Ratings vs Palace

MOM

  • Lloris

  • Dier

  • Fazio

  • Verts

  • Davies

  • Lamela

  • Bentaleb

  • Mason

  • Eriksen

  • Kane

  • Soldado

  • Chadli

  • Paulinho

  • Lennon

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Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't one of Lennon's two assists the three yard tap sideways to Eriksen before he then hit a worldie from outside the box against Hull ?
Yes.

Since when has Lennon ever been our salvation ?
I don't think he is.

I'd rather watch Lamela frustrate for the rest of the season on the off chance he may just end up being something decent, because I sure as shit know Lennon never will be and I'm much more interested in the the possibility of something that could be good than the certainty of something that isn't.
At the moment, Lamela is frustrating so there is much of a muchness.

I'm pretty sure Lamela will not be the messiah either, but I'm sure he can be more use to us than Lennon.
Hopefully he will be but he's making heavy weather of it.

He loses it less than Mason.
Are you just looking at pass completion stats for that information, BC?
 
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It is a strange one, we often hear how Lamela loses the ball with such regularity and it is the impression many get when watching him, but the statistics don't often back that up.
Didn't you say on the Lamela thread that you were going to take a break from defending him?

I don't think it's so much Lamela losing the ball when he attempts to pass it that frustrates. For me it's more his tendency to just constantly run into defenders and give it away that's the problem. Do the stats reflect that?
No, they do not.
 

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Didn't you say on the Lamela thread that you were going to take a break from defending him?
I was saying that, because you get so many posters who can't see past their own view and don't acknowledge anything that may go against the negativity.

But then you realise there is some unsubstantiated nonsense being thrown around and I get dragged in to tempering the negativity again...
 
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I was saying that, because you get so many posters who can't see past their own view and don't acknowledge anything that may go against the negativity.

But then you realise there is some unsubstantiated nonsense being thrown around and I get dragged in to tempering the negativity again...
Lamela was my MOM against Partizan. Check out the match ratings thread.

So you're being dragged back in? Ok, just wondering.
 

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Lamela was my MOM against Partizan. Check out the match ratings thread.

So you're being dragged back in? Ok, just wondering.
I wasn't aiming the post at just you to be fair, you were just questioning my motivations of my 'Lamela defense', so I explained...
 

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You know it's not a good game when you don't even bother watching the stream of the second half and would rather watch Final Score... We were so awful in the first 45 I couldn't bring myself to suffer the second (I was actually convinced Palace would get a goal in the second half, and if they got one, then get a second on the counter as we shambled forwards in search of an equalizer, nice to be wrong).

When was the last time we kept a clean sheet in the PL?
 

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You know it's not a good game when you don't even bother watching the stream of the second half and would rather watch Final Score... We were so awful in the first 45 I couldn't bring myself to suffer the second (I was actually convinced Palace would get a goal in the second half, and if they got one, then get a second on the counter as we shambled forwards in search of an equalizer, nice to be wrong).

When was the last time we kept a clean sheet in the PL?
Um...against Palace..?

;)
 

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You know it's not a good game when you don't even bother watching the stream of the second half and would rather watch Final Score... We were so awful in the first 45 I couldn't bring myself to suffer the second (I was actually convinced Palace would get a goal in the second half, and if they got one, then get a second on the counter as we shambled forwards in search of an equalizer, nice to be wrong).

When was the last time we kept a clean sheet in the PL?
You made a good decision, because we were even worse in the second half with two pointless substitutions and a few more lucky escapes. Worryingly, we looked as clueless and as devoid of a plan as we were in any of the performances under Sherwood.
 
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Some posters just look for the negatives.
There not interested in the positives.
There agenda driven and make outlandish claims that are quite frankly BS.
Over the last few games he's been in poor form.
But to say he's been useless through the season is absolutely crap.
I know who these posters are because you get neg repped and no debate on what Lamela actually did in the game.
He was useless and that's it.
When you point to positive parts he played these posters vanish or neg rep.
He gave the ball away 100 times, really?
And get a winner rating, what game were they watching?
Do they actually realise he gave the ball less than some of his team mates?
As said by another poster, your stats to do not show the umpteen times Lamela runs into defenders, that is not reflected in passing stats is it?

100 times was not meant literally (although probably not far off tbh)
 

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Fair enough, he did get dispossed 3 times while dribbling. Less than Bentaleb against Palace surprisingly (admittedly the sample sizes are differing).

His pass completion was also comparable to Eriksen and better than Kanes, the other plays in his sort of position.

This is just one game, and he wasn't great, I just don't always understand the levels of negativity/criticism.
 

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As said by another poster, your stats to do not show the umpteen times Lamela runs into defenders, that is not reflected in passing stats is it?

100 times was not meant literally (although probably not far off tbh)
Got anything to back that up.
Or are you just following what others have said?
 

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It's like a Dos Santos thread from a few years back in here.
Again though, like the comparisons with Taraabt, the big difference there is that there were big attitude/behaviour flaws. I really get the impression that Lamela doesn't share those poor qualities-which gives me more hope he can realise his potential.
 

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Fair enough, he did get dispossed 3 times while dribbling. Less than Bentaleb against Palace surprisingly (admittedly the sample sizes are differing).

His pass completion was also comparable to Eriksen and better than Kanes, the other plays in his sort of position.

This is just one game, and he wasn't great, I just don't always understand the levels of negativity/criticism.
same reason townsend gets it, currently they're both frustrating and unproductive.
 

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For people who are starting to think Lennon is going to be our saviour this season, I think you may be disappointed.
 

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No ratings as I didn't see the game, but some general concerns:

Sherwood got one thing right:
At home VS "poor" teams we need to play with width! It is too easy to defend against our narrow approach.

Rotation:
I feel Poch failed on Wednesday. One thing is for sure - Chelsea are a better team than us. This means we have to out-do them on other levels. On Wednesday we could have fielded a fresh team with almost the same quality as we have a big squad with almost everyone on the same level. In that way, we could gotten something from Chelsea, and we would have a fresh team VS Crystal Palace as well.


Other than that it is still happy times! This is not our season - We need this season as a(nother) transitional season. We have a young team and Pochettino will get things right!
 
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