lloris, but he was still taking about 4 too many touches today when getting a pass back even when defenders often deliberately pass it onto his left. Really annoys me.

 

[glospur]

I have to admit, Im surprised I missed this tweet:

Tottenham Hotspur‏Verified account@SpursOfficial 4m4 minutes ago
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We are delighted to announce that we have reached agreement with Phoenix Rising FC for the permanent transfer of Shaun Wright-Philips for an undisclosed fee. #WelcomeShaun

 

[Deleted member 29446]

Eriksen - what a player. Our most important player.

Don't get the positive Dembele ratings. Sure he did ok and owned the midfield.
But he also played 3 or 4 terrible passes which let to a direct counter 4v3 - if Newcastle was more skilled they should have scored. Did ok for me. But nowhere same ratings as Eriksen

 

[whitesocks]

Dembele MOTM

PS What are the best player/match stats sites online - any recommendations?
I used to have a peek at FourFourTwo but I think they have given up this season.

I'm currently looking at http://epl.squawka.com/english-premier-league/13-08-2017/newcastle-vs-spurs/matches
but I'm hoping there might be something better/easier.

 

[Chris12]

I have to admit, Im surprised I missed this tweet:

Tottenham Hotspur‏Verified account@SpursOfficial 4m4 minutes ago
More
We are delighted to announce that we have reached agreement with Phoenix Rising FC for the permanent transfer of Shaun Wright-Philips for an undisclosed fee. #WelcomeShaun

So desperate for a signing that I double checked that.

 

[morris25]

Dembele is a beast
Ali was very poor, needs to up his game for Chelsea
Think KWP will struggle against Chelsea and we will play back 5

 

[Darrkespur]

Dembele MOTM

PS What are the best player/match stats sites online - any recommendations?
I used to have a peek at FourFourTwo but I think they have given up this season.

I'm currently looking at http://epl.squawka.com/english-premier-league/13-08-2017/newcastle-vs-spurs/matches
but I'm hoping there might be something better/easier.

I suggest Whoscored: https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1...r-League-2017-2018-Newcastle-United-Tottenham

They are by far the most comprehsnive stats site nowadays, and tend to be reasonably reliable in their analysis of the strengths and weaknesses of individual players.

On the subject of today's game, I thought Walker-Peters did really well after they targeted him early. Looks worthy of the senior squad, maybe we don't need another RB? Kane really grew into the game and I thought we looked better with Son's movement after he came on (his run forward was vital in opening up the space for Alli's goal), but the man of the match had to be Eriksen, he was everywhere, and that little flick over the defender on the touchline was amazing. Still getting his sights calibrated for his long range shooting but always at the heart of what we do. I really look forward to him and hopefully Barkley combining, think it could very enjoyable.

 

[parj]

Never doubted he was a believer in KWP but I see where you are coming from but it was he who said KWP was not ready which I disagreed with at the time

That's Poch doing his job. Imagine Poch said we don't need to replace Walker cos we have KWP. All the negative press on our transfers would have meant hug on KWP.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

The Ghost AVB Past

That was a carbon copy of many performances last season (Everton in last season's opener springs to mind. Very reminiscent of AVB's season where we would be very, very methodical, lots of possession, little tempo or wit, until Bale did something special, for Bale supplant Alli today.

For me, the next natural evolution for Poch is to manage to introduce more energy and bravery into our midfield, bringing with it some much needed tempo, incision and risk, but manage to coach that into the system, keeping cohesion and defensive discipline. I don't mean full Guardiola, or even full Klopp, all out blitz, but the balance has to shift a little away from the enormously risk averse 2 from 3 of Dembele, Wanyama and Dier, toward one of those (preferably Wanyama) and a more metronomic quick thinking, dynamic option. Or give the one formation he hasn't tried yet, 433 a go.

It was like the season had never ended really, lots of the same good and bad from last season. I know a reasonably unambitious bus park can stifle and be hard to get behind, but Dier and Dembele just does not help and is an unnecessary doubling-up of risk averse cautiousness. The passing goes to the safest option, in Dembele's case often after several touches. Alli was fucking atrocious apart from the goal, which showed his trade mark clever movement and good finish. I just do not buy the whole "it's the sloppy crap that makes him who he is" bollocks. I really can't see an uber club tolerating 80% of what he does, unless they convert to an all out second striker role, which is pretty much what he is for us most of the time effectively.

Eriksen was, as he often is, the real difference maker, 61 passes is great for an AM, but he manages to include the most sublime pass of the game in that tally, which opened up the obdurate defence that had become even less ambitious down to ten men. As he mostly is, our MOTM.

KWP had a very competent debut, there's more to come from this kid in an attacking and play game play sense, but as a debut, this was pretty much foot perfect, defensively sound and offensively supportive, stuck in a couple of decent crosses too and if our CM's could bypass A and go straight to option B, we might have seen more of him offensively as he was constantly in acres of space second half.

Individual

Lloris - Par

KWP - Very good debut.

Alderweireld - OK

Vertonghen - OK

Davies - Took his goal well, apart from that pretty standard.

Dier - Did a lot of pointing. There were times when people were looking for an out ball and he'd just be standing there. Pointing.

Dembele - Twisted and turned a bit.

Sissoko - We need to get him out of the shop window, it's killing his price.

Alli - fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, goal, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, subbed out.

Eriksen - I shudder to think what we'd be without him. More of the same from him. 61 passes and two assists, one superb one.

Kane - If Janssen had a game like this it would be "we've got to sign a striker who can do the business in games like this". He worked hard enough, was unlucky not to score, but it was the type of performance I've seen Janssen emulate and bring howls of derision. He was OK. Needed to get his head up a couple of times.

 

[DCSPUR]

The Ghost AVB Past

That was a carbon copy of many performances last season (Everton in last season's opener springs to mind. Very reminiscent of AVB's season where we would be very, very methodical, lots of possession, little tempo or wit, until Bale did something special, for Bale supplant Alli today.

For me, the next natural evolution for Poch is to manage to introduce more energy and bravery into our midfield, bringing with it some much needed tempo, incision and risk, but manage to coach that into the system, keeping cohesion and defensive discipline. I don't mean full Guardiola, or even full Klopp, all out blitz, but the balance has to shift a little away from the enormously risk averse 2 from 3 of Dembele, Wanyama and Dier, toward one of those (preferably Wanyama) and a more metronomic quick thinking, dynamic option. Or give the one formation he hasn't tried yet, 433 a go.

It was like the season had never ended really, lots of the same good and bad from last season. I know a reasonably unambitious bus park can stifle and be hard to get behind, but Dier and Dembele just does not help and is an unnecessary doubling-up of risk averse cautiousness. The passing goes to the safest option, in Dembele's case often after several touches. Alli was fucking atrocious apart from the goal, which showed his trade mark clever movement and good finish. I just do not buy the whole "it's the sloppy crap that makes him who he is" bollocks. I really can't see an uber club tolerating 80% of what he does, unless they convert to an all out second striker role, which is pretty much what he is for us most of the time effectively.

Eriksen was, as he often is, the real difference maker, 61 passes is great for an AM, but he manages to include the most sublime pass of the game in that tally, which opened up the obdurate defence that had become even less ambitious down to ten men. As he mostly is, our MOTM.

KWP had a very competent debut, there's more to come from this kid in an attacking and play game play sense, but as a debut, this was pretty much foot perfect, defensively sound and offensively supportive, stuck in a couple of decent crosses too and if our CM's could bypass A and go straight to option B, we might have seen more of him offensively as he was constantly in acres of space second half.

Individual

Lloris - Par

KWP - Very good debut.

Alderweireld - OK

Vertonghen - OK

Davies - Took his goal well, apart from that pretty standard.

Dier - Did a lot of pointing. There were times when people were looking for an out ball and he'd just be standing there. Pointing.

Dembele - Twisted and turned a bit.

Sissoko - We need to get him out of the shop window, it's killing his price.

Alli - fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, goal, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, subbed out.

Eriksen - I shudder to think what we'd be without him. More of the same from him. 61 passes and two assists, one superb one.

Kane - If Janssen had a game like this it would be "we've got to sign a striker who can do the business in games like this". He worked hard enough, was unlucky not to score, but it was the type of performance I've seen Janssen emulate and bring howls of derision. He was OK. Needed to get his head up a couple of times.

"it was like last season never ended" is your quote....top scorers is an awful lot better than the AVB era

 

[jonathanhotspur]

The Ghost AVB Past

That was a carbon copy of many performances last season (Everton in last season's opener springs to mind. Very reminiscent of AVB's season where we would be very, very methodical, lots of possession, little tempo or wit, until Bale did something special, for Bale supplant Alli today.

For me, the next natural evolution for Poch is to manage to introduce more energy and bravery into our midfield, bringing with it some much needed tempo, incision and risk, but manage to coach that into the system, keeping cohesion and defensive discipline. I don't mean full Guardiola, or even full Klopp, all out blitz, but the balance has to shift a little away from the enormously risk averse 2 from 3 of Dembele, Wanyama and Dier, toward one of those (preferably Wanyama) and a more metronomic quick thinking, dynamic option. Or give the one formation he hasn't tried yet, 433 a go.

It was like the season had never ended really, lots of the same good and bad from last season. I know a reasonably unambitious bus park can stifle and be hard to get behind, but Dier and Dembele just does not help and is an unnecessary doubling-up of risk averse cautiousness. The passing goes to the safest option, in Dembele's case often after several touches. Alli was fucking atrocious apart from the goal, which showed his trade mark clever movement and good finish. I just do not buy the whole "it's the sloppy crap that makes him who he is" bollocks. I really can't see an uber club tolerating 80% of what he does, unless they convert to an all out second striker role, which is pretty much what he is for us most of the time effectively.

Eriksen was, as he often is, the real difference maker, 61 passes is great for an AM, but he manages to include the most sublime pass of the game in that tally, which opened up the obdurate defence that had become even less ambitious down to ten men. As he mostly is, our MOTM.

KWP had a very competent debut, there's more to come from this kid in an attacking and play game play sense, but as a debut, this was pretty much foot perfect, defensively sound and offensively supportive, stuck in a couple of decent crosses too and if our CM's could bypass A and go straight to option B, we might have seen more of him offensively as he was constantly in acres of space second half.

Individual

Lloris - Par

KWP - Very good debut.

Alderweireld - OK

Vertonghen - OK

Davies - Took his goal well, apart from that pretty standard.

Dier - Did a lot of pointing. There were times when people were looking for an out ball and he'd just be standing there. Pointing.

Dembele - Twisted and turned a bit.

Sissoko - We need to get him out of the shop window, it's killing his price.

Alli - fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, goal, fumble, fritter, bumble, tumble, subbed out.

Eriksen - I shudder to think what we'd be without him. More of the same from him. 61 passes and two assists, one superb one.

Kane - If Janssen had a game like this it would be "we've got to sign a striker who can do the business in games like this". He worked hard enough, was unlucky not to score, but it was the type of performance I've seen Janssen emulate and bring howls of derision. He was OK. Needed to get his head up a couple of times.

I was all set to agree with you until the old guff about Janssen. Guff.