Match Ratings Ratings vs Wolves

[DannyNZ]

Look, I appreciate that I’m fighting a fight that I’m never going to win because the urge to put the boot into Trippier is so ingrained and strong, so I’ll just say this before I withdraw gracefully to tend my collection of Razzle magazines.

However the ball arrives anywhere, Foyth still had the opportunity to put in a good challenge. He didn’t. Twice. Facts. Rafastyle. Anything else is just a fetish for Trippier bashing. He had a poor game? Fine. The penalties were his fault? No.

Had the roles been reversed the ritual Trippier bashfest would have gone into a frenzied overdrive. And we all know it.

Not sure there is any Trippier bashfest he was undoubtedly poor and this is becoming too frequently the norm on the defensive front for him.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

Not sure there is any Trippier bashfest he was undoubtedly poor and this is becoming too frequently the norm on the defensive front for him.

Try again. Read my post and digest it. You obviously didn’t the first time.

 

[Mr Pink]

The problem with Trippier is that he isn't a great defender. He's fantastic going forward but defending he struggles with, time and time again.

And the problem is a full back should be able to defend competently first and foremost.

Nevermind the build up to the first penalty, he gets exposed week in week out down his side of the pitch.

He can't cope with any sort of pace and doesn't have the defensive intelligence/instincts to compensate. He's got a brain with the ball at his feet but trying to defend he does not.

When we're really dominating against a lower quality side he's a huge asset because we're doing a lot more attacking than defending. Any half decent side though exposes him, and if I were an opposition manage I know where I would be targeting.

Simply put, he can't be a long term option for us in this positon.

 

[Trees]

The problem with Trippier is that he isn't a great defender. He's fantastic going forward but defending he struggles with, time and time again.

And the problem is a full back should be able to defend competently first and foremost.

Nevermind the build up to the first penalty, he gets exposed week in week out down his side of the pitch.

He can't cope with any sort of pace and doesn't have the defensive intelligence/instincts to compensate. He's got a brain with the ball at his feet but trying to defend he does not.

When we're really dominating against a lower quality side he's a huge asset because we're doing a lot more attacking than defending. Any half decent side though exposes him, and if I were an opposition manage I know where I would be targeting.

Simply put, he can't be a long term option for us in this positon.

I love Trips. However this is a very fair assessment.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

The problem with Trippier is that he isn't a great defender. He's fantastic going forward but defending he struggles with, time and time again.

And the problem is a full back should be able to defend competently first and foremost.

Nevermind the build up to the first penalty, he gets exposed week in week out down his side of the pitch.

He can't cope with any sort of pace and doesn't have the defensive intelligence/instincts to compensate. He's got a brain with the ball at his feet but trying to defend he does not.

When we're really dominating against a lower quality side he's a huge asset because we're doing a lot more attacking than defending. Any half decent side though exposes him, and if I were an opposition manage I know where I would be targeting.

Simply put, he can't be a long term option for us in this positon.

Put far better than I did.

In the 1990s Trippier would have been the ‘tucked in’ wide midfielder in a 4 man midfield who’s job was to receive the ball, put crosses in as quickly as possible, and keep his position and discipline. A Beckham/ Parlour/ Gamst-Pedersen. In fact, if we used him like this now we might get more out of him. As a full back though, we are seeing him being dismantled every weak lately and perhaps it’s time to give a go to Aurier, who has been fit for about 4 weeks now and actually played very well pre injury.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Hugo MOTM

We saw the full spectrum of Lamela tonight. Some brilliant, some good, some hairbrain and some stupid. But all with great energy and work rate as per usual. Got to love him

There is a big problem with this team though.
We are in complete control of many games cruising to victory when someone does something stupid or we concede a wonder goal and suddenly from nowhere we are hanging on for dear life !!

This side has never been able to see a game out properly or comfortable when its come under any type of pressure

I don’t think you win anything unless you can do that and our manager needs to take some responsibility in not having installed that in his side after this long in charge

I love Poch but if he wants to win something his teams need to see games out better

 

[Mr Pink]

Put far better than I did.

In the 1990s Trippier would have been the ‘tucked in’ wide midfielder in a 4 man midfield who’s job was to receive the ball, put crosses in as quickly as possible, and keep his position and discipline. A Beckham/ Parlour/ Gamst-Pedersen. In fact, if we used him like this now we might get more out of him. As a full back though, we are seeing him being dismantled every weak lately and perhaps it’s time to give a go to Aurier, who has been fit for about 4 weeks now and actually played very well pre injury.

Yes totally agree mate.

 

[Trees]

LLoris made that top save, never seen him get near a penalty. 7
Davies, solid enough defensively and some good passes between the lines, left really isolated 2-1 at times by Son. 6
Trippier. Believing the hype, shouting at others, when he's to blame, misjudging flights of balls, letting things bounce when he shouldn't, letting men run off him for 1 on 1's, nutmegging attackers when last man, another error strewn performance. 3
Toby, Not ideal at LCB, just looks uncomfortable, although having to cover across at LB when Son couldn't be bothered to do his defensive duty didn't help. 6
Foyth. Keen to impress, started well, with a smashing ball into Lamela taking two men out of the game. makes the odd rash call after errors in distribution but i hope he can learn from the game. Confidence seemed a bit knocked at the end but the defence were playing 'shit yourself' by then. 5.5
Winks, substitution of Dembele left him covering a lot of ground on his own, decent enough in possession but got a bit ragged at the end (didn't everyone) 6.5
Sissoko. More of a typical Sissoko Spurs performance, making bad decisions in possession and passing behind or in front of players or too soft/hard. 5
Lamela. A bit hit and miss today, receiving the ball in certain ares where he doesn't have a picture in his head he seems to freeze and just lose the ball, but other times when he knows what he wants to do or can isolate a man is where he shines. Did well to take Son's pass to Tripper on his chest and use his mythical right foot to score. Also harried to start the move for the second goal. 7.

Dembele. NET
Son. Not great for me, too many occasions where he found himself in a good position to counter and just did nothing, and passed a short ball sideways killing the move. Pretty sure the pass for Lamela's goal was also mean't for Trippier, if not it was terribly weighted. Also left Davies isolated 2 on 1 a lot. 5.5
Moura, seemed more reserved today, wasn't his usual blood and thunder display, not a bad thing as he sometimes tries to do everything too fast and his quality suffers for it. a few nice dribbles and the good header for the goal (Gary Neville didn't think he could head the ball and he's a paid pundit ) 6.5

Kane, Still looks like he's running in treacle, his footwork is so slow ATM.never fast but at this level a little drop makes a massive difference, still worked for the team ad had a few nice efforts, and scored but not the same player at present. 6

Eriksen, did he come on? /10

Sanchez, took too long to getup to speed in the game, and contributed to the state of panic in the defence, settled towards the end though NET

Poch, the formation was screwed leaving so much space in the middle and on the wings. Winks needed help in there as did Davies. Looked lived at times (mainly after Trippier's nutmeg)

What does NET mean ?

 

[Mr Pink]

What does NET mean ?

Not enough time... To rate?

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

The whole team barring a couple of players, capitulated in the second half.

For me, it's all about the middle of the pitch. We don't dominate there and it leads to teams walking through us. The wolves cm aren't exactly world beaters.

Winks had a Decent game. But without a proper ball winner or 2 along side, we are easy fodder without possession. We used to be formidable there.

Trippier isn't to blame for the teams failings. But he was poor defensively. But also set up a lovely goal. He didn't give away 2 penalties. Doesn't mean I think he shouldn't be dropped for a bit though.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

What does NET mean ?

It means he was the best player on the pitch for the first 2 mins

In fact he had more touches yesterday in 2mins than he had in the first 30mins v Man City last week!!

Whatever that tells us about Mousa these days...

 

[stevenurse]

We need to get out shit together defensively. Couple of seasons ago when we were either blowing teams away, or keeping it tight at the back it was fine, but now we're doing neither and against a team like (dare I say it) arsenal, we'll get hammered

 

[Hakkz]

Lloris really solid. The defense was shaky as fuck, especially on the right side. Feel sorry for Foyth, however it's a learning curve. Really good midfield performance. Attackers looked good, happy to see Kane take a couple of shots from outside the box too.

I love Lamela so so much...

 

[piedpiper]

Worrying that SC is finding a way to absolve Foyth and hang the blame for the penalties on Trippier, the de rigueur scapegoat. He didn’t have the best of games to be sure but whatever, he didn’t make two poor challenges and he certainly didn’t have an arm up Foyth’s arse compelling him to such.

When Lloris got sent off in Eindhoven we didn’t see Eriksen blamed by many for the mistakes preceding the event and when we conceded the equaliser guess which scapegoat of choice got the blame for that too. It’s an outright poor trend.

I think many a balanced poster will give Foyth some leeway due to his limited game time and a more experienced player would not get that amount of latitude. Up to that point barring his positional play he did okay. Had Trippier not been so idiotic in that moment we would be raving about Foyth and what an outstanding debut he was having.

I did think Eriksen was at fault in the PSV game though and he placed unnecessary pressure on Hugo.

 

[Hakkz]

The problem with Trippier is that he isn't a great defender. He's fantastic going forward but defending he struggles with, time and time again.

And the problem is a full back should be able to defend competently first and foremost.

Nevermind the build up to the first penalty, he gets exposed week in week out down his side of the pitch.

He can't cope with any sort of pace and doesn't have the defensive intelligence/instincts to compensate. He's got a brain with the ball at his feet but trying to defend he does not.

When we're really dominating against a lower quality side he's a huge asset because we're doing a lot more attacking than defending. Any half decent side though exposes him, and if I were an opposition manage I know where I would be targeting.

Simply put, he can't be a long term option for us in this positon.

He should be playing as a right midfielder, not a defender.

 

[davidmatzdorf]

The whole team barring a couple of players, capitulated in the second half.

For me, it's all about the middle of the pitch. We don't dominate there and it leads to teams walking through us. The wolves cm aren't exactly world beaters.

Winks had a Decent game. But without a proper ball winner or 2 along side, we are easy fodder without possession. We used to be formidable there.

Trippier isn't to blame for the teams failings. But he was poor defensively. But also set up a lovely goal. He didn't give away 2 penalties. Doesn't mean I think he shouldn't be dropped for a bit though.

It's not madly surprising that we didn't dominate the middle of the pitch when all three of our holding midfielders are injured: Dier, Wanyama & Dembélé. Sissoko is basically a CM, but prefers to be the end-to-end type, using his propensity to run with the ball. Winks can be a distributive, Carrick-type midfielder, but his creative responsibilities, especially with Eriksen not in the side, mean that he can't hold the positional discipline required of a holding midfielder - neither does he have the physique for it, compared to the three injured players.

It's been clear from soon after his arrival that Trippier is at his best as a wing-back, playing alongside and mainly ahead of a back three, with his average position 10m higher than a speedy, Walker-style fullback would adopt. It's taken Aurier time to get a grip on his role and we have rarely been able to field a side with three fit central defenders, so Trippier has had to play in sides that place a strain on his defensive abilities, mainly his lack of pace. He still creates a hell of a lot of chances for us, probably as many as his defensive weaknesses concede.

 

[felmani26]

Foyth has certainly got something about him and undoubtedly he should feature more going forward but honestly, when i'm reading he's not at fault for either penalty and yet it's literally all put at Trippier's feet I despair.

Tripps has been well below par this season defensively but I find it funny how so many omit what a peach of a delivery his cross was to Moura's head - won't be finding those fucking crosses from Aurier that's for sure!

Ultimately, I still believe KWP has the potential to be better than both Trippier and Aurier but yes it would appear Trippier is most definitely persona non grata as far as SC's residents are now concerned - gives Sissoko a break anyway...

 

[Lighty64]

You know Lighty i would never have suspected all of the challenges you experiencing.. Its because of your positive disposition. I've watched you debate many posters on varying aspects of our play, squad depth, TW shambles, stadium delays, Enic & Levy and in all of those threads you remain positive an BELIEVE in good.

You'll get through the health issues with your fighting spirit.

Im sorry those things are happening. Life just keeps coming at us.

it's the joys of getting older, though I've been disabled all my life which is something I've got used to, but also the death side due to my mum at an early age, so I suppose I struggle with moaning for petty things

apologies and promise I won't bring the personal in anything again

 

[Lighty64]

Oh absolutely Eriksen was to blame, and he too has been atrocious this season. I’m not scapegoating Trippier, ultimately there is little to scapegoat him for as we’ve won most matches, but to say he’s been anything other than abysmal this season, I won’t do it. Considering the pelters Harry is getting despite scoring 1 in 2, and Lloris despite the fact that he still saves us regularly, and Dele despite the impact he has every time he plays, Trippier is getting off lightly. If two high profile mistakes (you can’t say the first wasn’t, he tried to nutmeg as the last man) in two consecutive league matches both costing goals doesn’t open the door for Aurier v Palace then something is very wrong.

but you know Poch rotates when we play twice a week, Aurier will play the midweek games between now and mid January, and Trippier will play the weekends unless an injury occurs

 

[Shadydan]

Foyth has certainly got something about him and undoubtedly he should feature more going forward but honestly, when i'm reading he's not at fault for either penalty and yet it's literally all put at Trippier's feet I despair.

Tripps has been well below par this season defensively but I find it funny how so many omit what a peach of a delivery his cross was to Moura's head - won't be finding those fucking crosses from Aurier that's for sure!

Ultimately, I still believe KWP has the potential to be better than both Trippier and Aurier but yes it would appear Trippier is most definitely persona non grata as far as SC's residents are now concerned - gives Sissoko a break anyway...

Didn't Aurier produce a cross like that against Newcastle?