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dagraham

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I don't have good vibes about signing Barkley. Reckon it would be another expensive mistake.

Would much rather we go for Mahrez.
 

Clark28

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I don't have good vibes about signing Barkley. Reckon it would be another expensive mistake.

Would much rather we go for Mahrez.
We'd be getting him under cost price with him entering the last year of his deal.

If he is no good then we can sell him with 3-4 years left on his deal and turn a profit.

That's why I think we'd be interested, there is very little risk in signing him.
 

dagraham

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We'd be getting him under cost price with him entering the last year of his deal.

If he is no good then we can sell him with 3-4 years left on his deal and turn a profit.

That's why I think we'd be interested, there is very little risk in signing him.

Financially maybe, but the football risk is we miss out on a better player who can help us win trophies.
 

Shadydan

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Barkley could. I'm just saying that buying a player just because he has one year left on his contract might be cheaper but it's not always the right choice.

Most probably gonna be the right choice if the coaching sees fit.
 

talkshowhost86

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A lot of what we do with our attacking midfielders depends on Lamela's fitness I reckon.

If Lamela is going to be a part of our squad next year, then I think perhaps we could do with a quick and direct option in the attacking midfield market (someone like Zaha) but we wouldn't then need Barkley.

If we cannot rely on Lamela (fitness wise or mentality wise) then there's a couple of spots available to give competition to Son, Alli and Eriksen, and Barkley could make a decent option there.

He's clearly a good player, and people need to stop thinking about just the first XI and start thinking about the wider squad.
 

HildoSpur

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He would be a great addition to the squad and there is always the chance that he could turn into a really superb player under Poch's guidance.
 

Dennism

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Tends to lose the ball too frequently when playing for Everton. If we could change that he would be a good signing.
 

dagraham

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Most probably gonna be the right choice if the coaching sees fit.

Well I hope that's the case and we're not just going for the cheaper option.

Obviously we have a stadium to pay for, but we will have record revenue with the current crazy TV deal and our second place finish which is worth a lot of dough. Plus we'll have the Bentaleb money and possibly Sissoko and a very large fee for Walker if he ends up leaving ( which seems more likely than not as it stands).

I'm probably just biased as I think Barkley is a bit overrated, even though we do need someone to run at defences which he has shown in the past he is capable of. He seems to lack composure though from what I've seen of him.
 

Shadydan

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Well I hope that's the case and we're not just going for the cheaper option.

Obviously we have a stadium to pay for, but we will have record revenue with the current crazy TV deal and our second place finish which is worth a lot of dough. Plus we'll have the Bentaleb money and possibly Sissoko and a very large fee for Walker if he ends up leaving ( which seems more likely than not as it stands).

I'm probably just biased as I think Barkley is a bit overrated, even though we do need someone to run at defences which he has shown in the past he is capable of. He seems to lack composure though from what I've seen of him.

It's always a risk buying a player, we went with an expensive option last season and look where it got us. What's important is that we get the right player who fits the profile of the club, one that we can afford...not just transfer fee wise but wages as well...and let the rest take care of itself.
 

NickHSpurs

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Let's not get ahead of ourselves by dismissing him, he ticks a lot of boxes.

Young, English, Prem experience and only a year left on his contract so wouldn't cost too much.

I would happily take him, will be a massive improvement to our squad when you consider the money we've spent on players like N'Koudou and Njie who have produced nothing for us.

I also think he's a player Poch could get the best out of and if he didn't then there's zero financial risk as somebody else would take him.
 

yankspurs

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Let's not get ahead of ourselves by dismissing him, he ticks a lot of boxes.

Young, English, Prem experience and only a year left on his contract so wouldn't cost too much.

I would happily take him, will be a massive improvement to our squad when you consider the money we've spent on players like N'Koudou and Njie who have produced nothing for us.

I also think he's a player Poch could get the best out of and if he didn't then there's zero financial risk as somebody else would take him.
If Barkley wasnt English, you know which PL club he'd probably go to? West Ham(and thats even if a PL club would have wanted him. Coincidentally, that could very well be where he ends up anyway). He is quite simply not good enough and likely wont ever be. His age has nothing to do with it. He has the talent to be world class but he doesnt have the brains to be anywhere close to that. His talent is the only think keeping him at Everton. They are too far ahead of his level otherwise. He won't be a first XI player there next season. He would not even be a regular bench player next season if everyone is fit. And we shouldnt be signing someone like that for the amount of money Barkley would cost. You dont improve a team by signing someone who wouldnt have an impact in the team if everyone was fit.
 

tiger666

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If Barkley wasnt English, you know which PL club he'd probably go to? West Ham(and thats even if a PL club would have wanted him. Coincidentally, that could very well be where he ends up anyway). He is quite simply not good enough and likely wont ever be. His age has nothing to do with it. He has the talent to be world class but he doesnt have the brains to be anywhere close to that. His talent is the only think keeping him at Everton. They are too far ahead of his level otherwise. He won't be a first XI player there next season. He would not even be a regular bench player next season if everyone is fit. And we shouldnt be signing someone like that for the amount of money Barkley would cost. You dont improve a team by signing someone who wouldnt have an impact in the team if everyone was fit.

I keep hearing how thick he is. 4 players created more chances than him last season. He can't be lacking that much footballing intelligence.
 
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shelfmonkey

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No thanks, will be gutted if we waste a fortune on him, so average.

Probably because of average coaching.
Kane looked less than average when I first saw him play, look where he is now.
 

worcestersauce

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I don't think Kane was ever average but I agree average coaching may well be relevant with Barkley, someone posted earlier that he has stood still, maybe he feels that too and that is why he wants to move.
I do think he suffers for his early hype, he is a bloody good player but because of his early hype people expected him to be a world beater and now a lot of people can't be objective when judging him.
 

Snarfalicious

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I've seen some people point to the idea of him being converted to more of a CM eventually. If the point to sign him was to convert him to more of a CM, I'd rather we just try that experiment with Onomah. He looked fantastic today in a deeper role. Or, just go after Kovacic or Naby Keita who is likely going to be cheaper or similar price to Barkley and I feel are better options.
 

Shadydan

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I keep hearing how thick he is. 4 players created more chances than him last season. He can't be lacking that much footballing intelligence.

Don't know why people always think that real life intelligence always equates to football intelligence, such a strange comparison.
 
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