Saido Berahino

[stewartd]

Kane played with him for the under 21s. Maybe Poch asked Kane if he had a choice of an up front partner who would he chose. And maybe Kane said Berahino . Not impossible is it?

 

[Lou3000]

If N'Jie hadn't been given incorrectly offside against West Brom, isn't that the type of run/play we'd be wasting 20m on Berahino to get ?

I haven't seen N'Jie finish anything yet. If We're spending 20m to get N'Jie but with the ability to maintain possession and finish, then I'm happy about that.

 

[panoma]

No - it's because Berahino can't play as a lone forward.

He either plays as a WF or in a 4-4-2.

It's one of the reasons he's not playing much under Pullis - because Pullis only plays 1 up - and Berahino can't do the Rondon role and isn't their best option at LWF.

He played a lone forward for West Brom many times last season, with sessegnon behind him. He also played a lone striker for England u21 many times with the likes of Zaha or Redmond or several others behind him.

Stop just make up stuff :/

I do agree that Pulis seem to favour the target man approach though, so Berahino don't get much of a look in.

 

[Trix]

He played a lone forward for West Brom many times last season, with sessegnon behind him. He also played a lone striker for England u21 many times with the likes of Zaha or Redmond or several others behind him.

Stop just make up stuff :/

I do agree that Pulis seem to favour the target man approach though, so Berahino don't get much of a look in.

I also think Pulis is playing a team partly with the future in mind, and he knows that is without SB.

 

[spurs9]

No - it's because Berahino can't play as a lone forward.

He either plays as a WF or in a 4-4-2.

It's one of the reasons he's not playing much under Pullis - because Pullis only plays 1 up - and Berahino can't do the Rondon role and isn't their best option at LWF.

Last season, Berahino played 13 games as a lone striker and scored 8 goals in those games.

 

[Shadydan]

Last season, Berahino played 13 games as a lone striker and scored 8 goals in those games.

Thank you

I don't know where people get this rubbish from about him being dreadful playing as a lone striker.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Thank you

I don't know where people get this rubbish from about him being dreadful playing as a lone striker.

Scoring goals and being good as a lone striker don't always go hand-in-hand. Swapping Berahino in for Kane would massively change how we play when in possession.

 

[Shadydan]

Scoring goals and being good as a lone striker don't always go hand-in-hand. Swapping Berahino in for Kane would massively change how we play when in possession.

Surely the point is that he or a player like him will add an extra dimension to our attack depending on who we play.

 

[Trix]

Scoring goals and being good as a lone striker don't always go hand-in-hand. Swapping Berahino in for Kane would massively change how we play when in possession.

Of course, but when we are failing to impose ourselves against certain teams tactics this could very well be just what we need. Swapping a player "like for like" is great when things are working. At other times a change in direction could be very useful aswell.

 

[rocklink]

Saido berahino is the one we need and the one it needs right now

 

[Nigel Spinal]

Surely the point is that he or a player like him will add an extra dimension to our attack depending on who we play.

Indeed. Berahino likes running onto the ball from wide positions. Whereas Kane can play with his back to goal and hold/link up play. Basically Berahino is an on-the-break player, whereas Kane is a forward for a possession side

Berahino playing CF for us would look like Njie did against Chelsea. I rate Njie, but like Berahino, he hurts teams on the break, not when they sit deep (like 85% of teams do against us).

 

[worcestersauce]

Indeed. Berahino likes running onto the ball from wide positions. Whereas Kane can play with his back to goal and hold/link up play. Basically Berahino is an on-the-break player, whereas Kane is a forward for a possession side

Berahino playing CF for us would look like Njie did against Chelsea. I rate Njie, but like Berahino, he hurts teams on the break, not when they sit deep (like 85% of teams do against us).

So you're saying we need him to play alongside Kane are you? to run in from wide onto the reverse pass from Harry Kane, sounds like a reasonable argument.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

Of course, but when we are failing to impose ourselves against certain teams tactics this could very well be just what we need. Swapping a player "like for like" is great when things are working. At other times a change in direction could be very useful aswell.

Valid point, but this makes him a useful 'plan B', rather than an ideal backup if Kane gets injured.

 

[Neon_Knight_]

See my reply to Trix.

 

[Lilbaz]

Indeed. Berahino likes running onto the ball from wide positions. Whereas Kane can play with his back to goal and hold/link up play. Basically Berahino is an on-the-break player, whereas Kane is a forward for a possession side

Berahino playing CF for us would look like Njie did against Chelsea. I rate Njie, but like Berahino, he hurts teams on the break, not when they sit deep (like 85% of teams do against us).

So we use kane against 85% of the teams?

 

[Trix]

Valid point, but this makes him a useful 'plan B', rather than an ideal backup if Kane gets injured.

How many strikers do you think we could keep happy playing one up top though? The fact he can play multiple positions, is what makes him so attractive.

Considering how many Fans Poch has already proved wrong regarding various players (how good they are/where they should play), I think if he sees something in SB, then it would very much be worth pursuing it. The only issue I have with this deal is can it be done.

 

[Shadydan]

Indeed. Berahino likes running onto the ball from wide positions. Whereas Kane can play with his back to goal and hold/link up play. Basically Berahino is an on-the-break player, whereas Kane is a forward for a possession side

Berahino playing CF for us would look like Njie did against Chelsea. I rate Njie, but like Berahino, he hurts teams on the break, not when they sit deep (like 85% of teams do against us).

His hold up play is not as good as Kane's hold up play but that doesn't mean he cannot play that role besides I would like to think that he can play behind or alongside Kane if need be.

I think this teams sitting deep thkng is often over stated and exaggerated, case in point the 85℅ you have referenced when in reality it"s nothing like that. Teams play with low blocks when they are defending yes, mainly the lower sides who commit less men forward but they have to come forward when they have the ball and when they come forward they leave space in behind and a player like Berahino can utilise his pace on the counter. And what's more we are winning the ball higher up the pitch now which if we had a player who anticipates the counter and is able to pull away from defenders we would have seen more direct attacks, he fits that bill.

There are only a handful of teams who park the bus and play for a point like Chelsea did last week but the majority of our matches there is space to be countered into, we just don't use the ball properly or make the best moves off the ball.

 

[Trix]

I'd also ask how many top Prem teams have like for like back up strikers?

 

[mpickard2087]

As I've said before, I've heard the view of one player and that's that he's had a bad attitude since even before he broke into the first team at WBA and rubbed people up the wrong way. If Poch wants him then I guess you have to back him, but I'm concerned based on the couple of bits of info/opinion I've heard about him.

I'd also not get it if he's being brought in as a wide striker, as some people seem to be hypothesising. If that was the case then I'd have to question exactly why we had signed N'Jie as well and that something has gone wrong. For me we already have three 'wide striker' hybrid types in Son, N'Jie and Chadli.

 

[glospur]

I'd also ask how many top Prem teams have like for like back up strikers?

This. Everyone complains about the lack of a plan b and then complains that a striker we might sign isn't the same as the striker that plays in our plan A.