Match Ratings Ratings vs Wolves

[Lighty64]

Look, I appreciate that I’m fighting a fight that I’m never going to win because the urge to put the boot into Trippier is so ingrained and strong, so I’ll just say this before I withdraw gracefully to tend my collection of Razzle magazines.

However the ball arrives anywhere, Foyth still had the opportunity to put in a good challenge. He didn’t. Twice. Facts. Rafastyle. Anything else is just a fetish for Trippier bashing. He had a poor game? Fine. The penalties were his fault? No.

Had the roles been reversed the ritual Trippier bashfest would have gone into a frenzied overdrive. And we all know it.

I bet the match thread was fun I don't even consider going in there especially if Trippiers on the team sheet, oh wait, I have never gone in there because it's pointless commenting on 1 thing for the then said player to become a hero which obviously will never be Trippier

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

It's not madly surprising that we didn't dominate the middle of the pitch when all three of our holding midfielders are injured: Dier, Wanyama & Dembélé. Sissoko is basically a CM, but prefers to be the end-to-end type, using his propensity to run with the ball. Winks can be a distributive, Carrick-type midfielder, but his creative responsibilities, especially with Eriksen not in the side, mean that he can't hold the positional discipline required of a holding midfielder - neither does he have the physique for it, compared to the three injured players.

It's been clear from soon after his arrival that Trippier is at his best as a wing-back, playing alongside and mainly ahead of a back three, with his average position 10m higher than a speedy, Walker-style fullback would adopt. It's taken Aurier time to get a grip on his role and we have rarely been able to field a side with three fit central defenders, so Trippier has had to play in sides that place a strain on his defensive abilities, mainly his lack of pace. He still creates a hell of a lot of chances for us, probably as many as his defensive weaknesses concede.

Well put. The cm for me though, even when Pochettino had all the players to choose from has still been below par. As a result of numerous things, injuries / wc and form etc.

For me, its the reason we haven't reached our playing potential yet. The engine room of the team needs oiling.(Although we still sit pretty in the table).

If the cm doesn't do it's job, in creating and shielding, it takes away from the sum of the parts and pulls players elsewhere out of position, makes them cover etc.

A fully fit and in form Wanyama against a back 5, would transform this side. Sadly he looks a long way off top speed. I also think poch, should consider a cm3 when he has the available personnel more.

The positive thing is, the cm has looked better since Winks is finding form again and it can only get better. (Got that song in my head now... thiiings, can only get, they can only get, better!)

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I actually think that we need to keep playing Winks, it’s the only way he’ll improve at this point, so I would always have him plus 1. I actually think that if you put him in a 3 with Dele and Eriksen, with him the one who moved deepest, Dele using his athleticism to play box to box, and Eriksen playing with a free role, a lot of thus issue would be eroded as even though in theory we’d be got at out of possession, we should be out of possession so rarely that it doesn’t overly matter.

 

[Spurs 1961]

Loris motm for me as he kept us in the game. Lamela ran him close being involved in every goal. Two very brave players

 

[A.J.]

The second penalty was rash and naive from Foyth, but it was still the millionth attack down Trippier’s side, and came about through a combo of winks hitting a bad pass and Trippier being lazy. Kid did badly though no doubt.

In that case, shouldn't the Manager have taken steps to address that as the game unfolded?

 

[cliff jones]

Winks needs a sitting heavyweight alongside him- he's just no barrier at all. This will allow him to spray his magnificent range of square passes to the full backs. Or burst through then sh*t himself and, er, pass to the full backs.

I get the love for him, and all youth breakthroughs, and would love to be proved wrong, but most of you suggesting he's finding form or he's first XI are watching through rose tinted specs. Don't delude yourselves. Now, that Wolves youth CM who came on and made Winks look silly, there's a player... prepare that £3m bid Daniel!

 

[SpursSince1980]

Hugo MOTM

We saw the full spectrum of Lamela tonight. Some brilliant, some good, some hairbrain and some stupid. But all with great energy and work rate as per usual. Got to love him

There is a big problem with this team though.
We are in complete control of many games cruising to victory when someone does something stupid or we concede a wonder goal and suddenly from nowhere we are hanging on for dear life !!

This side has never been able to see a game out properly or comfortable when its come under any type of pressure

I don’t think you win anything unless you can do that and our manager needs to take some responsibility in not having installed that in his side after this long in charge

I love Poch but if he wants to win something his teams need to see games out better

I agree. There has to come a point when he stops blaming the players for not being 'brave' enough to finish out games and instead take a look at himself and figure out what can he alter tactically and strategically with his players that will address these problems. I go back to Fergie's days at UTD.... Those players were clearly coached to go for the jugular if you get in front of a team. That was ingrained into their players, no matter if they were from their academy of acquisitions. Both he and the players need to be aligned on this approach. At the moment something isn't quite clicking.

 

[Timberwolf]

Winks needs a sitting heavyweight alongside him- he's just no barrier at all. This will allow him to spray his magnificent range of square passes to the full backs. Or burst through then sh*t himself and, er, pass to the full backs.

I get the love for him, and all youth breakthroughs, and would love to be proved wrong, but most of you suggesting he's finding form or he's first XI are watching through rose tinted specs. Don't delude yourselves. Now, that Wolves youth CM who came on and made Winks look silly, there's a player... prepare that £3m bid Daniel!

I think that's harsh on Winks. He didn't have a great game vs Wolves but he was sensational when he came on against City last week and proved his quality last season in big games against the likes of Madrid. He's inconsistent and I agree that he could really use an experienced head or a brick shithouse alongside him, but he's also only 22 and is coming back from a long layoff.

https://www.givemesport.com/1410055...essive-performance-vs-manchester-city-emerges

I fail to see how anyone can watch his highlights vs City and not see the exceptional talent. He does a lot more than square passes and run down blind alleys.

 

[cliff jones]

I think that's harsh on Winks. He didn't have a great game vs Wolves but he was sensational when he came on against City last week and proved his quality last season in big games against the likes of Madrid. He's inconsistent and I agree that he could really use an experienced head or a brick shithouse alongside him, but he's also only 22 and is coming back from a long layoff.

https://www.givemesport.com/1410055...essive-performance-vs-manchester-city-emerges

I fail to see how anyone can watch his highlights vs City and not see the exceptional talent. He does a lot more than square passes and run down blind alleys.

sensational and exceptional- sorry, I don't see that. I can't work out what kind of midfielder he is. But his impact is not high.

 

[DiscoD1882]

Foyth has certainly got something about him and undoubtedly he should feature more going forward but honestly, when i'm reading he's not at fault for either penalty and yet it's literally all put at Trippier's feet I despair.

Tripps has been well below par this season defensively but I find it funny how so many omit what a peach of a delivery his cross was to Moura's head - won't be finding those fucking crosses from Aurier that's for sure!

Ultimately, I still believe KWP has the potential to be better than both Trippier and Aurier but yes it would appear Trippier is most definitely persona non grata as far as SC's residents are now concerned - gives Sissoko a break anyway...

2 mistakes in two will tend to provoke that reaction.

 

[ralvy]

Foyth has certainly got something about him and undoubtedly he should feature more going forward but honestly, when i'm reading he's not at fault for either penalty and yet it's literally all put at Trippier's feet I despair.

Tripps has been well below par this season defensively but I find it funny how so many omit what a peach of a delivery his cross was to Moura's head - won't be finding those fucking crosses from Aurier that's for sure!

Ultimately, I still believe KWP has the potential to be better than both Trippier and Aurier but yes it would appear Trippier is most definitely persona non grata as far as SC's residents are now concerned - gives Sissoko a break anyway...

Aurier also has shown that same ability to put in sweet crosses, it's the reason why he has banged some assist stats. At the end of the day, whoever is the best defender out of the two should be starting most games, as that's the area in which we're suffering the most this season.

Also, whatever potential KWP has, it certainly didn't come to light against West ham.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Aurier also has shown that same ability to put in sweet crosses, it's the reason why he has banged some assist stats. At the end of the day, whoever is the best defender out of the two should be starting most games, as that's the area in which we're suffering the most this season.

Also, whatever potential KWP has, it certainly didn't come to light against West ham.

what assist stats would they be? kwp had as many assists last season as aurier and he only played two games.

 

[ralvy]

what assist stats would they be? kwp had as many assists last season as aurier and he only played two games.

Maybe, but I definitely remember Aurier having some asists from long crosses.

 

[Geyzer Soze]

Lamela MOTM, Tripps the opposite

woman of the match?