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Mr Pink

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Times are changing though. I know there are many variables that will dictate a players value but leaving age out of it for a second just to illustrate a point...

Shaw has gone for more than Sanchez. That's pretty unbelievable when you actually let that sink in.
 

TheUltimateHotspur

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I think some of you are in for disappointment this summer if you think we will spend big money on any player. Pocho has been brought in to bring through the youngsters, improve players we already have and spot talented players before they cost a bomb.

What money we spend this summer we will get back through player sales one way or another. Just look at our record over recent years, we only spend what we make.

Now the new stadium is going up another gear we will be tighter than ever.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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I think some of you are in for disappointment this summer if you think we will spend big money on any player. Pocho has been brought in to bring through the youngsters, improve players we already have and spot talented players before they cost a bomb.

What money we spend this summer we will get back through player sales one way or another. Just look at our record over recent years, we only spend what we make.

Now the new stadium is going up another gear we will be tighter than ever.
Yes, you are of course correct in general terms, however, I wouldn't put it past them to reserve the opportunity to spend big if the right possibility presented it self. "Spending big" is not necessarily about what one player cost, but about from an overall perspective selling and buying for more or less the same amount of money. Beyond doubt there are funds, for the right opportunity.
 

sammy j

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I think some of you are in for disappointment this summer if you think we will spend big money on any player. Pocho has been brought in to bring through the youngsters, improve players we already have and spot talented players before they cost a bomb.

What money we spend this summer we will get back through player sales one way or another. Just look at our record over recent years, we only spend what we make.

Now the new stadium is going up another gear we will be tighter than ever.


am ok with that to fair
 

Strikeb4ck

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I've been saying (and posted this many times here on SC) since I saw him in FC Zurich's youth setup that he could go on and be one of the best LBs of all time if he stays injury free. He's stuck to that path so far. Phenomenal player. If there's any chance we can get him, we should.
 

Yid

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I've been saying (and posted this many times here on SC) since I saw him in FC Zurich's youth setup that he could go on and be one of the best LBs of all time if he stays injury free. He's stuck to that path so far. Phenomenal player. If there's any chance we can get him, we should.

If life of a Tottenham supporter was so simple, that would be something, wouldn't it?
Just these 3 signings of:

Rodriguez - LB
Schaer - CB
Kono or Griez - LW/LWF

....would solve many of our issues, it seems.

At the end of the day, we don't even need to spend that kind of £. We could get quality players for a lesser amount.
Schaer shouldn't be that expensive, IMO.
Rodriguez and Griez are very much in demand, so the transfer fees would be enormous, but Kono should be available for 12-13 Million £.
So Kono and Schaer should (in theory at least) both be "no-brainer" type deals, AFAIAC.

Even with those two, and settling for Davies at LB, we would address significant issues defensively, and attack-wise.
Oh well, it's all hypothetical anyway. :)
 

Strikeb4ck

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If life of a Tottenham supporter was so simple, that would be something, wouldn't it?
Just these 3 signings of:

Rodriguez - LB
Schaer - CB
Kono or Griez - LW/LWF

....would solve many of our issues, it seems.

At the end of the day, we don't even need to spend that kind of £. We could get quality players for a lesser amount.
Schaer shouldn't be that expensive, IMO.
Rodriguez and Griez are very much in demand, so the transfer fees would be enormous, but Kono should be available for 12-13 Million £.
So Kono and Schaer should (in theory at least) both be "no-brainer" type deals, AFAIAC.

Even with those two, and settling for Davies at LB, we would address significant issues defensively, and attack-wise.
Oh well, it's all hypothetical anyway. :)
I think Schaer would be ~10m at the very most, which is a bargain. Basel aren't good at getting the most for their players considering how many talents they've shipped out...

-Salah - 11m
-Bobadilla - 1m
-Dragovic - 8m
-Shaqiri - 10m
-Xhaka - 7m
-Rakitic - 4m
-Petric - 3m
etc

Konoplyanka has a release clause of 12m, so imagine adding those two for 20m...ridiculous. Then you can go all out on Rodriguez and have a squad that can challenge for the title or add Davies, who isn't quite as good, but solid and HG.
 

jasswolf

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Basel probably have whopping sell-on clauses, which is fair because the Swiss league isn't exactly world class.

Their outgoing players still have a lot to prove when big clubs buy them up.
 

Barry Mead

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I think some of you are in for disappointment this summer if you think we will spend big money on any player. Pocho has been brought in to bring through the youngsters, improve players we already have and spot talented players before they cost a bomb.

What money we spend this summer we will get back through player sales one way or another. Just look at our record over recent years, we only spend what we make.

Now the new stadium is going up another gear we will be tighter than ever.

I disagree, first and foremost Poch has been brought in to get CL football on a regular basis.
He knows that's his bottom line, Levy knows that if he wants to fill a big new stadium he is going to need an attractive team playing at the top level and also he knows that a team playing CL is far more alluring when trying to sell naming rights and other sponsorship and funding
He might get away with not making CL next season but if he doesn't deliver it by the next he'll be going the same way as AVB, Sherwood, Harry, Ramos and Jol, never mind bringing through youngsters and all that other stuff. That was one od the much lauded reasons for AVB coming in too. Lets be quite clear Poch's remit is not to have a good season with a lesser PL club but to push us into regular CL qualification.
If that takes the addition of one or two marquee signings to achieve then that's what he has to demand and Levy has to provide
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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I disagree, first and foremost Poch has been brought in to get CL football on a regular basis.
He knows that's his bottom line, Levy knows that if he wants to fill a big new stadium he is going to need an attractive team playing at the top level and also he knows that a team playing CL is far more alluring when trying to sell naming rights and other sponsorship and funding
He might get away with not making CL next season but if he doesn't deliver it by the next he'll be going the same way as AVB, Sherwood, Harry, Ramos and Jol, never mind bringing through youngsters and all that other stuff. That was one od the much lauded reasons for AVB coming in too. Lets be quite clear Poch's remit is not to have a good season with a lesser PL club but to push us into regular CL qualification.
If that takes the addition of one or two marquee signings to achieve then that's what he has to demand and Levy has to provide
I believe well be waiting to see if we can get a bargain before we consider spending huge money though. For example. if a Draxler where to attract no interest from the elite, drops into 17-22m range, I think we might do that type of deal. I dont see us spending 30m on a player, let alone a couple. I think there's money there for Poch obviously, but 'the Bale summer' was a one off.
 

Reclamation Project

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I believe well be waiting to see if we can get a bargain before we consider spending huge money though. For example. if a Draxler where to attract no interest from the elite, drops into 17-22m range, I think we might do that type of deal. I dont see us spending 30m on a player, let alone a couple. I think there's money there for Poch obviously, but 'the Bale summer' was a one off.

The squad is bloated in certain areas, and even though we underperformed last season, a lot of the players have retained their value. I think we could easily raise enough money to be able to make a couple of big signings, and still be close to breaking even on our summer's business.
 

Barry Mead

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I believe well be waiting to see if we can get a bargain before we consider spending huge money though. For example. if a Draxler where to attract no interest from the elite, drops into 17-22m range, I think we might do that type of deal. I dont see us spending 30m on a player, let alone a couple. I think there's money there for Poch obviously, but 'the Bale summer' was a one off.

Well it's unlikely we'll be keeping all of Paulinho, Sandro, Capoue, Holtby and Dembele for two midfield roles especially with Bentalab knocking on the door and Carroll returning
My guess is that both Paulinho and Dembele could be off which could rake in around £30/35 mill
We already have the Defoe and Livermore money £14/15 mill and I'd be very surprised to see the likes of Naughton, Rose, Benny, Siggy and Eunice still around and those sales should rake in another say £25 mill
Then we have the likes of Townsend and Chadli if we do sign a LW/aml I imagine one will be off
So the transfer kitty should have around £75 mill, I imagine we'll spend it, clearly Levy is not the guy to wander off and cough up £30 mill on one player if he thinks he can do a deal or buy similar cheaper, but if there are needs and opportunities I can see at least one £25 mill plus player arriving
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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Well it's unlikely we'll be keeping all of Paulinho, Sandro, Capoue, Holtby and Dembele for two midfield roles especially with Bentalab knocking on the door and Carroll returning
My guess is that both Paulinho and Dembele could be off which could rake in around £30/35 mill
We already have the Defoe and Livermore money £14/15 mill and I'd be very surprised to see the likes of Naughton, Rose, Benny, Siggy and Eunice still around and those sales should rake in another say £25 mill
Then we have the likes of Townsend and Chadli if we do sign a LW/aml I imagine one will be off
So the transfer kitty should have around £75 mill, I imagine we'll spend it, clearly Levy is not the guy to wander off and cough up £30 mill on one player if he thinks he can do a deal or buy similar cheaper, but if there are needs and opportunities I can see at least one £25 mill plus player arriving
Obviously player sales will free up some cash, but until that happens.....
 

Good Doctor M

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Well it's unlikely we'll be keeping all of Paulinho, Sandro, Capoue, Holtby and Dembele for two midfield roles especially with Bentalab knocking on the door and Carroll returning
My guess is that both Paulinho and Dembele could be off which could rake in around £30/35 mill
We already have the Defoe and Livermore money £14/15 mill and I'd be very surprised to see the likes of Naughton, Rose, Benny, Siggy and Eunice still around and those sales should rake in another say £25 mill
Then we have the likes of Townsend and Chadli if we do sign a LW/aml I imagine one will be off
So the transfer kitty should have around £75 mill, I imagine we'll spend it, clearly Levy is not the guy to wander off and cough up £30 mill on one player if he thinks he can do a deal or buy similar cheaper, but if there are needs and opportunities I can see at least one £25 mill plus player arriving

I think Levy will try to free up some cash, but 30/35 mil for Dembele and Paulinho is pushing it a bit to be honest. Not even Levy is going to squeeze that amount of money out anyone for those two.

Combined sales, I'd be surprised we'd get more than 50 mil for all those players you listed.

Paulinho - £15m
Dembele - £10m
Sigs £7m
Benny £2m
Kaboul £4m (crocked)
Naughton £2m
Rose £4m
 

Blake Griffin

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pretty decent effort from us to still be within touching distance of the top 4/5 when you consider that ^
 

bigfrooj

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I disagree, first and foremost Poch has been brought in to get CL football on a regular basis.
He knows that's his bottom line, Levy knows that if he wants to fill a big new stadium he is going to need an attractive team playing at the top level and also he knows that a team playing CL is far more alluring when trying to sell naming rights and other sponsorship and funding
He might get away with not making CL next season but if he doesn't deliver it by the next he'll be going the same way as AVB, Sherwood, Harry, Ramos and Jol, never mind bringing through youngsters and all that other stuff. That was one od the much lauded reasons for AVB coming in too. Lets be quite clear Poch's remit is not to have a good season with a lesser PL club but to push us into regular CL qualification.
If that takes the addition of one or two marquee signings to achieve then that's what he has to demand and Levy has to provide
Disagree; think Pochettino is here to steady the ship, do everything the poster said and just generally get us through the next few years as the cost of the redevelopment starts to hurt. Doesn't mean we can't continue a regular turnover of players though but not at the scale we all want. Pull up the barricades boys it could get rough.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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I think Levy will try to free up some cash, but 30/35 mil for Dembele and Paulinho is pushing it a bit to be honest. Not even Levy is going to squeeze that amount of money out anyone for those two.

Combined sales, I'd be surprised we'd get more than 50 mil for all those players you listed.

Paulinho - £15m
Dembele - £10m
Sigs £7m
Benny £2m
Kaboul £4m (crocked)
Naughton £2m
Rose £4m
Plus its actually finding the buyers, it's not easy, hence why we had Jenas, Gomes and Bentley sitting in the reserves for 4 years.
 

WexfordTownSpur

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If life of a Tottenham supporter was so simple, that would be something, wouldn't it?
Just these 3 signings of:

Rodriguez - LB
Schaer - CB
Kono or Griez - LW/LWF

....would solve many of our issues, it seems.

At the end of the day, we don't even need to spend that kind of £. We could get quality players for a lesser amount.
Schaer shouldn't be that expensive, IMO.
Rodriguez and Griez are very much in demand, so the transfer fees would be enormous, but Kono should be available for 12-13 Million £.
So Kono and Schaer should (in theory at least) both be "no-brainer" type deals, AFAIAC.

Even with those two, and settling for Davies at LB, we would address significant issues defensively, and attack-wise.
Oh well, it's all hypothetical anyway. :)
I think your right. There are very good players around who's names don't make the English press everyday and won't cost a fortune. Unfortunately in a world cop year a lot if them have now been noticed and of course the prices have gone up!
I think your right, pooch was bought in to foster the great players we have and bring forward young talent from both the youth we have and scouting elsewhere.
As you say, the new stadium will make funds even tighter. But not all bad news, there are idiots out there who will pay 28mil for Paulino etc. So we could also sell and buy.
The only thing I really hate about spurs is we Always leave it to late and have an unsettled start. We should have our team ready for pre season.
 

Barry Mead

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Disagree; think Pochettino is here to steady the ship, do everything the poster said and just generally get us through the next few years as the cost of the redevelopment starts to hurt. Doesn't mean we can't continue a regular turnover of players though but not at the scale we all want. Pull up the barricades boys it could get rough.

We could have saved a lot of money on new managers if that was our aim, Levy wants CL because he knows that he will find it easier to sell naming rights, gain sponsorship and sell lucrative boxes
If Levy was not inclined to try for CL he wouldn't have spent so much last summer and instead put it towards stadium costs
 
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