Ratings vs Palace

Discussion in 'Match Ratings Archive' started by Bulletspur, Dec 6, 2014.

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  1. Lloris

  2. Dier

  3. Fazio

  4. Verts

  5. Davies

  6. Lamela

  7. Bentaleb

  8. Mason

  9. Eriksen

  10. Kane

  11. Soldado

  12. Chadli

  13. Paulinho

  14. Lennon

  15. Undecided

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  1. Blake Griffin

    Blake Griffin Well-Known Member

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    wish people would stop using this strawman line, who has implied lennon is our saviour? maybe some of us just feel that currently he gives the team better balance and allows us to function a little more fluidly? lennon has come in and done well, what he did last season or the previous five years are irrelevant if he's helping us now.
     
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  2. davidmatzdorf

    davidmatzdorf Front Page Gadfly

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    He didn't 'give the ball away' by passing inaccurately. He gave the ball away - multiple times - by being caught in possession or losing control during an attempted dribble. Mason and Bentaleb were also caught in possession - pressing high and trying to win the ball was clearly Plan A for Palace - but not as often or in as alarming locations as Lamela. He had a stinker of a half and that's why he was substituted.
     
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  3. Chris12

    Chris12 Well-Known Member

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    At he moment he is playing better than few others and has assisted the team in playing well, but the way people are going on about him at the moment it seems as though they think he should be undroppable and will help kick-start the season. People seem to be exaggerating, and that's my point. I'm not deny that at the moment he is playing well and offering us another outlet.
     
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  4. Mr Pink

    Mr Pink SC Supporter

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    I'm not ignoring anything, I'm looking at how we perform as an attacking collective with and without him. I think without him, we struggle a lot of the time because we've so little pace in the side.

    That's your prerogative to disagree, of course, but I think you underestimate the impact his pace/threat carries for our overall attacking play.

    He can be frustrating, from an individual point of view, I totally get that but, for me, others benefit when he plays because he simply creates space and the team is a hell of a lot more balanced.
     
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  5. Dean

    Dean Active Member

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    So, who thinks Bolasie would do us nicely in Jan?
     
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  6. jezz

    jezz Well-Known Member

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    3 times dribbling.
    Yes he played badly, but he wasn't the only one.
    But he also had some good passages of play.
    Saying he didn't do anything all game is untrue.
     
  7. HoltbiusMac

    HoltbiusMac ScroobiusMac

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    Replacing Lamela and Lennon with Bolasie because they are too trick reliant/unproductive would be pretty hilarious.
     
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  8. Dean

    Dean Active Member

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    It's not about the tricks. He produced something after the tricks. Something our wide men - Lamela included - are lacking.
     
  9. HoltbiusMac

    HoltbiusMac ScroobiusMac

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    What did he produce? Because it wasn't a goal.
     
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  10. Dean

    Dean Active Member

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    Was I at a different game or what? Are you trying to tell me that he wasn't a constant threat to us? Jesus.
     
  11. jezz

    jezz Well-Known Member

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    They are creating unfortunately were not finishing these chances.
     
  12. HoltbiusMac

    HoltbiusMac ScroobiusMac

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    No I'm saying thats not what productivity is. I've watched plenty of Bolasie, he looks great but doesn't contribute anywhere near enough in terms of goals and assists. He essentially looks much better than he is useful in terms of winning football matches.
     
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  13. Dean

    Dean Active Member

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    I don't think we're creating nearly enough. Especially down our left. On paper, we should be beating the likes of Palace. We were undone more than once by Bolasie and if their forwards were on form or had more luck, we would have lost.
     
  14. jezz

    jezz Well-Known Member

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    You don't win anything on paper.
    You win by scoring goals.
    We've had enough chances to punish teams.
    We are weak in front of goal.
    Love Soldado, Kane not much fussed about Ade, but all 3 have been weak in front of goal.
     
  15. Dean

    Dean Active Member

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    I agree about the strikers - you couldn't but agree. But I think we've been devoid of ideas for most of the season. But I'm trying to be patient despite the onset of boredom at most matches.
     
  16. Time for Heroes

    Time for Heroes Active Member

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    Did you see how many chances Palace had?

    I mean seriously come on now.
     
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  17. jezz

    jezz Well-Known Member

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    What's that got to do with us scoring?
     
  18. Chris12

    Chris12 Well-Known Member

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    Bolasie would be an awful acquisition. He is just as unreliable as Lennon and Lamela and he literally has no end product. Any other place in the positions that he was against us would've bagged a hattrick
     
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  19. JamieSpursCommunityUser

    JamieSpursCommunityUser Well-Known Member

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    Tend to agree that one natural winger makes us more balanced at the moment.

    We're so narrow and slow across the front 4 otherwise.

    Lennon is far from ideal, but solves a lot of short term problems.
     
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  20. Bus-Conductor

    Bus-Conductor SC Supporter

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    Yeah, I'm under estimating Lennon's influence. That's probably because I've only had 9 years of it to go on.

    This is like Huddlestone, and his influence (effluence ?), all over again. You'll be telling me we're missing him (a la Merson on Soccer Saturday) next.
     
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