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Retrospective bans for diving

djw1973

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Well Costa and Hazard are fooked, as is most of the Chav team. It would be interesting to see how the bans are dished out, if fairly at all. Overall, we don't really dive as a team. Only Dele looks for the option to go down, but in most cases he is usually clipped.

I hate how they use Kane as an example. He is not a dirty player at all. Rashford definitely dived, but he is young and is probably just following orders from Mourinho.

The Scum got away with diving for years and the Chavs are building a whole philosophy out of diving. Mane is also fooked as most of his play centers on rolling about the floor. This could affect transfer values and the way teams play.

Good or bad?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fa-set-approve-retrospective-bans-10446906

Edit: now officially approved http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39962886
 
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fletch82

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Good
But knowing our luck the panel will be charlie Nicholas Paul merson and Karen Brady :cautious:
 

Bobbins

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Good in theory but this won't lead to the like of Mane etc being punished any more than they are already - it'll be the small teams who do it who get picked out.
 

yido_number1

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Yeah the media don't seem to get the difference between initiating contact and "going down because he felt a touch" . I can only see this leading to media witch hunts and sky determining which incidents get reviewed. Good news if they find a way to implement it fairly and impartially. Hazard has been falling over far to easily for his whole career and gets the mantra of the most fouled player instead of a simulating cheat.
 

talkshowhost86

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I love how they use Kane as an example and then include a picture CLEARLY showing the contact that made it a foul.

I don't know why I should be surprised but that really is idiotic 'journalism'.

Anyway...I think it's a good idea but they will have to be consistent with how it's implemented otherwise it will lead to all sorts of shenanigoats.
 

fletch82

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I honestly think it can only be proved in cases where there is no contact otherwise sky will pre determine based on who they like/want to win.
 

spursgirls

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Well Costa and Hazard are fooked, as is most of the Chav team. It would be interesting to see how the bans are dished out, if fairly at all. Overall, we don't really dive as a team. Only Dele looks for the option to go down, but in most cases he is usually clipped.

I hate how they use Kane as an example. He is not a dirty player at all. Rashford definitely dived, but he is young and is probably just following orders from Mourinho.

The Scum got away with diving for years and the Chavs are building a whole philosophy out of diving. Mane is also fooked as most of his play centers on rolling about the floor. This could affect transfer values and the way teams play.

Good or bad?

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fa-set-approve-retrospective-bans-10446906
And then show a picture of him clearly being fouled!
 

Dougal

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I know there's an argument that rules you apply in the premier league should also apply all the way down to Sunday league football and there's no way to enforce this throughout the game but I'd be delighted if they set a precedent for behaviour at the top level. I'm incensed when someone does this to us and embarrassed when our own players do it. They're not just cheating the ref, they're cheating the game and the paying supporter.

Just how retrospective can this be? Can they go all the way back to Pires and remove that fake Invincible tag once and for all?
 

djw1973

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I know there's an argument that rules you apply in the premier league should also apply all the way down to Sunday league football and there's no way to enforce this throughout the game but I'd be delighted if they set a precedent for behaviour at the top level. I'm incensed when someone does this to us and embarrassed when our own players do it. They're not just cheating the ref, they're cheating the game and the paying supporter.

Just how retrospective can this be? Can they go all the way back to Pires and remove that fake Invincible tag once and for all?

Pires would have had a life ban for all his dives!
 

THFCjosh

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The only thing is how will this help the team that the player dived against. The result wouldn't change, the player would be punished but the team still would have drawn or won the match
 

djw1973

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TheChosenOne

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The Kane v Arsenal is pathetic.

A much more recent and pertinent dive would have been the Willian simulation in the FA Cup semi final when
Sonny went to ground.
 

Japhet

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Something needs to be done about it. At least the FA are acknowledging the problem and trying to be proactive.
 

Tucker

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Seems like the way to go. It's impossible for the ref to know sometimes, so when it's blatant, a retrospective ban is a great idea.
 

Gb160

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i would imagine we'll only see punishments dished out when its absolutely blatant....and a hell of a lot will be dismissed as inconclusive.
Its a step in the right direction, although why this can't be done on the fly by a ref in a room with a load of screens is beyond me...its not going to change the result if someone takes one for the team in the 91st minute.
 
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