Rule Changes Discussion

[Marty]

Ugh, that natural silhouette business won't fix anything. It'll just add to the existing confusion about the handball rule.

I expected better from IFAB, but I don't know why. Seems like every time they announce something it just creates more confusion.

 

[werty]

No rebounding on penalties seems dumb.

 

[Thewobbler]

No rebounding on penalties seems dumb.

It does. So if a GK saves it or it hits the post and comes back in to play what do they give, a free kick to the opposition?

 

[Yid-ol]

It does. So if a GK saves it or it hits the post and comes back in to play what do they give, a free kick to the opposition?

Good old fashion drop call.... Fully contested, not this one man in to kick it crap!!

But yeah it's a shit idea and don't think it will work.

 

[bubble07]

Surely they need to look at when a keeper takes a goal kick and passes to a team mate in who is inside the box.

Rather then retake it which is great if the offending team is timewasting the opposition should have in indirect freekick from where the player who received the ball stood

 

[Deggsy56]

All substitutions should be made and completed with no more than 10/5 mins (can't decide) remaining of normal time. Thereby ending timewasting in stoppage time to get a result!!

 

[chrissivad]

All substitutions should be made and completed with no more than 10/5 mins (can't decide) remaining of normal time. Thereby ending timewasting in stoppage time to get a result!!

And what happens if someone does get injured? They have to play on or down a man?

 

[SE Spurs]

I like the new, Subs going off at the nearest touchline rule. Players taking forever to get off the pitch, drives me mad. Not sure about the defensive handball though. That new rule has totally been brought in because of VAR imo.
The rest are fine, until they effect us negatively. At which point they'll be shit new rules, and suck.

 

[TheBlueRooster]

It does. So if a GK saves it or it hits the post and comes back in to play what do they give, a free kick to the opposition?

No it becomes a goal kick. Stupid change, leave things alone.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Are they saying that if the ball here was to hit the players arm that would be a handball/penalty? The player's trying to block the cross with his foot.

Yes - hand ball. Defender has made himself bigger - in terms of blocking the attacker from getting the ball towards the goal.

 

[nailsy]

Yes - hand ball. Defender has made himself bigger - in terms of blocking the attacker from getting the ball towards the goal.

I can see there being a lot of penalties next season then. And it doesn't seem right to me. When you run you pump your arms, when you stretch you put your arms out for balance. You don't do either to deliberately try and block the ball with your arms.

 

['O Zio]

Not sure about this natural silhouette business. Arms by the side not being a penalty is fine, but does this mean that every time a player has his hands away from his body and the ball hits an arm it will be a penalty? How's a player meant to run and block a cross with his hands by his side?

Agree. It's pointless having these massively subjective wishy-washy rules because it's impossible to have consistency like that. IF you ask 100 people what a natural silhouette is you'll get 100 different answers so that's not a suitable rule. When will they learn?

 

['O Zio]

I can see there being a lot of penalties next season then. And it doesn't seem right to me. When you run you pump your arms, when you stretch you put your arms out for balance. You don't do either to deliberately try and block the ball with your arms.

The same thing will happen with this as what happened with the clamping down on pushing/holding in the box on corners/free kicks. One ref will give a penalty for it and then everyone will go berserk and Alan Shearer will call it ridiculous, then no refs will enforce the new rule because it's not worth all the agro

 

[yankspurs]

“If ot aint broke, break it” - IFAB

 

[ardiles]

I like the new, Subs going off at the nearest touchline rule. Players taking forever to get off the pitch, drives me mad. Not sure about the defensive handball though. That new rule has totally been brought in because of VAR imo.
The rest are fine, until they effect us negatively. At which point they'll be shit new rules, and suck.

This is what the new rule states -

“3. Substituted players can leave the field anywhere

When a player is withdrawn they will no longer have to leave the field at the halfway line and will instead be permitted to leave the pitch at the nearest point.”

It seems that they don’t really have to leave at the nearest point but have the option to do so only. So it won’t really stop them from wasting time by still exiting the field from the furthest end.

 

[Marty]

This is what the new rule states -

“3. Substituted players can leave the field anywhere

When a player is withdrawn they will no longer have to leave the field at the halfway line and will instead be permitted to leave the pitch at the nearest point.”

It seems that they don’t really have to leave at the nearest point but have the option to do so only. So it won’t really stop them from wasting time by still exiting the field from the furthest end.

Imagine, oh I don't know, a River player going off at the far touchline away at Boca, and having to walk around half the pitch just to get to the subs bench.

There'd be mayhem, and not in a good way.

 

[SE Spurs]

This is what the new rule states -

“3. Substituted players can leave the field anywhere

When a player is withdrawn they will no longer have to leave the field at the halfway line and will instead be permitted to leave the pitch at the nearest point.”

It seems that they don’t really have to leave at the nearest point but have the option to do so only. So it won’t really stop them from wasting time by still exiting the field from the furthest end.

I heard a referee yesterday making the point, that the new rule was specifically there to stop the players time wasting. But you're right, the way it reads, does seem this isn't necessarily the case. If so, its a bloody pointless new rule.

 

[TheBlueRooster]

This is what the new rule states -

“3. Substituted players can leave the field anywhere

When a player is withdrawn they will no longer have to leave the field at the halfway line and will instead be permitted to leave the pitch at the nearest point.”

It seems that they don’t really have to leave at the nearest point but have the option to do so only. So it won’t really stop them from wasting time by still exiting the field from the furthest end.

I think it means that the referee has the permission to allow a player to leave the field where as before unless it was an injury the player had to leave at the halfway line.

I haven't seen if the "No attacking players in the defensive wall" has been implemented.

 

[cwy21]

I think it means that the referee has the permission to allow a player to leave the field where as before unless it was an injury the player had to leave at the halfway line.

This is incorrect. The law has always allowed a sub to leave the field at any boundary. The new law MANDATES they leave the field at the nearest boundary.

 

[FibreOpticJesus]

Good old fashion drop call.... Fully contested, not this one man in to kick it crap!!

But yeah it's a shit idea and don't think it will work.

What happens if the goalkeeper pushes it past the post? A goal kick? Of all the rules that need changing this is not one of them.

On another matter. I am not sure that VAR is going to work for offside in the way they expect. Last night there was a clear offside but the lino never put his flag up as the attacking player lost the ball. By playing on our defence and was put under pressure by their press and we conceded possession. I bet if they had scored it would have been given as play had carried on. But plainly wrong.