Match Ratings Ratings vs Wolves

[Shadydan]

Obviously those games matter. But when we get the chance to put pressure on other teams we rarely do. We put in the hard work but then f it up when it counts.

You mean we lose a game from time to time like most teams do.

Funny you say this because we're knows as the pressure team on social media

 

[Shadydan]

When it counts.

Pretty much before every game for the last two or three months someone, in some thread out another has said something along the lines of "massive game, we must win this". So when we eventually lost it was always going to be a game where it 'counts', I honestly don't feel we've fucked anything up.

It only counts when we lose, obviously.

 

[Paolo10]

Winks made more tackles and interceptions than Sissoko did on Saturday.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

When it counts.

Pretty much before every game for the last two or three months someone, in some thread out another has said something along the lines of "massive game, we must win this". So when we eventually lost it was always going to be a game where it 'counts', I honestly don't feel we've fucked anything up.

Cardiff is the biggest and most crucial game of the year

 

[EastLondonYid]

And here lies part of the reason for the problem for the various reactions. You saw a problem with a credible solution, I saw the same problem also with a possible solution and based on the various posts so did others. The question is why didnt Poch? It would have been a different story if all had been tried but failed, as oppose to not trying.

I agree, but you made a valid point, my problem is with some on here slating Poch and the team with ott comments.
I totally agree Poch should have acted when we looked in trouble, and i don't think he is Pep, Klopp level, but he is growing and learning and i believe will one day, hopefully.
Fergie won nothing the first few years at Utd,

 

[coys200]

Tbh in the bigger picture 3pts against them in 2 games is not a disaster. Liverpool are the only other top 6 to beat them and there’s a very good chance they could end up 7th. There’s also a very good chance if pochettino were to leave that Nuno would be very high on our list. Surprisingly he’s actually younger than poch.

 

[stov]

When it counts.

Pretty much before every game for the last two or three months someone, in some thread out another has said something along the lines of "massive game, we must win this". So when we eventually lost it was always going to be a game where it 'counts', I honestly don't feel we've fucked anything up.

Maybe it's better phrased as we don't make our hard work count. We get into excellent positions and lose a game we could and maybe should win and a lot of the proceeding hard work is lost and we have to start all over.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Tbh in the bigger picture 3pts against them in 2 games is not a disaster. Liverpool are the only other top 6 to beat them and there’s a very good chance they could end up 7th. There’s also a very good chance if pochettino were to leave that Nuno would be very high on our list. Surprisingly he’s actually younger than poch.

Surely Nuno is the new Sean Dyche or Owen Coyle etc etc etc flavour of the hour/day/year

He’s a million miles away from managing a 'Tottenham' at this time in his career

A couple more years in the Prem and throw in some European competition and let’s see how he’s doing...

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

Surely Nuno is the new Sean Dyche or Owen Coyle etc etc etc flavour of the hour/day/year

He’s a million miles away from managing a 'Tottenham' at this time in his career

A couple more years in the Prem and throw in some European competition and let’s see how he’s doing...

Probably what most was saying about Poch tbf

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Maybe it's better phrased as we don't make our hard work count. We get into excellent positions and lose a game we could and maybe should win and a lot of the proceeding hard work is lost and we have to start all over.

We could literally win our next 16 league games on the trot to be 2 points behind the leaders with 2 games left then lose a game to a team outside of the 'big' clubs and people will be queuing up to call us legends or a team that crumbles under pressure

It is nonsense

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Fergie won nothing the first few years at Utd,

This bears absolute no reflection of today's game. The playing field was far more even when Fergie took over at United. There were no teams bankrolled by Middle East states, oligarchs and USA money. City, United, Chelsea and to some degree Arsenal are on another financial level, that even with stadium and other commercial deals this will still be difficult to close the gap based on how we are run and owned.

 

[EastLondonYid]

This bears absolute no reflection of today's game. The playing field was far more even when Fergie took over at United. There were no teams bankrolled by Middle East states, oligarchs and USA money. City, United, Chelsea and to some degree Arsenal are on another financial level, that even with stadium and other commercial deals this will still be difficult to close the gap based on how we are run and owned.

Tell Leicester that.

 

[Shadydan]

We could literally win our next 16 league games on the trot to be 2 points behind the leaders with 2 games left then lose a game to a team outside of the 'big' clubs and people will be queuing up to call us legends or a team that crumbles under pressure

It is nonsense

It happened in 2016/17 when we took 33 points out of 36, we lost 1 game against West Ham and everyone called us bottler, so fucking stupid

 

[coys200]

We should bounce back from this. Better we get swatted now then later in the run in. Some players believing their own press plus complacency.

A paper thin squad ran out of puff and ideas. Having our two regular CMS as crocks on the sidelines does not help. Sissoko needs a break. Winks looks tired. CM was an accident waiting to happen. Tripps is a fucking liability defensively with his groin trouble. Everyone else is carrying long term injuries (Eriksen, Lamela, Vertonhen etc) or is fatigued from the WC. We’ve done brilliantly considering but we haven’t got a 45m pound player we can just throw on from the subs bench like the bin dippers.

Poch has done a good job on a shoe string but it can’t go on forever. I think we need to play a few more academy lads to ease the pressure on the regulars. Our fucking bench looks a joke compared to the Mancs and the Scousers. Even the Blue scum look stronger. Hopefully the lads rest up and re-energise.

Something has to give though. We can’t manage four competitions with this lack of squad depth and Son’s off for a holiday in Asia for 4 weeks as well. Interesting times.

To call our squad paper thin is just ridiculous. At the start of the season if all fit our CM order would probably have been dembele Dier winks wanyama sissoko(with dele eriksen able to drop in)So we’ve lost our 1st 2nd 4th choice for virtually whole of December. Winks and sissoko have had to play every game with no rotation. City are crying cause Fernandinho missed 3 games. We had to play our 6th choice CB for 2 games in Davies who is an international with 43 caps that got to a euro semi final. We won both games and kept a clean sheet. At a guess I’d say all the other top 6 CB 6th choice is probably an academy kid. Our squad is not thin. The only position that it’s obviously weak is a back up to Kane. When you look at the 25 man squad the only 2 you’d obviously replace are llorente and Nkoudou and tbh the Nkoudou slot as a 7th AM/winger is a bit of a luxury slot anyway. Having 5 or 6 out on a regular basis would stretch any squad.

 

[coys200]

Surely Nuno is the new Sean Dyche or Owen Coyle etc etc etc flavour of the hour/day/year

He’s a million miles away from managing a 'Tottenham' at this time in his career

A couple more years in the Prem and throw in some European competition and let’s see how he’s doing...

Nuno is exactly what poch was when we appointed him. Virtually same age and taken a team to next best outside top 6 and playing attractive football. Speaks fantastically seems a very humble gracious man. Is he a flash in the pan who knows. Is pochettino actually capable of winning something who knows. Unless you’re appointing pep as next manager, the majority of managerial appointments are a gamble.

 

[Flashspur]

To call our squad paper thin is just ridiculous. At the start of the season if all fit our CM order would probably have been dembele Dier winks wanyama sissoko(with dele eriksen able to drop in)So we’ve lost our 1st 2nd 4th choice for virtually whole of December. Winks and sissoko have had to play every game with no rotation. City are crying cause Fernandinho missed 3 games. We had to play our 6th choice CB for 2 games in Davies who is an international with 43 caps that got to a euro semi final. We won both games and kept a clean sheet. At a guess I’d say all the other top 6 CB 6th choice is probably an academy kid. Our squad is not thin. The only position that it’s obviously weak is a back up to Kane. When you look at the 25 man squad the only 2 you’d obviously replace are llorente and Nkoudou and tbh the Nkoudou slot as a 7th AM/winger is a bit of a luxury slot anyway. Having 5 or 6 out on a regular basis would stretch any squad.

i talked about it in the context of injuries particularly in CM. We are paper thin my friend, its bleeding obvious when our next CM off the bench is an 18 year old academy player. I haven't got shit for brains. I know when everyone is fit then we have options. Duh!

 

[coys200]

i talked about it in the context of injuries particularly in CM. We are paper thin my friend, its bleeding obvious when our next CM off the bench is an 18 year old academy player. I haven't got shit for brains. I know when everyone is fit then we have options. Duh!

You said “ a paper thin squad” which implies our squad has no depth. If you’d have said a squad down to bare bones then fair enough.

 

[Shadydan]

i talked about it in the context of injuries particularly in CM. We are paper thin my friend, its bleeding obvious when our next CM off the bench is an 18 year old academy player. I haven't got shit for brains. I know when everyone is fit then we have options. Duh!

Well yes generally when teams have 5/6 players out squads tend to be paper thin...

 

[SpursDave88]

It happened in 2016/17 when we took 33 points out of 36, we lost 1 game against West Ham and everyone called us bottler, so fucking stupid

You say that...but obviously for a team to finish above us they had to do that and more.

We are legends because we are the only team with a squad of players capable of competing for trophies that never actually win anything. That tag will rightly stick until we get over the line and win a major trophy.

The issue is that we have never actually gone out and proved the doubters wrong in the final analysis.

When we lift trophy we can stick two fingers up at all the doubters - until then we have to take our medicine.

To be fair I'd rather be up there than irrelevant.

 

[Shadydan]

You say that...but obviously for a team to finish above us they had to do that and more.

We are legends because we are the only team with a squad of players capable of competing for trophies that never actually win anything. That tag will rightly stick until we get over the line and win a major trophy.

The issue is that we have never actually gone out and proved the doubters wrong in the final analysis.

When we lift trophy we can stick two fingers up at all the doubters - until then we have to take our medicine.

To be fair I'd rather be up there than irrelevant.

If we finish 10th and win the Carabao Cup are we still legends?